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COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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  • #1742
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Yeah even in my own work theres a few who keep saying oh things will never got back to normal, a vaccine is a dream thats years away. Try to explain the trials to them and its just oh no but the government said its years away.

    Nobody actually researches for themselves

    Yup completely. Even a quick Google would help :)

    Try telling people that and then they'll start rambling about not trusting it because it would be "rushed". Reddit Ireland is notorious for this too.


  • #1743
    Hmmzis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    seanb85 wrote: »
    They seemed to have a better geographical spread for their phase 3, Oxford was mostly UK based until they sorted trials in Brazil and South Africa. Wouldn't be too surprising if Pfizer are getting a better early read as infections arise.

    Has the EU negotiated a deal for for Pfizer's?

    If Pfizer keeps up the enrollment pace they would be done with the prime shots by end of this week. They enrolled 5k last week and only had 5k to go to get the full 30k primed. Since they have a 14 day booster schedule, they should be well into the booster shots as well. In the next week or two they should be able to start counting the infections.


  • #1744
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    Hmmzis wrote: »
    If Pfizer keeps up the enrollment pace they would be done with the prime shots by end of this week. They enrolled 5k last week and only had 5k to go to get the full 30k primed. Since they have a 14 day booster schedule, they should be well into the booster shots as well. In the next week or two they should be able to start counting the infections.

    Do you think they'll be ready to publish any data this or next month?


  • #1745
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I think oxford plan to publish something later this month


  • #1746
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Gael23 wrote: »
    I think oxford plan to publish something later this month

    Apparently so or in October. Either way it's in the next few weeks. Exciting stuff!


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  • #1747
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Yeah even in my own work theres a few who keep saying oh things will never got back to normal, a vaccine is a dream thats years away. Try to explain the trials to them and its just oh no but the government said its years away.

    Nobody actually researches for themselves


    Even though Russia and China have already rolled out a vaccine


  • #1748
    Hmmzis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    seanb85 wrote: »
    Do you think they'll be ready to publish any data this or next month?

    Unlikely to be this month, just not enough time left in the month. They'd have to get incredibly lucky for that. Think I saw someone on Reddit trying to add the numbers up and an optimistic scenario was 30 days for a 30k volunteer group in the US to get a statistically significant difference assuming a 100% effective vaccine. Towards the end of next month would be more likely to get some results from them.


  • #1749
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Hmmzis wrote: »
    Unlikely to be this month, just not enough time left in the month. They'd have to get incredibly lucky for that. Think I saw someone on Reddit trying to add the numbers up and an optimistic scenario was 30 days for a 30k volunteer group in the US to get a statistically significant difference assuming a 100% effective vaccine. Towards the end of next month would be more likely to get some results from them.

    Who are you referring to here?


  • #1750
    Hmmzis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


      Gael23 wrote: »
      Who are you referring to here?

      Ah, sorry, meant to reference Pfizer/BioNTech with that comment.


    1. #1751
      ACitizenErased
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


      Pfizers seem very confident today. 60% chance it’ll be good to go in October.


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    3. #1752
      is_that_so
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


      funnydoggy wrote: »
      The government should come out and say that a vaccine isn't years away. Would help quell the stuff I hear daily from customers and colleagues in work.

      "We won't be traveling for about 5 years!"

      "I'd say we'll be like this for another 2 years!"

      Etc.
      I don't think our lot have been doing it, nor most governments. McConkey and co yep and random scaremongering guesses & claims from all over the internet have fed it even more so. Here they've tended to just follow the NPHET script, with few predictions.


    4. #1753
      FutureTeashock
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 439 ✭✭FutureTeashock


      ACitizenErased wrote: »
      Pfizers seem very confident today. 60% chance it’ll be good to go in October.

      No one in their right mind will take a vaccine developed in 7 months.

      Insanity! :eek:


    5. #1754
      Marhay70
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭Marhay70


      FutureTeashock wrote: »
      No one in their right mind will take a vaccine developed in 7 months.

      Insanity! :eek:

      Good man, that's us told then.


    6. #1755
      funnydoggy
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


      FutureTeashock wrote: »
      No one in their right mind will take a vaccine developed in 7 months.

      Insanity! :eek:

      Have you read/followed along to anything vaccine related in the last few months?

      These aren't rushed.


    7. #1756
      noserider
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭noserider


      FutureTeashock wrote: »
      No one in their right mind will take a vaccine developed in 7 months.

      Insanity! :eek:


      Here we go again, the pattern repeats itself


    8. #1757
      FutureTeashock
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 439 ✭✭FutureTeashock


      noserider wrote: »
      Here we go again, the pattern repeats itself

      Just like with the failed Covid tracker app, the majority of people will see sense and refuse this rushed vaccine developed at break neck speed.

      Just watch. :o


    9. #1758
      stevek93
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


      FutureTeashock wrote: »
      No one in their right mind will take a vaccine developed in 7 months.

      Insanity! :eek:

      Do you know a coronavirus vaccine has been in development since the SARS outbreak in 2002?


    10. #1759
      Dressoutlet
      Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Dressoutlet


      FutureTeashock wrote: »
      No one in their right mind will take a vaccine developed in 7 months.

      Insanity! :eek:

      I will take the vaccine as soon as its offered to me. In fairness though, I'd nearly ask Putin to mail me a dose of their vaccine at this stage. Can't be much worse for my health than dealing with stupid Irish people. (yes I am Irish, born and bred)


    11. #1760
      ACitizenErased
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


      stevek93 wrote: »
      Do you know a coronavirus vaccine has been in development since the SARS outbreak in 2002?

      Wait until they hear that they’re repurposed SARS vaccines!


    12. #1761
      is_that_so
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


      ACitizenErased wrote: »
      Wait until they hear that they’re repurposed SARS vaccines!
      But that's like a cookery show - here's one I made earlier!


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    14. #1762
      FutureTeashock
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 439 ✭✭FutureTeashock


      stevek93 wrote: »
      Do you know a coronavirus vaccine has been in development since the SARS outbreak in 2002?

      In that case, I wish you luck with your vaccine.

      I have a feeling you're going to need it.


    15. #1763
      stevek93
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


      FutureTeashock wrote: »
      In that case, I wish you luck with your vaccine.

      I have a feeling you're going to need it.

      We all need to to keep each other safe.


    16. #1764
      FutureTeashock
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 439 ✭✭FutureTeashock


      stevek93 wrote: »
      We all need to to keep each other safe.

      You are free to take whatever you choose, I won't be partaking under ANY circumstance.

      You come and try to make me take that crap!


    17. #1765
      funnydoggy
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


      FutureTeashock wrote: »
      You are free to take whatever you choose, I won't be partaking under ANY circumstance.

      You come and try to make me take that crap!




      Anti-vaxxers love to repeat the same things over and over again. We heard you the first time.


      This is a science based thread.


    18. #1766
      hmmm
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


      Oxford vaccine trial halted by Astra Zeneca for a safety review
      https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-study-put-on-hold-due-to-suspected-adverse-reaction-in-participant-in-the-u-k/

      The anti-vax gob****es will leap on this, but it shows the process works and speed is not being prioritised over safety.


    19. #1767
      stevek93
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


      FutureTeashock wrote: »
      You are free to take whatever you choose, I won't be partaking under ANY circumstance.

      You come and try to make me take that crap!

      Aren’t you a lovely chap. :)


    20. #1768
      funnydoggy
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


      hmmm wrote: »
      Oxford vaccine trial halted by Astra Zeneca for a safety review
      https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-study-put-on-hold-due-to-suspected-adverse-reaction-in-participant-in-the-u-k/

      The anti-vax gob****es will leap on this, but it shows the process works and speed is not being prioritised over safety.




      Exactly. They paused it themselves. A case of "right lads let's take a look at it before we publish our findings soon"


      Great to see.


    21. #1769
      FutureTeashock
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 439 ✭✭FutureTeashock


      stevek93 wrote: »
      Aren’t you a lovely chap. :)

      I'm fully wise to your agenda and prepared to deal with you as necessary.

      Many more are awake than you realise.:o


    22. #1770
      funnydoggy
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


      FutureTeashock wrote: »
      I'm fully wise to your agenda and prepared to deal with you as necessary.

      Many more are awake than you realise.:o


      Are you with the WIGGYWAGGY1 crowd?


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    24. #1771
      Hego Damask
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


      If anything it makes me feel more confident about this Oxford vaccine.


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