Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

normanoffside · 09-09-2020 09:57PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

They are being tested ...repeatedly . But the snakey little virus is everywhere !

All staff are Supposed to be tested every two weeks, was scheduled for this week but cancelled due to capacity issues.

Ce he sin · 09-09-2020 09:58PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Looks like the 3 that died didn't even go to hospital, looks like another case of died with covid rather than of covid.

Ooooh, another one of those "nobody ever died of Covid, they just happened to have ir"!
Waterford Whispers explained that just today:

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2020/09/09/factcheck-no-its-not-correct-to-say-only-a-paraplegic-vegan-goat-named-fergal-died-from-covid-19-in-ireland/

stargazer 68 · 09-09-2020 09:59PM

normanoffside wrote: »

All staff are Supposed to be tested every two weeks, was scheduled for this week but cancelled due to capacity issues.

We were tested last week and 2 weeks ago. Due again next week and haven't heard anything to the contrary

Wolf359f · 09-09-2020 10:01PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Swabs taken but not sent to lab in time/ unable to complete today as workload already massive?

These are positive swabs which have already been tested. The days of people receiving 2 positive tests are long gone (use to be 1 in 12) so they can easily announce that number as positive tests notified to them in the past 24hrs. If they are duplicates, they can always denotify them at a later date.

igCorcaigh · 09-09-2020 10:01PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Surely there’s surge capacity? You’re doing 70k tests a week. Contact Germany, get them on board again, raise to 100k. The nonsense about capacity is beyond a joke.

I was surprised.

What Username Guidelines · 09-09-2020 10:02PM

Daz_ wrote: »

Why though ? Dying with and dying cause of Covid is actually important and potential inflating the significance of Covid .

Tbh I think there’s a middle ground here.

It’s hard to get your head around the whole the fact that excess deaths is a thing.

Statistically, yes there is some proof that either some of these people would have died anyway, or else other causes of death have somehow coincidentally reduced. So it’s likely the former.

But individually, it’s hard to accept if it’s a family member, because you may think “well they had plenty of time left”. And you can’t categorically say which deaths were gonna happen anyway, vs which weren’t.

But this notion of lumping in anyone with a pre existing condition into a separate bucket and saying the remainder are the “real” deaths by covid is the other end of the spectrum and not the correct way of doing it at all.

Think about the USA, 40% with pre existing conditions. We wouldn’t say only 1,700 died from 9/11 when 2,977 did. Yes a plane crashing into a building isn’t contagious and it’s a far smaller sample. But the idea is to look at excess deaths and not ignoring those with ore existing conditions.

Did some of those pre existing conditions kill some of those people? Sure they did. But it’s an extremely difficult thing to quantify.

ceadaoin. · 09-09-2020 10:04PM

seanb85 wrote: »

I'd love to know what the plan is once flu season starts.

Probably the world is in for a bumper flu season too with way more people being tested than usual and therefore more detected cases. They may decide to test those with symptoms for the flu first to rule it out before testing for covid? When my daughter was tested for flu last year, the results were ready within minutes so its a quicker way to decide if someone needs a further covid test if the flu one comes back negative. Thats what I would do anyway.

iguana · 09-09-2020 10:04PM

US2 wrote: »

Be interesting to see the swab positivity rate over the next few days. Tens of thousands of hypochondriacs tormenting doctors for tests every day I'm sure.

It’s nothing to do with hypochondriacs and everything to do with kids being back in school. The guidelines are that you are to call your gp if your child gets a cough/temperature and they will probably be referred for a test. And with kids back in school mild illnesses are rampant.

09-09-2020 10:06PM

Ce he sin wrote: »

Ooooh, another one of those "nobody ever died of Covid, they just happened to have ir"!
Waterford Whispers explained that just today:

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2020/09/09/factcheck-no-its-not-correct-to-say-only-a-paraplegic-vegan-goat-named-fergal-died-from-covid-19-in-ireland/

We all know them

Despite having the medical knowledge of a moldy carrot dropped in a blender, and an inferior understanding of data and statistics to that of a drunken illiterate squirrel, the man in the video claimed people weren’t really dying from Covid-19 at all

09-09-2020 10:06PM

alentejo wrote: »

I have a theory about the large instance of under 14 cases in Dublin.

There has been a dose going around in Dublin for the past few weeks. Its mainly a Cold with sneezing and runny nose etc. Most of my daughters class have had this over the past two weeks and I have heard anecdotally that it is in other schools.

I suspect this dose has led to a rather large increase in testing which has identified more children with Covid.

Same story in Cork re kids with colds, though Covid just doesn't seem to be as prevalent down here for whatever reason so its not translating into positive tests.

Goldengirl · 09-09-2020 10:07PM

US2 wrote: »

Be interesting to see the swab positivity rate over the next few days. Tens of thousands of hypochondriacs tormenting doctors for tests every day I'm sure.

Worried parents with sick children , not knowing if they will infect a class, are not hypochondriacs .

normanoffside · 09-09-2020 10:07PM

stargazer 68 wrote: »

We were tested last week and 2 weeks ago. Due again next week and haven't heard anything to the contrary

Just telling you that My friend's was cancelled this week due to capacity issues... last week is not this week.

stephenjmcd · 09-09-2020 10:10PM

HSE Operations report.

50 covid paitents in hosptial tonight. No change on yesterday.

6 in ICU and the 6 are ventilated. No change on yesterday.

5 cases in hosptials today, 1 each in Connolly, Mater, Tallaght, Navan & Mullingar.

After children's hosptials being mentioned recently, 0 cases & patients reported in the 3 CHI hosptials

Goldengirl · 09-09-2020 10:10PM

normanoffside wrote: »

All staff are Supposed to be tested every two weeks, was scheduled for this week but cancelled due to capacity issues.

According to previous posts and news that was just meat plants ..

Goldengirl · 09-09-2020 10:11PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

HSE Operations report.

50 covid paitents in hosptial tonight. No change on yesterday.

6 in ICU and the 6 are ventilated. No change on yesterday.

5 cases in hosptials today, 1 each in Connolly, Mater, Tallaght, Navan & Mullingar

4 dead ...big change on yesterday !

normanoffside · 09-09-2020 10:11PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Worried parents with sick children , not knowing if they will infect a class, are not hypochondriacs .

Honestly, a simple rule would be to keep kids at home if they feel unwell and not let them go back to school until they are better.
That would take away 99.9% of the risk without overwhelming the testing capacity and potentially compromising lives of the vulnerable.

Goldengirl · 09-09-2020 10:12PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Just telling you that My friend's was cancelled this week due to capacity issues... last week is not this week.

Is your friend nursing home staff ?

stephenjmcd · 09-09-2020 10:13PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

4 dead ...big change on yesterday !

Its the HSE Operations report. Thats the numbers in it and they aren't any different to yesterday.

Same numbers in hosptial so no cumulative change day on day

normanoffside · 09-09-2020 10:13PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

According to previous posts and news that was just meat plants ..

As I posted previously, a friend who works in a nursing home, was told his scheduled test which was due this week, was postponed for a least a week due to capacity issues.

I can't say if this is a national or local policy but it has just happened.

Wolf359f · 09-09-2020 10:14PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Worried parents with sick children , not knowing if they will infect a class, are not hypochondriacs .

Why would they be worried about infecting a class? Guidelines suggest anything other than a runny nose the child has to stay at home, regardless of if they will require a test or just have to wait 2 days to see if symptoms clear.

normanoffside · 09-09-2020 10:14PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Is your friend nursing home staff ?

Yes

09-09-2020 10:14PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

These are positive swabs which have already been tested. The days of people receiving 2 positive tests are long gone (use to be 1 in 12) so they can easily announce that number as positive tests notified to them in the past 24hrs. If they are duplicates, they can always denotify them at a later date.

That would really do the integrity of the daily reports a lot of good - “ we had 200 cases today but have to take 8 of yesterday’s and 11 off Mondays as they were tested twice. My bad, but doing it this way keeps the amateur epidemiologists on boards.ie from savaging us”

What there should in fact be is a weekly epidemiological report giving the cases by swab date, not result date, or report date. This is what would produce the most accurate figure, but there are probably only a couple of journalists in the country who would be able to get third head around it sufficiently to be able to communicate on it.

khalessi · 09-09-2020 10:14PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Honestly, a simple rule would be to keep kids at home if they feel unwell and not let them go back to school until they are better.
That would take away 99.9% of the risk without overwhelming the testing capacity and potentially compromising lives of the vulnerable.

Having stood in the queue yesterday waiting for kiddo to be tested, a queue which was made up of mostly kids, the testers definitely didn't look overwhelmed. It was calm, well organised and moved quickly along, while the people working there were efficient and relaxed in themselves with each other and the public.

ACitizenErased · 09-09-2020 10:15PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

HSE Operations report.

50 covid paitents in hosptial tonight. No change on yesterday.

6 in ICU and the 6 are ventilated. No change on yesterday.

5 cases in hosptials today, 1 each in Connolly, Mater, Tallaght, Navan & Mullingar.

After children's hosptials being mentioned recently, 0 cases & patients reported in the 3 CHI hosptials

Seems like discharges and confirmed cases are cancelling each other out for past few days

Jim_Hodge · 09-09-2020 10:15PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Its the HSE Operations report. Thats the numbers in it and they aren't any different to yesterday.

Does it show e.g. +4/-4 if there were new admissions replacing others either released or died?

stephenjmcd · 09-09-2020 10:17PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Seems like discharges and confirmed cases are cancelling each other out for past few days

Would appear so. Beaumont still reporting the highest number of paitents at 14.

Micky 32 · 09-09-2020 10:17PM

seanb85 wrote: »

I'd love to know what the plan is once flu season starts.

You seem to be an expert on here, any suggestions yourself? I’m all ears.

giveitholly · 09-09-2020 10:17PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

HSE Operations report.

50 covid paitents in hosptial tonight. No change on yesterday.

6 in ICU and the 6 are ventilated. No change on yesterday.

5 cases in hosptials today, 1 each in Connolly, Mater, Tallaght, Navan & Mullingar.

After children's hosptials being mentioned recently, 0 cases & patients reported in the 3 CHI hosptials

How many in UHL?

ACitizenErased · 09-09-2020 10:18PM

giveitholly wrote: »

How many in UHL?

2

stephenjmcd · 09-09-2020 10:18PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Does it show e.g. +4/-4 if there were new admissions replacing others either released or died?

Hub shows released v discharged. Reporting 3 of each for last 24hrs.

All that's ever reported for hosptials is ICU deaths.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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