Who thinks Trump will win?

Overheal · 14-09-2020 06:06PM

Biker79 wrote: »

You're right...its a bit childish.

Back on track now.

So you’ll be going back to actually address the cogent arguments supplied to you?

ExMachina1000 · 14-09-2020 06:24PM

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aKx1sQ0lQg

40 seconds in usual interruption in at Trump rally by members of the political opposition. Crowd responds chanting "All lives matter", Trump at 1:30 "He's going home to Mom", and sets expectation of a vaccine announcement before end of year.

Biden is not working the crowds like Trump or Obama can. His campaign has been lacklustre to date, as noted with Hillary Clinton campaign not that much enthusiasm on the ground. If you want to get the vote out then you got to work the crowd.

There also seems to be a degree of panic among California Democrats pushing Mother Earth seeming anxious to deflect any blame from them for the fires. Trump also visited the state o the internal state politics may be about to change for the Republicans. Biden will take that state, it is winner take all worth 55 seat in the electoral college.

Republicans dont go to the oppositions rally to protest. It's always the left side who have to shout loudest.
A sign of no confidence in Biden to win on his own merit

dark crystal · 14-09-2020 06:32PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Republicans dont go to the oppositions rally to protest. It's always the left side who have to shout loudest.
A sign of no confidence in Biden to win on his own merit

Trump shouldn't be holding crowded rallies during a pandemic in the first place.

Overheal · 14-09-2020 06:32PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Republicans dont go to the oppositions rally to protest.

Why do you say things you can't back up?

eg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSnAYdQPnOw

Not to mention numerous instances recently of right wing counter-protests...

ExMachina1000 · 14-09-2020 06:34PM

Overheal wrote: »

Why do you say things you can't back up?

eg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSnAYdQPnOw

Not to mention numerous instances recently of right wing counter-protests...

Touche.

I'm wrong on this one.

MadYaker · 14-09-2020 06:38PM

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aKx1sQ0lQg

40 seconds in usual interruption in at Trump rally by members of the political opposition. Crowd responds chanting "All lives matter", Trump at 1:30 "He's going home to Mom", and sets expectation of a vaccine announcement before end of year.

Biden is not working the crowds like Trump or Obama can. His campaign has been lacklustre to date, as noted with Hillary Clinton campaign not that much enthusiasm on the ground. If you want to get the vote out then you got to work the crowd.

There also seems to be a degree of panic among California Democrats pushing Mother Earth seeming anxious to deflect any blame from them for the fires. Trump also visited the state o the internal state politics may be about to change for the Republicans. Biden will take that state, it is winner take all worth 55 seat in the electoral college.

Only idiots are impressed by Trumps antics at his rallies. People who have functioning brains understand that he shouldn't even be holding rallies.

briany · 14-09-2020 06:42PM

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aKx1sQ0lQg

Biden is not working the crowds like Trump or Obama can. His campaign has been lacklustre to date, as noted with Hillary Clinton campaign not that much enthusiasm on the ground. If you want to get the vote out then you got to work the crowd.

Well, unlike Hillary, Biden can claim a legitimate reason for not holding many rallies.

Secondly, who is Trump working? Is he out there changing hearts and minds to his side, or is he simply out there stoking up the base?

Trump will need to do more than energise his base. He's well behind in the polls in both national and state-by-state polls, beyond the margin of error. Could it be possible that there are enough even-headed moderates out there who won't be swayed because of Trump's behaviour the last 3.5 years and any amount of MAGA rallies aren't going to change that?

Zarco · 14-09-2020 07:38PM

kenmm wrote: »

The thing is with those rallies - I don't get them - it's not like there are a bunch of people sitting on the fence that decide to pop along to one and get convinced to vote Trump.

A lot of them get paid to show up so could be indifferent

Man with broke phone · 14-09-2020 09:01PM

Hugh_mongous wrote: »

In my opinion Joe Biden is the saviour america needs.
First of all he isn't a racist and a facist like trump
Secondly he respects women and minorities and he calls out whitey for racism and white privilege.

Democrats pretend to love the downtrodden to get votes. Go to one of their parties and see how many lads who just jumped the border or criminals they bailed out are in attendance. Its champagne and caviar just like the republican party. Democrats have in the past got into power and did very little different to the republicans.

If Joe Biden was some nice old man like he plays some young blur ribboned shark would be ousting him months ago.

Pa ElGrande · 14-09-2020 10:03PM

Zarco wrote: »

A lot of them get paid to show up so could be indifferent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJesWOX1PWk

Man with broke phone · 14-09-2020 10:11PM

Violence erupting again.

The democrats in pensylvania are protesting another black guy being shot at the hands of the police.

Body cam footage shows him lunging at the police with a big knife before they shoot.

He stabbed four people in the last year alone.

Their feelings tell them it was racist though.

Maybe Lewis Hamilton can wear it on his shirt next week.

Democrats america,.if the mob feels somebody is guilty, if facebook feels somebody is guilty, if some guy on the internet feels somebody is guilty, if Lewis Hamiltons t shirt feels somebody is guilty we riot until they go to jail.

Who needs a court system?

kenmm · 14-09-2020 10:11PM

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJesWOX1PWk

?? I mean, what's that to show?

kenmm · 14-09-2020 10:13PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Violence erupting again.

The democrats in pensylvania are protesting another black guy being shot at the hands of the police.

Body cam footage shows him lunging at the police with a big knife before they shoot.

He stabbed four people in the last year alone.

Their feelings tell them it was racist though.

Maybe Lewis Hamilton can wear it on his shirt next week.

Democrats america,.if the mob feels somebody is guilty, if facebook feels somebody is guilty, if some guy on the internet feels somebody is guilty, if Lewis Hamiltons t shirt feels somebody is guilty we riot until they go to jail.

Who needs a court system?

More unsubstantiated ramblings.

Any chance of a link or something to help us out on these snippets you post?

Man with broke phone · 14-09-2020 10:23PM

kenmm wrote: »

More unsubstantiated ramblings.

Any chance of a link or something to help us out on these snippets you post?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/6abc.com/amp/ricardo-munoz-lancaster-pa-police-shooting-city/6421618/

Theres plenty of videos going around, some of them show supposed antifa people shouting we are not peaceful protestors while smashing windows of homes and businesses.

Man with broke phone · 14-09-2020 10:27PM

In the video of the shooting the police is trying to run from him but eventually has to shoot him because he gets too close with a big knife over his head.

The crowd are attacking the police station they dont feel like thats what happened.

Rodney Bathgate · 14-09-2020 10:28PM

Hugh_mongous wrote: »

The poll on this thread has trump at 22%
It's over for cheeto Hitler

Biden on 25% in the same meaningless ‘poll’ where probably 98% of the participants are not entitled to vote in the US presidential election.

Not to mention the 47% segment.

Time to put sleepy joe out of his misery.

Rodney Bathgate · 14-09-2020 10:29PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

In the video of the shooting the police is trying to run from him but eventually has to shoot him because he gets too close with a big knife over his head.

The crowd are attacking the police station they dont feel like thats what happened.

We need knife control.

kenmm · 14-09-2020 10:33PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

In the video of the shooting the police is trying to run from him but eventually has to shoot him because he gets too close with a big knife over his head.

The crowd are attacking the police station they dont feel like thats what happened.

Git a link to the video? I can't find it

Danzy · 14-09-2020 10:34PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

In the video of the shooting the police is trying to run from him but eventually has to shoot him because he gets too close with a big knife over his head.

The crowd are attacking the police station they dont feel like thats what happened.

The crowd don't give a ****, they want the thrill of the fight, feel like they are fighting sinners, few joints and beers after , get the ride and maybe do it again tomorrow.

Was in a riot once and it was some rush.

Man with broke phone · 14-09-2020 10:36PM

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

We need knife control.

As soon as Trump gets the backing another term will give him he will put down this insurgency with immediate effect. It will be like something out of game of thrones when the riot squad get let off the leash. Manners will be taught. Lessons will be learned.

Little punk lazy dead beat trouble risers will learn that gathering in crowds and trying to intimidate the working man, the elderly and all the good people of america does not benefit them.

I think the election is done, what I really want is a major blue state to fall to the republicans. Cuomo will have New York looking like an 80s cop movie or like Gotham city on a dark night if he keeps going the way he is.

Timberrrrrrrr · 14-09-2020 10:37PM

Danzy wrote: »

The crowd don't give a ****, they want the thrill of the fight, feel like they are fighting sinners, few joints and beers after , get the ride and maybe do it again tomorrow.

Was in a riot once and it was some rush.

So you feel it's fine to condemn people in America for doing something you have done before? Double standards indeed

kenmm · 14-09-2020 10:37PM

Hard not to feel bad about that whole situation. Take the protests out of it for a second, but ultimately you have a family that called for help for a mentally ill family member and now one person dead and a cops life turned upside down. Can't be easy to have to make that call to pull the trigger.

Don't quite see the political angle in this one tho, but not really the point. Terrible situation all round.

kenmm · 14-09-2020 10:41PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

As soon as Trump gets the backing another term will give him he will put down this insurgency with immediate effect. It will be like something out of game of thrones when the riot squad get let off the leash. Manners will be taught. Lessons will be learned.

Little punk lazy dead beat trouble risers will learn that gathering in crowds and trying to intimidate the working man, the elderly and all the good people of america does not benefit them.

I think the election is done, what I really want is a major blue state to fall to the republicans. Cuomo will have New York looking like an 80s cop movie or like Gotham city on a dark night if he keeps going the way he is.

Not often the tactic associated with a man of peace. Besides, It would be particularly unusual considering the current troubles form a significant part of his campaign.

On top of that, once he gets back in, he will do absolutely Fu(k all because ultimately he doesn't care about anyone or anything except himself. Feel free to bookmark this and we can discuss it in a year or so.

Man with broke phone · 14-09-2020 10:41PM

kenmm wrote: »

Hard not to feel bad about that whole situation. Take the protests out of it for a second, but ultimately you have a family that called for help for a mentally ill family member and now one person dead and a cops life turned upside down. Can't be easy to have to make that call to pull the trigger.

Don't quite see the political angle in this one tho, but not really the point. Terrible situation all round.

He was out on bail awaiting trial for stabbing 4 people. One of them a 16 year old boy. The dems still back the protests.

kenmm · 14-09-2020 10:42PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

He was out on bail awaiting trial for stabbing 4 people. One of them a 16 year old boy. The dems still back the protests.

Well I guess if you go out your way to politicise something then it becomes political. I can't find much reported about a strong democratic link to this incident.

Overheal · 14-09-2020 10:45PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

As soon as Trump gets the backing another term will give him he will put down this insurgency with immediate effect. It will be like something out of game of thrones when the riot squad get let off the leash. Manners will be taught. Lessons will be learned.

Trump is the President right now though, why does he not simply protect and serve the public right now? Or are these tactics you're suggesting going to be human rights violations or something?

Danzy · 14-09-2020 10:47PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So you feel it's fine to condemn people in America for doing something you have done before? Double standards indeed

I'd have no problem with them throwing bricks at British soldiers.

If anyone had gone looting I'd have stopped them.

The protests are an assault on African Americans to give rich whites a cause du jour.

kenmm · 14-09-2020 10:52PM

Overheal wrote: »

Trump is the President right now though, why does he not simply protect and serve the public right now? Or are these tactics you're suggesting going to be human rights violations or something?

You don't expect an answer to that tho? Do you?

Apart from it's sleepy Joe's fault or some claptrap.

Pa ElGrande · 14-09-2020 10:56PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

In the video of the shooting the police is trying to run from him but eventually has to shoot him because he gets too close with a big knife over his head.

The crowd are attacking the police station they dont feel like thats what happened.

There is a real problem for the DNC, in that they have come down on the wrong side of the issue, here is the complaint against Mr. Jacob Blake who was shot while resisting arrest, while allegedly trying to retrieve a knife from his car, which was then used as the excuse to launch a riot in a town in Illinois. The DNC rushed in and associated with Mr. Blake. In the case of the Lancaster shooting (viewer discretion) the police are responding to a complaint by a woman due to violence and threats against her, by a man who subsequently attacked a police officer with a knife that again was used as an excuse for rioting. This is who the Democrats have become associated with, any goodwill towards black lives matter is drying up, not only that the claims is that voting for Biden will end the chaos which voters could take the wrong way and imply that the DNC controls the violence and that they are making a direct threat. This is in a country where even suburban Democrat voters are buying guns to protect themselves out of fear.

Danzy · 14-09-2020 11:05PM

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

There is a real problem for the DNC, in that they have come down on the wrong side of the issue, here is the complaint against Mr. Jacob Blake who was shot while resisting arrest, while allegedly trying to retrieve a knife from his car, which was then used as the excuse to launch a riot in a town in Illinois. The DNC rushed in and associated with Mr. Blake. In the case of the Lancaster shooting (viewer discretion) the police are responding to a complaint by a woman due to violence and threats against her, by a man who subsequently attacked a police officer with a knife that again was used as an excuse for rioting. This is who the Democrats have become associated with, any goodwill towards black lives matter is drying up, not only that the claims is that voting for Biden will end the chaos which voters could take the wrong way and imply that the DNC controls the violence and that they are making a direct threat. This is in a country where even suburban Democrat voters are buying guns to protect themselves out of fear.

The only consistency in those who BLM protest for is that they are all extremely violent to women and children.

The protesters go home to suburbia.

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