Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

NegativeCreep · 09-09-2020 08:59PM

growleaves wrote: »

This crisis has revealed a hidden Ireland full of Prohibitionists. Never would have dreamed there were so many people with grudges against drinkers and publicans. Eye-opening.

It’s not even drinkers. It’s anyone! That post even somehow managed to bring people on the dole into it too. Weird as I read today that there is a big increase in cases in south east Dublin. Probably not too many on the dole there. There’s a lot of hate in this country right now I think.

TheBlackPill · 09-09-2020 09:00PM

growleaves wrote: »

This crisis has revealed a hidden Ireland full of Prohibitionists. Never would have dreamed there were so many people with grudges against drinkers and publicans. Eye-opening.

Professionally i have been sick of the drink culture and the publicans for years

NegativeCreep · 09-09-2020 09:03PM

Parabellum9 wrote: »

I had no grudge against publicans until they started cheerleading MUP, and most recently wanted off licence sales stopped if they weren’t allowed to open. The lot of the greedy pricks can go **** themselves for all I care now, couldn’t give a **** if they never open again.

They called for off licenses to cease trading knowing full well it would never happen. They called for it to point out a hypocrisy. If cases were appearing from house parties surely it would be a logical suggestion. House parties continued with no real enforcement of restrictions yet pubs were not allowed to open.

Sephiroth_dude · 09-09-2020 09:04PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Why do they hold these back?

Was just going to ask the same question.

Arghus · 09-09-2020 09:04PM

If the government could magically come up with the money to keep pubs shut and pay the bills for publicans during all this I guarantee you we'd hear precious little about the fate of the poor isolated rural drinker with the pub as his only social outlet.

NegativeCreep · 09-09-2020 09:05PM

TheBlackPill wrote: »

Professionally i have been sick of the drink culture and the publicans for years

Don’t engage in it then.

TheBlackPill · 09-09-2020 09:05PM

Arghus wrote: »

If the government could magically come up with the money to keep pubs shut and pay the bills for publicans during all this I guarantee you we'd hear precious little about the fate of the poor isolated rural drinker with the pub as his only social outlet.

the publicans would trouser the cash then run their pub as a shebeen

DangerScouse · 09-09-2020 09:07PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Looks like the 3 that died didn't even go to hospital, looks like another case of died with covid rather than of covid.

Okay Doctor Niall

growleaves · 09-09-2020 09:07PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

What are you talking about.
Publicans have had grudges against anyone drinking in restaurants or at home for decades.
Look at the how they cheered on minimum unit pricing, and fight tooth and nail when Michael Mc Dowell wanted to make it easier to get a drink.

I remember those things but I didn't realise people were keeping a tally and nursing a grudge for years afterwards.

Before covid the last time I had read about McDowells cafe-bars were when the idea was in the news originally, whatever year that was.

I thought McDowell had a very good idea - he had a constructive replacement for pubs.

Today's anti-social cranks want to rip the social fabric to pieces out of spite, replace it with nothing and they themselves are either chained to their spouse or permanently hibernating with their laptops.

igCorcaigh · 09-09-2020 09:08PM

https://twitter.com/franmcnulty/status/1303786276554977280?s=19

TheBlackPill · 09-09-2020 09:09PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Don’t engage in it then.

No bloody choice. I have to deal with the carnage. The biggest laugh was the publicans claiming they are a responsible bunch and wouldn't allow public drunkedness in their establishments. The pub industry survives on small numbers of regular heavy drinkers(ie alcoholics). Without fail they serve drunk people then let them out on the streets(assaults accidents etc), where a condition on their licence is not to serve drunk people.
We have too many pubs
Paradoxically if the number of pubs were halved there would be less trouble as the remaining publicans would be able to make a living on a larger, less regular customer base(ie social drinkers)

09-09-2020 09:10PM

growleaves wrote: »

I remember those things but I didn't realise people were keeping a tally and nursing a grudge for years afterwards.

Before covid the last time I had read about McDowells cafe-bars were when the idea was in the news originally, whatever year that was.

I thought McDowell had a very good idea - he had a constructive replacement for pubs.

Today's anti-social cranks want to rip the social fabric to pieces out of spite, replace it with nothing and they themselves are either chained to their spouse or permanently hibernating with their laptops.

Table service regulations for Covid will give mcdowell what he wanted all along. Continental style cafe bars

growleaves · 09-09-2020 09:11PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

It’s not even drinkers. It’s anyone! That post even somehow managed to bring people on the dole into it too. Weird as I read today that there is a big increase in cases in south east Dublin. Probably not too many on the dole there. There’s a lot of hate in this country right now I think.

Well I think that's a boards thing, people on the dole being brought into every discussion.

Jim_Hodge · 09-09-2020 09:19PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Looks like the 3 that died didn't even go to hospital, looks like another case of died with covid rather than of covid.

It must be wonderful having such psychic powers. Any chance of the Lottery numbers?

This old 'died with Covid not of covid' is wearing n and quite insulting to those who have died and their families.

growleaves · 09-09-2020 09:20PM

Arghus wrote: »

Would you give over. More nonsense.

That's not the reason why most people are concerned about the reopening of pubs.

I didn't say it was. More nonsense from you

There have been loads of cranks on these threads expressing anti-alcohol, anti-vintners sentiments. That's what I'm addressing.

sterz · 09-09-2020 09:21PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

The daily figures aren't that important. The 7 and 14 day figures are and they are alarming.

Arghus wrote: »

And both those figures are going up.

My post wasn't disputing that. It was highlighting that when they're reporting the daily figures they take a totally different approach whenever there's any significant drop.

Daz_ · 09-09-2020 09:22PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

It must be wonderful having such psychic powers. Any chance of the Lottery numbers?

This old 'died with Covid not of covid' is wearing n and quite insulting to those who have died and their families.

Why though ? Dying with and dying cause of Covid is actually important and potential inflating the significance of Covid .

Arghus · 09-09-2020 09:30PM

growleaves wrote: »

...there have been loads of cranks on these threads...

That I will not dispute.

odyssey06 · 09-09-2020 09:33PM

growleaves wrote: »

I remember those things but I didn't realise people were keeping a tally and nursing a grudge for years afterwards.
Before covid the last time I had read about McDowells cafe-bars were when the idea was in the news originally, whatever year that was.
I thought McDowell had a very good idea - he had a constructive replacement for pubs.
Today's anti-social cranks want to rip the social fabric to pieces out of spite, replace it with nothing and they themselves are either chained to their spouse or permanently hibernating with their laptops.

You remember those things?
Minimum unit pricing hasnt even kicked in yet.

I cited McDowells plan as but one example over the years where publicans were v happy to align themselves on the sides of prohibiting or restricting alcohol sales.

This time the shoe is on the other foot.
Still they went on to attack off licences.
If they are really concerned about prohibition they need to be standing together with other alcohol sellers.

Goldengirl · 09-09-2020 09:35PM

Scoondal wrote: »

Following government advice, I removed my son from school as he was showing 2 symptoms. On day 3 we contacted our doctor. This is day six without a response.
Should we send him back to school or not. His fever is gone and the cough is much less. So, according to public health advice, he is now okay to attend school. Am I right ?

There was a list of what to do if 's from the HSE posted here at lunchtime .

Contact with confirmed case or anyone with a history of travel ?

Edit. Posted graphic two posts down

ACitizenErased · 09-09-2020 09:44PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

https://twitter.com/franmcnulty/status/1303786276554977280?s=19

Surely there’s surge capacity? You’re doing 70k tests a week. Contact Germany, get them on board again, raise to 100k. The nonsense about capacity is beyond a joke.

Goldengirl · 09-09-2020 09:44PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Yeah that's why they killed and disappeared several researchers and suppressed any information coming out about covid at the start of the year.

https://twitter.com/hpscireland/status/1303607840263806977?s=09
Useful graphic from HPSC on what you should be doing if you're currently affected by covid.

@ Scoondal..
This is the article I was referring to in my previous post ..good to have , thanks s1ippy

US2 · 09-09-2020 09:48PM

Be interesting to see the swab positivity rate over the next few days. Tens of thousands of hypochondriacs tormenting doctors for tests every day I'm sure.

Goldengirl · 09-09-2020 09:50PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Why do they hold these back?

Swabs taken but not sent to lab in time/ unable to complete today as workload already massive?

normanoffside · 09-09-2020 09:54PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

https://twitter.com/franmcnulty/status/1303786276554977280?s=19

Kinda rings a bell with what I said about Nursing homes earlier.
Whatever about Meat Plants, nursing home staff should be tested as first priority.
Schools and Meat plants should be secondary.

Goldengirl · 09-09-2020 09:55PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

What are you talking about.
Publicans have had grudges against anyone drinking in restaurants or at home for decades.
Look at the how they cheered on minimum unit pricing, and fight tooth and nail when Michael Mc Dowell wanted to make it easier to get a drink.

Well said , would have booze prohibited for sale everywhere but the pub if they could .

growleaves · 09-09-2020 09:55PM

Arghus wrote: »

That I will not dispute.

Such sparkling wit.

seanb85 · 09-09-2020 09:55PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Surely there’s surge capacity? You’re doing 70k tests a week. Contact Germany, get them on board again, raise to 100k. The nonsense about capacity is beyond a joke.

I'd love to know what the plan is once flu season starts.

Goldengirl · 09-09-2020 09:56PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Kinda rings a bell with what I said about Nursing homes earlier.
Whatever about Meat Plants, nursing home staff should be tested as first priority.
Schools and Meat plants should be secondary.

They are being tested ...repeatedly . But the snakey little virus is everywhere !

growleaves · 09-09-2020 09:56PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

You remember those things?
Minimum unit pricing hasnt even kicked in yet

I mean I'm aware of the controversy around it.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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