Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

redmgar · 16-09-2020 03:23PM

I think there were some left from yesterdays numbers?

Sam Russell · 16-09-2020 03:24PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Our man never came back down the mountain? :eek:

That can happen when you social distance a bit too far.

Benimar · 16-09-2020 03:24PM

redmgar wrote: »

I think there were some left from yesterdays numbers?

Potentially as many as 70

polesheep · 16-09-2020 03:24PM

Boggles wrote: »

Well to an extent, it is creeping back into care homes and reaching the vulnerable.

This will increase as the instances of the virus increase in the community.

Older people do not live a vacuum no more than younger people do.

A certain level of infection among older people will be acceptable as we move on.

podgeandrodge · 16-09-2020 03:24PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Our man never came back down the mountain? :eek:

wouldn't be surprised if they realised he was giving out Govt official comms before they had signed off on them and got disciplined!

I for one will be glad not to read about 'beers' everyday, like hearing the same bad joke over and over again.

GooglePlus · 16-09-2020 03:25PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Our man never came back down the mountain? :eek:

The oracle retreats to the mountains 4 times a year to find his zen and take Ayahuasca.

ACitizenErased · 16-09-2020 03:26PM

272 positive swabs today from 12,241 tests

ACitizenErased · 16-09-2020 03:26PM

As of today we have officially crossed 1 million tests

Non solum non ambulabit · 16-09-2020 03:26PM

Benimar wrote: »

Potentially as many as 70

Could be pushing 300 today so.

Martina1991 · 16-09-2020 03:27PM

Benimar wrote: »

272 positives on 12,241 tests - positivity rate of 2.22%

Just passed 1,000,000 tests completed as well.

s1ippy · 16-09-2020 03:30PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Genuine question, what would you do to stop it. Another lockdown, its not viable and you won't get people to buy into it so what would you do.

I think many people in Dublin would buy in to tighter restrictions on travel and more impetus to work from home than is currently required.

If the rest of the country starts to catch up, then I'm sure the reasonably minded public there would also restrict their movements.

Working from home wherever possible needs to be facilitated and encouraged.

As for pubs, bring in the same level of stricture required for gastropubs and keep good records. Personally I won't be going to them, but if people can adhere to the rules and they turn out not to be a big source of spread (not just that we're not tracing enough) then leave them open.

The above all has minimal economic impact, but people are able to make the choices they need to in order to avoid getting this.

Oh and properly facilitate children who can't attend school for various reasons so that parents of at risk families can actually keep them out. That would reduce class sizes. Would have been helpful a month ago to have that sorted but we're throwing out ideas and that would have been a great one.

smellyoldboot · 16-09-2020 03:30PM

300+ with 175+ of those in Dublin.

16-09-2020 03:32PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

Just passed 1,000,000 tests completed as well.

How many of them did your lab see Martina.

Fair play to all involved by the way. A lot of criticism is levelled at testing capacity, but i don't think many appreciate the effort required to put something like this in place. From procurement of supplies, manning the test centre, co-ordination of samples, analysts, reviewers, quality control, maintenance of equipment etc. etc. etc.

The Nal · 16-09-2020 03:32PM

smellyoldboot wrote: »

300+ with 175+ of those in Dublin.

Boggles · 16-09-2020 03:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

For example, in the initial reopening, hardware stores were permitted to re-open, but homeware stores were not. This had the situation where some large hardware/ homeware stores were required to close off some of their floor space, unnecessarily restricting space in a large, relatively safe building, and creating artificial bottle necks in the stores. In principal, hardware - essential, homeware not, fine, but it had practical, potentially counter productive consequences for those managing these restrictions on the ground that would be immediately apparent to the experts in that area.

I remember the press conference well, 15 questions about the difference homeware and hardware. :rolleyes:

I was in several hardware stores the week they were open, no where did I see any section closed off.

I was in no homeware stores because these were all closed.

Where did all this actually happen?

spookwoman · 16-09-2020 03:34PM

Maybe someone can make some sense from these numbers on how they make up the confirmed numbers
Date|Tested Positive|Briefing Positive
10/09/2020|122|196
11/9/2020|227|211
12/9/2020|250|159
13/09/2020|-|255
14/09/2020|476|208
15/09/2020|310|357
16/09/2020|272|

MerlinSouthDub · 16-09-2020 03:34PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

272 positive swabs today from 12,241 tests

Well, it's stabilizing a bit maybe?

Goldengirl · 16-09-2020 03:34PM

marno21 wrote: »

This isn’t throwing NPHET under the bus. It’s him saying that the Government will now take a balanced approach to handling the virus with the public health advice being weighted against economic and sociological considerations.

Something I and others have been arguing in favour of on this forum for months. Locking the country down until the vaccine arrives is a widely held view among public health circles. It fails to take into account the economic and sociological destruction it would cause. Public health advice needs to be reprofiled for a world with economic and social constraints. It’s the only way through this unfortunate mess.

Yes.

What you are saying is the government need to consider how many deaths the public will accept, and tailor their plans accordingly.

This was said back in April by the anonymous medical consultant on boards .
A lot were shocked , but looks like that is what is going to be facing us now in the next few months .

Ll31 · 16-09-2020 03:34PM

is_that_so wrote: »

TCD are also setting up their own test centre.

That seems positive -hope everyone gets some in person on campus experience. Online is in general a hugely inferior experience for lots of reasons

ninebeanrows · 16-09-2020 03:35PM

That is a lot of tests.

Id love to see the test per population across the counties.

Id say there is much more tests per head of population in Dublin as compared to other counties.

Test more find more.

I'd be suspect of any differential between the counties until I see those figures.

Boggles · 16-09-2020 03:36PM

polesheep wrote: »

A certain level of infection among older people will be acceptable as we move on.

What's the level?

Fitty?

stephenjmcd · 16-09-2020 03:36PM

Ll31 wrote: »

I think therell be hardly anyone on campus- certainly some of tcd timetables seem to be all online this semester for some years..

My brother in DIT got his timetable, 1 in person day in the college every 3 weeks. The rest online

16-09-2020 03:37PM

Benimar wrote: »

272 positives on 12,241 tests - positivity rate of 2.22%

Fair to say just about everything is trending in the wrong direction, quite quickly at this point.

MerlinSouthDub · 16-09-2020 03:37PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes.
What you are saying is the government need to consider how many deaths the public will accept, and tailor their plans accordingly.

This was said back in April by the anonymous medical consultant on boards .
A lot were shocked , but looks like that is what is going to be facing us now in the next few months .

That is the way it's going, not just here but everywhere in Europe really. I think governments are stumbling along in the hope that a vaccine/treatment will come along in the next few months.

hmmm · 16-09-2020 03:44PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes.
What you are saying is the government need to consider how many deaths the public will accept, and tailor their plans accordingly.

This was said back in April by the anonymous medical consultant on boards .
A lot were shocked , but looks like that is what is going to be facing us now in the next few months .

Wasn't this always the case once we didn't go for a zero-Covid approach? It was about managing infection without letting the hospitals become overwhelmed (not "herd immunity", long-term flattening of the curve). It's the difference between going down a steep hill by tapping the brakes and not braking at all.

We know from experience in other countries that we can keep the fatality rate low if hospitals have space and people get good care. But if we run out of hospital beds then the fatality rate will increase (this was the original problem back in Wuhan).

Goldengirl · 16-09-2020 03:44PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Ronan is out of the loop now, they have him making the teas and coffees.

Stephen Donnelly's nanny

GooglePlus · 16-09-2020 03:45PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Maybe someone can make some sense from these numbers on how they make up the confirmed numbers
Date|Tested Positive|Briefing Positive
10/09/2020|122|196
11/9/2020|227|211
12/9/2020|250|159
13/09/2020|-|255
14/09/2020|476|208
15/09/2020|310|357
16/09/2020|272|

+271 in the difference on positive swabs but as someone mentioned before, positive swabs include retests in hospital right?

Hard to know without knowing unique cases.

polesheep · 16-09-2020 03:45PM

Boggles wrote: »

What's the level?

Fitty?

It won't be static. You can scream and bang your fists off the floor if you like, but the reality is that the world is moving on again. With or without a vaccine.

Benimar · 16-09-2020 03:46PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Maybe someone can make some sense from these numbers on how they make up the confirmed numbers
Date|Tested Positive|Briefing Positive
10/09/2020|122|196
11/9/2020|227|211
12/9/2020|250|159
13/09/2020|-|255
14/09/2020|476|208
15/09/2020|310|357
16/09/2020|272|

I have no idea why they vary by day, but I'm pretty sure the totals were the same once last Thursdays (10th) figures were announced. There was a variance of 73 since then (Tested Positive higher) up to yesterday.

polesheep · 16-09-2020 03:46PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

That is the way it's going, not just here but everywhere in Europe really. I think governments are stumbling along in the hope that a vaccine/treatment will come along in the next few months.

The herd moves on. Always.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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