Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 11:13PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

People need to start voting for people on their abilities etc, the amount of tds that are only elected because of party or sex is shocking, what happened to voting for the best candidate, some of the tds elected the Last couple of elections are shocking, have people any shame voting for people who are not obviously not capable of the job.

I never vote on the basis of sex or parties , do you ?? ðŸ˜²

stockshares · 15-09-2020 11:17PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Except three hours later he was still coughing and either asked or was told by the CMO to get tested.

Helen McEntee said on Radio with Boucher Hayes that he was told to get tested.

expectationlost · 15-09-2020 11:18PM

s1ippy wrote: »

I just discovered this clip from the beginning of the pandemic when Trump said he was banning travel to and from Europe effective immediately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkT_os6-OD0

I might even do a foreign exchange with the yanks if their state has a anybody left in it to welcome me.

does Bahola? not have a much lower incidence too?

moonage · 15-09-2020 11:22PM

Professor Philip Nolan says:

We are doing close to 12,000 test per day now, expertly targeted by general practitioners and public health, with 2% testing positive, so we are detecting a much higher proportion of cases, many of which are mild or asymptomatic.

Instead of panicking about the ever-increasing number of "cases", we should be celebrating them. They are demonstrating, very clearly, that COVID is far, far, less deadly than was feared.

MOR316 · 15-09-2020 11:23PM

Probably was already asked a few pages back and apologies if it was.

But, I had plans to visit a friend in Dublin on Friday and have some dinner and a few beers. Does this mean now I can't go into the city?
I'm a bit lost with what's been said tbh

ACitizenErased · 15-09-2020 11:24PM

majcos wrote: »

7 discharges and 12 admissions on Covid hub. 2 ICU admissions in last 24 hours. Is that not more than seen in recent days/weeks? I don’t look at it every day but more than I have seen in while.

There was an increase of 1 in hospital today. The hub is not as up to date as the update.

JP Liz V1 · 15-09-2020 11:25PM

stockshares wrote: »

Helen McEntee said on Radio with Boucher Hayes that he was told to get tested.

So if the CMO Dr. Glynn didn't tell him, he would not have

JP Liz V1 · 15-09-2020 11:26PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Probably was already asked a few pages back and apologies if it was.

But, I had plans to visit a friend in Dublin on Friday and have some dinner and a few beers. Does this mean now I can't go into the city?
I'm a bit lost with what's been said tbh

Are you coming in from Dublin county to Dublin city?

Arghus · 15-09-2020 11:26PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

...what has Tony Maloney got to do with it ?

Tony Baloney.

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 11:27PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

The clip I heard on Morning Ireland anyway, he certainly wasn’t coughing - clearing his throat I’d have called it. Not unusual for someone to have to do that early in the morning.

I didn’t see the briefing today, but if he was coughing, it seems he sought advice straight afterwards. It’s quite possible if it was “a cough”, it only came on him then, and as soon it was over he consulted with the CMO.

The hysteria around this, and calling for him to resign, is ridiculous.

There is no hysteria .
If he was in work while unwell and coughing , he , at the very least as a member of government , should have been staying at home , isolating and ringing his GP to see if he needed a test , never mind as Minister for HEALTH .
Do you not see the hypocrisy in this, today of all days ?

MOR316 · 15-09-2020 11:28PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Are you coming in from Dublin county to Dublin city?

Nope, I'm coming from a county just outside of Dublin

majcos · 15-09-2020 11:30PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

The hub numbers for discharges/admissions are updated in the morning. The daily operations report is as at 8 pm this evening so is more up to date.

Daily operations report doesn’t give number of admissions and discharges but a headcount at particular time points.

For example, if operations report says 50 at 8am and 50 at 2pm this doesn’t tell you how many are the same 50. Could look through counts of individual hospitals and add it up but even this would not tell you if patient counted at 8am is the same patient being counted at 2pm. So it’s hard to discern movement from operations report. Hub gives a specific count of admissions and discharges as well as current numbers so can see movement of patients in and out of hospitals.

moonage · 15-09-2020 11:30PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

Coughgate

Maybe they could make it into a film like they did for the Who Wants To Be A Millionaire cough scandal.

—starring Michael Sheen as Stephen Donnelly.

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 11:33PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Probably was already asked a few pages back and apologies if it was.

But, I had plans to visit a friend in Dublin on Friday and have some dinner and a few beers. Does this mean now I can't go into the city?
I'm a bit lost with what's been said tbh

Yeah you can still go into the city. No issues with going for dinner and a few beers

majcos · 15-09-2020 11:35PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There was an increase of 1 in hospital today. The hub is not as up to date as the update.

I understand movement in hospital context to mean the number of admissions and the number of discharges from a hospital - the number of patients moving in and out of hospitals within a specific time period - rather than the absolute numbers in hospital.

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 11:36PM

Arghus wrote: »

Tony Baloney.

Ahh I thought you were referring to someone else .

15-09-2020 11:36PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

The poor sign language people.

Just there giving the wanker sign for the duration of a conference

DebDynamite · 15-09-2020 11:38PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

There is no hysteria .
If he was in work while unwell and coughing , he , at the very least as a member of government , should have been staying at home , isolating and ringing his GP to see if he needed a test , never mind as Minister for HEALTH .
Do you not see the hypocrisy in this, today of all days ?

We don’t know if he was at work while unwell. We have no proof that he was feeling unwell in the morning, because if the clip on Morning Ireland is anything to go by, he was not coughing. As I said, I didn’t see the briefing, but perhaps the coughing only came upon him then, and straight afterwards he consulted with the CMO who advised him to get tested.

MOR316 · 15-09-2020 11:38PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah you can still go into the city. No issues with going for dinner and a few beers

Sound thanks.

Just all very confusing! I like going into the city and going out to Killiney or Bray for lunch and then back into the City for some beers and a catch up. So, I'm sat here going, does this mean I can't go into Dublin and if I do, can I leave?

And what's happening on Thursday with NPHET?

For clarity, I live outside of County Dublin

s1ippy · 15-09-2020 11:38PM

ForestFire wrote: »

Having a "cough" , for Covid, means having a persistant cough.

Coughing a few times during interviews, for a public speaker, does not mean he has a "cough" per say...

There are many reasons why you might cough in isolated instances....

Dry throat, especially as a speaker it's a known fact, thats why water is always on hand, even for the likes of course trainers, first think is to have your water.

Drink, food irritation, even from water above...
Ashmatic cough
Alergic reaction

Also, when does an odd cough become a real cough, its not very clear...

For me this is nothing like golfgate, i.e premeditation golf event, with dinner and speaches, prizes, with attendees from the 4 corners of Ireland, abroad, and Big Phils amazing adventure....

When he felt unwell, he asked for advice and sought help...at what precise time he felt unwell, to the minute or even the hour would be difficult for anyone to say, maybe even him..

Even dispite all of the above, if the test did come back positive, it would not look good, but that would probably be an overreaction, even on my part I would imagine.... Due the the whole cluster f- of the day and the past events

Leo said a couple of interesting things in relation to this during the interview on Prime Time. Out of an "abundance" of caution, the Dáil was suspended. He also claimed that they were all social distancing in Dublin Castle. The worst was that Stephen Donnelly went to his GP, then he said "a perfectly appropriate thing to do" or something, but you're not supposed to do that if you have covid, you're supposed to ring them for a test appointment.

Oh and that they're not required to self isolate because they're not considered close contacts anymore but surely Donnelly has to until he's had a second test to confirm negative and hasn't had symptoms for 48 hours?

The most striking thing about these statements from government is the contrast with their approach to schools, given the seriousness with which they regard the threat of covid when it affects them. The "of course, we did x" attitude implies the public shouldn't do it but it's obviously what the government have to do, because they warrant so much more protection from this.

Sorry if that post was somewhat incoherent, hope you got the gist of it, I'm wrecked out of my head exhausted.

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 11:41PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Sound thanks.

Just all very confusing! I like going into the city and going out to Killiney or Bray for lunch and then back into the City for some beers and a catch up. So, I'm sat here going, does this mean I can't go into Dublin and if I do, can I leave?

And what's happening on Thursday with NPHET?

Well firstly anyway until next Monday you'll have to have the €9 meal even out in Bray, after Monday you could go for beers in Bray without the meal but not in Dublin.

Yeah there's no travel restrictions in at the moment anyway.

Thursday is the weekly NPHET meeting

JP Liz V1 · 15-09-2020 11:43PM

stockshares wrote: »

Helen McEntee said on Radio with Boucher Hayes that he was told to get tested.

John O.Groats wrote: »

Why do you think that?

It was late afternoon when news of it broke

Man Vs ManUre · 15-09-2020 11:43PM

I took great offence to Leo saying about how September is a time when Dublin shows the rest of the country how brilliant they are. They have only been successful in football during past 10 years, and they have never really been successful in hurling. And Kerry will easily beat them in the football for the next 10 years anyway.

MOR316 · 15-09-2020 11:44PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Well firstly anyway until next Monday you'll have to have the €9 meal even out in Bray, after Monday you could go for beers in Bray without the meal but not in Dublin.

Yeah there's no travel restrictions in at the moment anyway.

Thursday is the weekly NPHET meeting

I can get Friday off work and I hate going anywhere on Mondays

Grand, I'll be coming in from a county north of Dublin so, just wasn't sure of the situation. Thanks

PS. Will be going to Bray the following weekend for substantial pints

JP Liz V1 · 15-09-2020 11:45PM

Has SD made any statement himself yet?

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 11:47PM

MOR316 wrote: »

I can get Friday off work and I hate going anywhere on Mondays

Grand, I'll be coming in from a county north of Dublin so, just wasn't sure of the situation. Thanks

PS. Will be going to Bray the following weekend for substantial pints

Haha enjoy both days out

Happydays2020 · 15-09-2020 11:52PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

There is no hysteria .
If he was in work while unwell and coughing , he , at the very least as a member of government , should have been staying at home , isolating and ringing his GP to see if he needed a test , never mind as Minister for HEALTH .
Do you not see the hypocrisy in this, today of all days ?

You are completely right. Six months Into this and he does not have the cop on to show an abundance of caution. I know people in my work who took annual leave until someone they had contact with had tested negative rather than go to work. When people say they should take sick leave it is not that simple in all cases. No symptoms and thought about the greater good.

Zarco · 15-09-2020 11:53PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Has SD made any statement himself yet?

No just Goodnight

Happydays2020 · 15-09-2020 11:54PM

MOR316 wrote: »

I can get Friday off work and I hate going anywhere on Mondays

Grand, I'll be coming in from a county north of Dublin so, just wasn't sure of the situation. Thanks

PS. Will be going to Bray the following weekend for substantial pints

They will probably now ask to stop the dart to Bray over the next few weekends. Not necessarily a bad thing as it can be uncomfortable during the summer in normal times.

speckle · 15-09-2020 11:59PM

majcos wrote: »

Daily operations report doesn’t give number of admissions and discharges but a headcount at particular time points.

For example, if operations report says 50 at 8am and 50 at 2pm this doesn’t tell you how many are the same 50. Could look through counts of individual hospitals and add it up but even this would not tell you if patient counted at 8am is the same patient being counted at 2pm. So it’s hard to discern movement from operations report. Hub gives a specific count of admissions and discharges as well as current numbers so can see movement of patients in and out of hospitals.

unless the numbers are only low single digits and zeros?

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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