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Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Thanks.

    Might sound like a fool asking but what is counted as Dublin west?
    Much of what you listed. It's the constituency of Dublin West.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_West_(D%C3%A1il_constituency)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,137 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Oh I’m sure there are some like on here positively rubbing their hands at the prospect of it - the rest of us won’t pay much attention. That’s not a sad reflection, it’s a realistic reflection. Lockdown has been and gone, and if they can’t come up with a new approach To managing this like restricting the areas those cases are in then that’s on them and nobody else. I won’t be restricting my movements because a specific town full of “culture“ is causing these numbers, they have nothing to do with me.

    You can't answer a simple question without getting a dig in. People who abide by restrictions don't do so because they enjoy it. They don't celebrate having to restrict their lives.
    Nobody said lockdown: Restrictions are what may be required. And you think Dublin or Limerick people will 100% fail to abide by those restrictions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Strumms wrote: »
    just had cold callers to the house.. I didn’t answer but went to the front door after 5 NO’s were told to them.. I’m looking out my window and they’ve been at my 90 year old neighbors front door, one with his foot ‘IN’ his porch... for about 15 minutes...a 6’4” smartly dressed Irish fella about 40 / early 40’s and a much smaller 5’7” scruffy looking African gentleman in less professional attire including an old red jacket... didnt get an opportunity to hear what they are plugging or collecting...

    If you are responsible for sending these fûcking pair of scumbag dweebs around to people uninvited with smarmy aggressive, invasive and persistent attitudes, instead of fives NO’s it might be a bunch of fives es, if I happen to open the door...next time.

    Even before Covid, I felt door to door sales people or charity collectors should be banned. There is no reason for it in this day and age, and so many dodgy operators. By all means, leave a leaflet in the door but that should be all they can do.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Oh I’m sure there are some like on here positively rubbing their hands at the prospect of it - the rest of us won’t pay much attention. That’s not a sad reflection, it’s a realistic reflection. Lockdown has been and gone, and if they can’t come up with a new approach To managing this like restricting the areas those cases are in then that’s on them and nobody else. I won’t be restricting my movements because a specific town full of “culture“ is causing these numbers, they have nothing to do with me.

    If you live in an area that is restricted you will be restricted.

    You won't be able to go to a restaurant.

    The gardai will have checkpoints at the county perimeter to keep you in unless it's essential.

    Guests in your home is harder to enforce. Many will do it without having to be asked.

    You'll still be restricted until a county gets its cases down to protect that county and the rest of us outside the county.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,173 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    "I was updatin' me bebo page!"

    Those were the days, how would we cope in this pandemic without social media


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    You can't answer a simple question without getting a dig in. People who abide by restrictions don't do so because they enjoy it. They don't celebrate having to restrict their lives.
    Nobody said lockdown: Restrictions are what may be required. And you think Dublin or Limerick people will 100% fail to abide by those restrictions?

    You’re missing my point - why should Limerick as a whole have restrictions because the cases are originating in one town? Should Dublin be completely restricted if the cases for example were in Tallaght? Just like the “restrictions” placed on Kildare and Offaly - I’m sure the meat processing plants at the centre of the those are in specific town lands and don’t encompass the entire county?

    Garda checkpoints could much more easily restrict access in and out of hotspot localities than everybody in that county being restricted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Those were the days, how would we cope in this pandemic without social media
    People would remember what a phone was for!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Even before Covid, I felt door to door sales people or charity collectors should be banned. There is no reason for it in this day and age, and so many dodgy operators. By all means, leave a leaflet in the door but that should be all they can do.

    Agreed. Put a note on ur door. No callers in months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    If you live in an area that is restricted you will be restricted.

    You won't be able to go to a restaurant.

    The gardai will have checkpoints at the county perimeter to keep you in unless it's essential.

    Guests in your home is harder to enforce. Many will do it without having to be asked.

    You'll still be restricted until a county gets its cases down to protect that county and the rest of us outside the county.

    You know there are ways through those “essential” travel checkpoints yes? There will be no Garda checkpoint stopping me from visiting parents and relatives even if it does come in ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Agreed. Put a note on ur door. No callers in months.

    Quite a few around these day , doing gutters and driveways......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,040 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Waste of money I'd say.

    Better to invest money on improving testing.

    The app can catch cases that close contact tracing can't - that's pretty much all it does, and it doesn't really cost much to do that. How is it a waste of money, and how do you achieve the same with spending money on testing?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    As discussed earlier a non story. Was said when the announcement was made on their reopening that it would depend on local restrictions. If theres local restrictions they don't open in those areas. If there isn't they open.

    Local restrictions affect more than just pubs which is exactly what the article points out


    I'd be surprised if pubs could not open in Dublin, but open in Galway.

    The whole thing is like a sketch out of Monty Python.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,967 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    See attached.
    Sorry on my phone so can't post it in the reply properly.

    Thanks Stephen .
    Yes as the op said women living longer and the oldest age group has more female deaths than men .
    That age group has the most deaths in this country so that is why more female deaths than men .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Whoever invented the term "wet pubs" should be put up against a wall and have 100 €9 meals fired straight at their face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,246 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    I'd be surprised if pubs could not open in Dublin, but open in Galway.

    The whole thing is like a sketch out of Monty Python.

    What's Monty Python about it?
    Zero funny about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,820 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Even before Covid, I felt door to door sales people or charity collectors should be banned. There is no reason for it in this day and age, and so many dodgy operators. By all means, leave a leaflet in the door but that should be all they can do.

    Yes, leafleting a ok but door to door sales/charity collections in the middle of a pandemic is just shïtty behavior. In the age of the internet organizations can still advertise for donations...

    From what I’m reading seemingly now this craic is on the rise as charities/sellers are aware that people are in their home for more of the day than usual. Hence a captive audience... probably banking on people throwing a few bob to make them disappear than be rude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,137 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    You’re missing my point - why should Limerick as a whole have restrictions because the cases are originating in one town? Should Dublin be completely restricted if the cases for example were in Tallaght? Just like the “restrictions” placed on Kildare and Offaly - I’m sure the meat processing plants at the centre of the those are in specific town lands and don’t encompass the entire county?

    Garda checkpoints could much more easily restrict access in and out of hotspot localities than everybody in that county being restricted.

    And your point above has merit. But you said nobody would adhere to any restrictions when clearly many people will. The question wasn't about the logic but the compliance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,189 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Whoever invented the term "wet pubs" should be put up against a wall and have 100 €9 meals fired straight at their face.

    My proposal of calling them "pubs" pubs was shot down early by the committee.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Polar101 wrote: »
    The app can catch cases that close contact tracing can't - that's pretty much all it does, and it doesn't really cost much to do that. How is it a waste of money, and how do you achieve the same with spending money on testing?

    How much to build?

    They were working on it from April.

    How many cases have they caught that would not have been caught the old fashioned way?

    Who has said test test test.

    We need to build our testing capacity in order to be increase volume and speed of results.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Wolf359f




    It's happening in people's homes.
    Tell people to stop having guests in Dublin.

    I dunno, people were happy to meet up socially outdoors while watching sports, that was banned and those people ended up indoors instead. No wonder the behavioral expect at the press conference mentioned the public didn't realise outdoors was much safer than indoors. I wonder why that is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,173 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    I'd be surprised if pubs could not open in Dublin, but open in Galway.

    The whole thing is like a sketch out of Monty Python.

    What's Month Python about opening the pubs where infection levels are low and keeping them closed where infections are high? Perhaps if it was the opposite way around, it might make for a sketch but I'm baffled at how making decisions based on levels of risk is somehow funny or whacky


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Whoever invented the term "wet pubs" should be put up against a wall and have 100 €9 meals fired straight at their face.

    We could call them "moist pubs" for a while.. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Whoever invented the term "wet pubs" should be put up against a wall and have 100 €9 meals fired straight at their face.
    NPHET or more likely politicians. Apparently it started in August and this is where it originally came from.
    ‘Wet pub’ is derived from an internal industry term ‘wet-led’ used to identify a pubs main product range


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    If you live in an area that is restricted you will be restricted.

    You won't be able to go to a restaurant.

    The gardai will have checkpoints at the county perimeter to keep you in unless it's essential.

    Guests in your home is harder to enforce. Many will do it without having to be asked.

    You'll still be restricted until a county gets its cases down to protect that county and the rest of us outside the county.

    Gardai will not have checkpoints. During the LOKdown, there were no checkpoints, you could leave your home for work, ANY work.
    Also:

    Indoor/Outdoor gatherings

    A maximum of 15 people has been set for those gathering outdoors, with strict physical distancing rules expected to be in place, while indoor gatherings are limited to just six people with no more than three households in total.

    That was in kildare, offaly and laois last month


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,820 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Whoever invented the term "wet pubs" should be put up against a wall and have 100 €9 meals fired straight at their face.

    Yes, I hate that term, what brain cell challenged dweeb came up with that phrase.... what’s wrong with ‘food pub’ & ‘non food pub’......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    UK Government acknowledging those with long Covid. i.e this who have "recovered" but are not getting better.
    Wonder will Irish Gov do the same. We should probably tell them to stop being so negative. The power of positive thought
    can get us through this crisis.

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1303349911220518914?s=20


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    spookwoman wrote: »

    In fairness to Catherine Martin, it seems she takes no guff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,448 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    I'd be surprised if pubs could not open in Dublin, but open in Galway.

    The whole thing is like a sketch out of Monty Python.

    Not much makes sense anymore when it comes to some decisions. But roll on the 21st. Just so happens to match up with a few days in Cork


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