Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

caveat emptor · 14-09-2020 05:21PM

niallo27 wrote: »

29 million cases worldwide and your basing reinfection on one person, what about the other 29,277,083 people. Its not healthy for you to be this afraid.

Who's afraid? There were 4 reported in Catalonia.
It's early days with this new disease, clearly right now reinfection is not a massive issue. Will the same be true in a year? Who knows.

Pointless arguing, believe what you want.
Blame who you want. Stand at the side of the road and shout fake news.
That's a really cool new hobby some have taken up.
That's the beauty about a free country, do what you want.
Nobody gives a fvck.

yourdeadwright · 14-09-2020 05:22PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Testing criteria for doctors in the tweet below.

https://twitter.com/DrZeroCraic/status/1305505929463562240?s=19

That's for 13 and over

Icantthinkof1 · 14-09-2020 05:23PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

That's for 13 and over

The 2nd page on Stephens link has the 3months to 13years criteria

Micky 32 · 14-09-2020 05:24PM

SPDUB wrote: »

caveat emptor It's pointless continuing on ACitizenErased never concedes anything

There’s part of a cohort on here who accused a positive post that i posted as being anecdotal and whataboutery even though it was my own experience and wasn’t some sh1te off Twitter or whatsapp. Caveat and his faithful cohort of followers only want to believe what they want to believe.

GooglePlus · 14-09-2020 05:24PM

Phase 3 for Dublin won't be very effective unless public attitude somehow changes drastically, which I can't see happen. This government has lost confidence so it will be difficult getting the right people on board.

PopTarts · 14-09-2020 05:25PM

How many cases are unannounced now?

Is it around the 350 mark?

Blondini · 14-09-2020 05:26PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Its not healthy for you to be this afraid.

Del Griffith wrote: »

Have fun in your cave.

Covid hardmen out in force this evening I see :rolleyes:

SusanC10 · 14-09-2020 05:29PM

Where can I see the 14-day numbers to correspond with the proposed
Levels 1-5 ?

wadacrack · 14-09-2020 05:30PM

Blondini wrote: »

Covid hardmen out in force this evening I see :rolleyes:

I laughed when I saw its not healthy for you to be this afraid. All cavet done was post information about re-infection. He didn't mention his mental state.

caveat emptor · 14-09-2020 05:30PM

Here's some more info for those interested. As rightly pointed out by the plandemic cohort it's probably fake news so take with a pinch of salt.
You have to decide if it's fake news and why it would be put out to mind control you.

I think people need to take a chill pill and enjoy the last of the summer sun while it lasts.

It'll be ok.

https://www.elperiodico.com/es/sociedad/20200914/cuatro-reinfectados-del-coronavirus-en-catalunya-8111844

Catalonia has documented four cases of Covid-19 reinfection. One of them is a doctor from the Palamós Hospital who has been admitted to the ICU of the Germans Trias i Pujol Hospital in Badalona , although his prognosis is good and his recovery is expected. This was explained this Monday by Dr. Bonaventura Clotet , head of the Infectious Diseases Service of the Germans Trias i Pujol University Hospital, on the RAC-1 station, where he pointed out that the other three cases are mild coronavirus .

For her part, the head of the Internal Medicine Service of the Palamós Hospital, Roca Toda, where the serious case was admitted at first, explained that this health worker at her hospital had a first mild-moderate infection last March and that in August was admitted to the emergency room with another much more serious than the previous one . The patient's situation worsened this second time and it was necessary to intubate him and refer him to Germans Trias i Pujol, where he remains in the ICU, with "a good evolution".

Todo has indicated that an epidemiological study has been carried out on the patient, who was on vacation at the time of relapse, and tests have also been carried out on the personnel of the Palamós hospital closest to the patient, with negative results. "We do not know where it has been infected," said Toda, who has asked, like Clotet, that health workers and the general population do not lower their guard against the virus.

For his part, Dr. Clotet has pointed out that "we believe that the majority of reinfections can be mild" , and hence not many have been documented so far, but "some are serious", as in the case of Palamós and another patient registered in the state of Nevada (United States). Clotet has insisted that both health workers and citizens do not relax preventive measures against the coronavirus.

MrJoeSoap · 14-09-2020 05:30PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Where can I see the 14-day numbers to correspond with the proposed
Levels 1-5 ?

I don't think it's a straightforward "x cases = y level", but I would imagine that moving to ~120 cases per 100k in last 14 days would warrant Level 4.

bpb101 · 14-09-2020 05:30PM

billybonkers wrote: »

48-72 hours for a result

Got tested Sunday morning at 11:15
Results my 1pm this afternoon

Was a close contact from 10 days ago and no symptoms, so i wasn’t urgent either
Waited 25 hours from contact call to test and 51 hours from call to test results
Fairly good going

stephenjmcd · 14-09-2020 05:32PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Where can I see the 14-day numbers to correspond with the proposed
Levels 1-5 ?

Wont be that straightforward. Its a mix of 7 and 14 day, where the cases occur, is there a link to cluster, community spread, hosptial situation etc.

hmmm · 14-09-2020 05:33PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Very informative thread. All reports backed up with great data

Great thread thanks.

Have you seen a paper on aerosols and how long CoV will be floating around (excuse me for not knowing the proper terminology)? I can understand in some sort of vacuum it's 16 hours, but in a realistic environment how long will it remain suspended?

ACitizenErased · 14-09-2020 05:35PM

Did I just get assigned to the plandemic cohort? I nearly spat out my dinner laughing

niallo27 · 14-09-2020 05:36PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Who's afraid? There were 4 reported in Catalonia.
It's early days with this new disease, clearly right now reinfection is not a massive issue. Will the same be true in a year? Who knows.

Pointless arguing, believe what you want.
Blame who you want. Stand at the side of the road and shout fake news.
That's a really cool new hobby some have taken up.
That's the beauty about a free country, do what you want.
Nobody gives a fvck.

You said it puts paid to the theory that reinfection is mild because one case is in icu, you not think we should wait till a few thousand react the same before you can state it as fact as you did.

caveat emptor · 14-09-2020 05:37PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Did I just get assigned to the plandemic cohort? I nearly spat out my dinner laughing

No you are the higher lower one sorry for the confusion, coming at me from all sides

SPDUB · 14-09-2020 05:37PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

There’s part of a cohort on here who accused a positive post that i posted as being anecdotal and whataboutery even though it was my own experience and wasn’t some sh1te off Twitter or whatsapp. Caveat and his faithful cohort of followers only want to believe what they want to believe.

What's that got to do with what I said about ACitizenErased

KrustyUCC · 14-09-2020 05:38PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Where can I see the 14-day numbers to correspond with the proposed
Levels 1-5 ?

Don't know how it corresponds to level 1-5 but here's the 14 day numbers from Richard Chambers

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1305480288458465281

Ann22 · 14-09-2020 05:41PM

seanb85 wrote: »

Lower viral load does not mean weakening. It might mean you are now seeing less ill patients than March, because in March in Italy only the sickest patients got tested or saw the inside of a hospital.

Yes and a lower viral load means less viral molecules have entered the body..which can happen when the patient was infected while wearing a mask or perhaps infected at distance or outside in fresh air. The immune system can cope better than say if someone who is riddled sneezes right beside you.

caveat emptor · 14-09-2020 05:41PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

4 more reinfections in Spain. Doctor had mild dose first time around and ended up in the ICU now. Is expected to recover.
Put's paid to the theory that subsequent infections can only be mild.

https://twitter.com/elpaisinenglish/status/1305489206807064578?s=20

niallo27 wrote: »

You said it puts paid to the theory that reinfection is mild because one case is in icu, you not think we should wait till a few thousand react the same before you can state it as fact as you did.

Oh no I didn't. Nice misquote Niallo.
Can you spot the difference? I've highlted it above for you
Can you go defame someone else with your misquotes please?

billybonkers · 14-09-2020 05:42PM

350+ unaccounted positive swabs. So likely to see high numbers today. We haven't changed any recommendations since cases started going up so why would anyone expect them to go down?

Dublin won't be in lockdown after tomorrow but probably restrict house visits so cases will still rise.

It will be interesting to see the criteria for moving from level to level in the plan tomorrow than then we can speculate properly about where will be restricted

14-09-2020 05:49PM

bpb101 wrote: »

Got tested Sunday morning at 11:15
Results my 1pm this afternoon

Was a close contact from 10 days ago and no symptoms, so i wasn’t urgent either
Waited 25 hours from contact call to test and 51 hours from call to test results
Fairly good going

That's quick. Do you have a condition that means a quick result test?
My daughter is 7 months pregnant, got tested first thing this morning after her husband was confirmed positive yesterday.

However the rest in her house didn't get test till late this afternoon including her toddler daughter and mother/father in law. Hoping results are quick.

s1ippy · 14-09-2020 05:54PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hilarious that people are still surprised by this.

For the vast majority it is literally a few sniffles. Many of us may have had it already and just put it down to a slight cold.

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/nine-staff-members-of-popular-restaurant-test-positive-for-covid-19-39529268.html

It sounds like they had several symptoms and ignored them and continued working anyway, putting their colleagues and customers at risk.

This idiotic culture is exactly what is going to topple this whole system.

The reason they didn't isolate when they had symptoms is because the messaging around schools muddied the waters. Children with sniffles are being sent in so adults assume it's not a symptom and keep working even though they should be isolating and getting a test.

I can't help but feel like this is a deliberate obfuscation strategy so that the testing system (in the short term) has narrower criteria. It's just like changing the 14 day self isolation to 10 days (last 5 without symptoms). It's actually going to cause more a lot more spread and will lead to the systems becoming overwhelmed more in time.

Is the briefing cancelled? When are figures? 450 positive swabs on Sunday and Monday. 310 seem to be left over. It's a mess. I'm sick sh!t of this.

Alf Veedersane · 14-09-2020 05:55PM

bpb101 wrote: »

Got tested Sunday morning at 11:15
Results my 1pm this afternoon

Was a close contact from 10 days ago and no symptoms, so i wasn’t urgent either
Waited 25 hours from contact call to test and 51 hours from call to test results
Fairly good going

Rang the GP on Friday morning at 8pm cos the young lad had a 'new cough'. Didn't think it was covid but the guidance includes such a symptom. Got an appointment for midday on Saturday. Results by 7.30pm Sunday. About 60 hours from initial call to the GP to results.

Didnt think it was covid but said better to isolate as if it was so was glad that it was as speedy as it was.

lukas8888 · 14-09-2020 05:57PM

s1ippy wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/nine-staff-members-of-popular-restaurant-test-positive-for-covid-19-39529268.html

It sounds like they had several symptoms and ignored them and continued working anyway, putting their colleagues and customers at risk.

This idiotic culture is exactly what is going to topple this whole system.

The reason they didn't isolate when they had symptoms is because the messaging around schools muddied the waters. Children with sniffles are being sent in so adults assume it's not a symptom and keep working even though they should be isolating and getting a test.

I can't help but feel like this is a deliberate obfuscation strategy so that the testing system (in the short term) has narrower criteria. It's just like changing the 14 day self isolation to 10 days (last 5 without symptoms). It's actually going to cause more a lot more spread and will lead to the systems becoming overwhelmed more in time.

Is the briefing cancelled? When are figures? 450 positive swabs on Sunday and Monday. 310 seem to be left over. It's a mess. I'm sick sh!t of this.

No briefing today

niallo27 · 14-09-2020 05:58PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Oh no I didn't. Nice misquote Niallo.
Can you spot the difference? I've highlted it above for you
Can you go defame someone else with your misquotes please?

Whaaaaaa, its the same thing.

TheValeyard · 14-09-2020 05:58PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Rang the GP on Friday morning at 8pm cos the young lad had a 'new cough'. Didn't think it was covid but the guidance includes such a symptom. Got an appointment for midday on Saturday. Results by 7.30pm Sunday. About 60 hours from initial call to the GP to results.

Didnt think it was covid but said better to isolate as if it was so was glad that it was as speedy as it was.

Yeah I'd the test at 11am on Friday, results by 6pm Saturday. Not bad at all. Just a new cough, nothing else. Tested negative. All good.

drunkmonkey · 14-09-2020 05:59PM

bpb101 wrote: »

Got tested Sunday morning at 11:15
Results my 1pm this afternoon

Was a close contact from 10 days ago and no symptoms, so i wasn’t urgent either
Waited 25 hours from contact call to test and 51 hours from call to test results
Fairly good going

Well are you one of the 8%? How close were you...

tobefrank321 · 14-09-2020 06:00PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

200 + Dublin likely so, lockdown or tough restrictions needed there

The longer they postpone the restrictions the worse its going to get. Eventually they will be left with the choice, full lockdown or allow it spread out of control. Rising hospitalizations and ICU numbers will then probably dictate a full lockdown.

At a minimum they need to ban house to house visits, cancel nursing home visits, postpone all sports events particularly contact sports, postpone bar openings, postpone 3rd level openings and a couple other measures. That might slow the spread.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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