Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I'd like to see Carl Heneghan and Luke O'Neill go head to head. It'll never happen with the way Irish media is controlling the narrative in everything.

Saw Kingston Mills make mincemeat out of him on PT a while back .

Heneghan is a self publicising plonker , a mercenary person who like others in only picking a side to try to make a name for himself so that he can do plenty of so called scientific reviews for a good price for various interested companies and make the big bucks.

If you don't know by now that there is money to be made by some, and only to trust those with either credentials for working for the public good or a declared conflict of interest, I don't know what more to say to you!
It is one of the first principles in critiquing the bona fides of any research or review.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

On 3rd levels, most are nearly fully online until at least after Christmas and some have already decided it's online for the whole year.

I don't think they'll be as big an issue as many think, the vast majority were already set up for virtual learning before covid

Yes ,except first years who may be around a few days a week.

I have something to say which has been bugging me for the last few days :P

Discussion about Hospital cases , Covid or not...

All cases of Covid whether incidental ie picked up on admission for something else, or admitted with it, have to be isolated and treated seriously by the hospitals , hence why they are counted in the numbers.

It affects bed numbers seriously as if too many cases, wards and areas like xray and theatre have to separated into Covid and non Covid .

Same with staffing levels as those who work with Covid do not work with other patients.

I say this because some posters are under the impression that small numbers of Covid patients could not be affecting hospitals much.

Also while some hospitals only have one or two actual Covid cases , others have a higher concentration, whether due to catchment area or transfers in from other hospitals.
This makes sense while numbers are low as no point in every major hospital having ICU beds and wards tied up , and some hospitals have more expertise on site for Covid at this stage.

The impact on the health service is pervasive, as nobody wants any person attending hospital for some other illness to contract a disease which by its nature , even when mild, is inflammatory and can make other illnesses worse.

That means that restrictions on every patient , from how they are moved from one area to another for treatment , whether they have to wait until an area that has been used by another who may not yet have a clear swab is decontaminated etc.

All is usually planned for so called clean cases to be done first but that doesn't always happen , especially in an emergency .

This has the knock on effect of reducing numbers of patients that can be treated safely , and if it continues ,things are going to reach a tipping point at some stage where non Covid patients will be delayed or even cancelled .

So when next you all notice numbers rising please consider the impacts on the health service , it is not just as simple as adding a number.