Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

the corpo · 08-09-2020 04:54PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

It'd be nuts if in 3-6 weeks there was a vaccine ready to go. I know it won't be available for everyone on day 1, but it could do a lot for the psyche knowing there is one on the way.

Pat Kenny was funny yesterday, saying he really hopes the vaccine is on the way, but that they hold the announcement until after Nov 3. If it's before then Trump gets the glory and in again for sure!

Plumbthedepths · 08-09-2020 05:01PM

the corpo wrote: »

Pat Kenny was funny yesterday, saying he really hopes the vaccine is on the way, but that they hold the announcement until after Nov 3. If it's before then Trump gets the glory and in again for sure!

Even for Kenny that's a pathetic comment.

Plumbthedepths · 08-09-2020 05:03PM

Blondini wrote: »

Yeah, who needs their parents or grandparents who might have lived a few more years.

Open up the pubs defuk!

Lots of grandparents want to go the pub aswell. My father is 73 and a grandfather. He's looking forward to meeting up with his friends for a pint.

is_that_so · 08-09-2020 05:08PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Lots of grandparents want to go the pub aswell. My father is 73 and a grandfather. He's looking forward to meeting up with his friends for a pint.

Indeed there are some feisty 70 and 80 somethings in the family who will also relish a return.

odyssey06 · 08-09-2020 05:08PM

rusty cole wrote: »

I saw that post on social media today with all the deaths, it's doing the rounds alright. so only 100 people had no underlying conditions and the rest that died were around 84!!
so over 1600 people died with underlying conditions and also with Covid 19- so the deaths are now Covid "related", Sure if you have herpes, that's for life, so should we swab for that and call congestive heart failure in a 90yr old with underlying conditions, Herpes related??

The Journal does a pretty good job of debunking that figure here in its FactFind:
https://www.thejournal.ie/how-many-people-have-died-from-covid-19-in-ireland-5198763-Sep2020/

khalessi · 08-09-2020 05:13PM

rusty cole wrote: »

I saw that post on social media today with all the deaths, it's doing the rounds alright. so only 100 people had no underlying conditions and the rest that died were around 84!!

so over 1600 people died with underlying conditions and also with Covid 19- so the deaths are now Covid "related", Sure if you have herpes, that's for life, so should we swab for that and call congestive heart failure in a 90yr old with underlying conditions, Herpes related??

I think that post on social media is ridiculous. You can be living a normal life with an underlying condition.

Horrible to think about but my dad has ongoing cancer treatment for prostate cancer. According to his consultants it is being very well controlled so he should continue living his life as he has been and not worry about it as it is been held in check with the treatment.

He is in his mid 70s and healthwise has been told he has the heart and lungs of a much younger man and the posture and agility of a man 20 + years younger. His healing powers are remarkable. He is on no meds apart from cancer treatment and his bp and cholesterol are normal limits despite his love of cream cakes. Despite a fake knee he will paint a house in less than a week and has.

If he got Covid19 and died. It would not have been his age or Prostate Cancer that killed him but the Covid and I would expect a death cert to reflect that. Do you think it should say Prostate Cancer?

Arghus · 08-09-2020 05:19PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

The 'give it two weeks brigade' have been quiet for a while now. ICU has been amazingly stable.

Let's hope this post ages well.

kilburn · 08-09-2020 05:20PM

Question I am sure someone here will have a correct answer for.

Let's say x tests positive how long is it before y who is a close contact is notified by HSE

theballz · 08-09-2020 05:20PM

Arghus wrote: »

Let's hope this post ages well.

Dublin is due to be locked down by Monday according to them loooooooool

jd · 08-09-2020 05:22PM

khalessi wrote: »

I think that post on social media is ridiculous. You can be living a normal life with an underlying condition.

Yup, an underlying condition could be asthma or high blood pressure.

https://twitter.com/andrewflood/status/1303361799627124736

https://twitter.com/andrewflood/status/1303257126815633408

Arghus · 08-09-2020 05:23PM

theballz wrote: »

Dublin is due to be locked down by Monday according to them loooooooool

I can't see Dublin being "locked down" - but I reckon there will be some more restrictions in place.

Assetbacked · 08-09-2020 05:24PM

Arghus wrote: »

Let's hope this post ages well.

Still waiting for the June bank holiday parties to be reflected in deaths.

08-09-2020 05:25PM

jd wrote: »

Yup, an underlying condition could be asthma or high blood pressure.

https://twitter.com/andrewflood/status/1303361799627124736

https://twitter.com/andrewflood/status/1303257126815633408

This is probably why Africa has escaped this so far. It is a much younger population than Europe.

Atlantic Dawn · 08-09-2020 05:25PM

Arghus wrote: »

I can't see Dublin being "locked down" - but I reckon there will be some more restrictions in place.

They should make it illegal to sell a tray of cans without free hand sanitizer thrown in.

stephenjmcd · 08-09-2020 05:26PM

1 thing overlooked today with everything about the pubs. Current restrictions due to lapse on the 13th, such as no spectators at sports. I presume NPHET are meeting later in the week to advise on things like this ?

Gruffalux · 08-09-2020 05:28PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

Still waiting for the June bank holiday parties to be reflected in deaths.

I think that due to the national lockdown that began being lifted on 18th May, 2 weeks before that June bank holiday, the level of circulating virus was very very low then. People kind of forget that the lockdown worked. It stopped people infecting each other on a huge scale. We are still in the place of quite low amounts of circulating virus but the amount circulating is slowly increasing.

schmoo2k · 08-09-2020 05:29PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Even for Kenny that's a pathetic comment.

Kenny really does not like Trump! While not a Trump fan myself there was some commentary giving him credit for rushing the vaccine through the process (assuming it works and doesn't kill anyone of course).

Irish Aris · 08-09-2020 05:29PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

1 thing overlooked today with everything about the pubs. Current restrictions due to lapse on the 13th, such as no spectators at sports. I presume NPHET are meeting later in the week to advise on things like this ?

I would think so. I think I read that the Green List will be looked as well - I'm due to travel in 2 weeks and looking forward for the updates.

is_that_so · 08-09-2020 05:30PM

jd wrote: »

Yup, an underlying condition could be asthma or high blood pressure.

Asthma is not believed to be such a high risk in general. In our cases it was heart conditions, cancer and diabetes as some of the main conditions.

Arghus · 08-09-2020 05:31PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

Still waiting for the June bank holiday parties to be reflected in deaths.

Okay, be flippant about it. Great craic taking the piss about the prospect of people being ill and dying.

Cases are up, hospital admissions are up - these are facts.

Eventually will we see a rise in ICU numbers, it's inevitable. People are clinging to the current figures as if they won't change in time. A few weeks ago it was the amount of tests, then the positivity rate, then the low hospital admissions - now it's ICU numbers.

Assetbacked · 08-09-2020 05:33PM

Arghus wrote: »

Okay, be flippant about it. Great craic taking the piss about the prospect of people being ill and dying.

Cases are up, hospital admissions are up - these are facts.

Eventually will we see a rise in ICU numbers, it's inevitable. People are clinging to the current figures as if they won't change in time.

No, it really isn't. I'm not sure where you get your data from but I can tell you a "fact" as well that it is far from inevitable.

amandstu · 08-09-2020 05:34PM

Deleted User wrote: »

This is probably why Africa has escaped this so far. It is a much younger population than Europe.

There is a theory that some places in S Africa may also have some effective immunity by virtue of living in close proximity and so catching more of the other coronaviruses such as flu and common cold

Ironic that poverty might be protecting them against the Covid-19 variant.

Arghus · 08-09-2020 05:35PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

No, it really isn't. I'm not sure where you get your data from but I can tell you a "fact" as well that it is far from inevitable.

Okay, we'll leave it for a few weeks and see where we are then.

What I state to be facts there are exactly that: cases are up and are hospital admissions. If you don't want to acknowledge basic reality there isn't much point debating.

thisNthat · 08-09-2020 05:35PM

This is the official report released by the HSE on the 07/09/2020.
Summary characteristics of confirmed COVID-19 cases notified in Ireland up to midnight 05/09/2020.

On page 11 it states that 1677 of the total number of deaths (of a total of 1777) were from people who had underlying clinical conditions.
The total number of deaths in Ireland from Coronavirus up-to 05/09/2020 from people who had no underlying clinical conditions was 100.
The median age of death (years) is 84.

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19_Daily_epidemiology_report_(NPHET)_07092020%20-%20Website%20V2.pdf

Benimar · 08-09-2020 05:35PM

307 cases.

1 death.

DellyBelly · 08-09-2020 05:35PM

307 cases today..I said it the minute the schools go back te numbers would skyrocket...proven right...that is the largest number in ages..

Vicxas · 08-09-2020 05:36PM

Welp.

Eod100 · 08-09-2020 05:37PM

Poster who had the figures was fairly spot on. Not looking good for Dublin

statesaver · 08-09-2020 05:37PM

DellyBelly wrote: »

307 cases today..I said it the minute the schools go back te numbers would skyrocket...proven right...that is the largest number in ages..

Gold star for DellyBelly

kippy · 08-09-2020 05:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

This is probably why Africa has escaped this so far. It is a much younger population than Europe.

Main reason for that unfortunately is their life expectancy is generally much lower than that of Europe for obvious reasons.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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