COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

FutureTeashock

funnydoggy wrote: »

Are you with the WIGGYWAGGY1 crowd?

What nonsense are you spouting?

I thought you were supposed to be "science based"? (whatever that means),

hmmm

https://twitter.com/florian_krammer/status/1303452081840435200

irishgeo

FutureTeashock wrote: »

What nonsense are you spouting?

I thought you were supposed to be "science based"? (whatever that means),

Your spouting some nonsense yourself with your anti vaccine crap.

FutureTeashock

hmmm wrote: »

https://twitter.com/florian_krammer/status/1303452081840435200

This sounds really serious.


Zero chance of a vaccine in 2020 now.

Thank GOD!

stephenjmcd

FutureTeashock wrote: »

This sounds really serious.


Zero chance of a vaccine in 2020 now.

Thank GOD!

There never was going to be any large rollout in 2020.

Secondly its a standard procedure. Goes to show people who were safety conscious that no short cuts are being taken.

The spokesperson described the pause as “a routine action which has to happen whenever there is a potentially unexplained illness in one of the trials, while it is investigated, ensuring we maintain the integrity of the trials.” The spokesperson also said that the company is “working to expedite the review of the single event to minimize any potential impact on the trial timeline.”

An individual familiar with the development said researchers had been told the hold was placed on the trial out of “an abundance of caution.”

Deeper Blue

FutureTeashock wrote: »

This sounds really serious.


Zero chance of a vaccine in 2020 now.

Thank GOD!

I'm still confident that one will be approved in 2020

FutureTeashock

FutureTeashock wrote: »

I'm fully wise to your agenda and prepared to deal with you as necessary.

Many more are awake than you realise.:o

Yep proof that care in the community is failing for some people alright.

Thierry12

FutureTeashock wrote: »

This sounds really serious.


Zero chance of a vaccine in 2020 now.

Thank GOD!

Rumours saying its ADE

Its finished for that vaccine if thats true

Sars1 was the same, kept happening in vaccines

hmmm

Thierry12 wrote: »

Rumours saying its ADE

Its finished for that vaccine if thats true

Sars1 was the same, kept happening in vaccines

You're just making stuff up now. There were no SARS 1 vaccines.

Micky 32

FutureTeashock wrote: »

Thank GOD!

Why so relieved when you said you’re not taking it anyway. Is it the thought of the virus being potentially eradicated that bothers you?

Deeper Blue

Thierry12 wrote: »

Rumours saying its ADE

Its finished for that vaccine if thats true

Sars1 was the same, kept happening in vaccines

Source?

funnydoggy

Thierry12 wrote: »

Rumours saying its ADE

Its finished for that vaccine if thats true

Sars1 was the same, kept happening in vaccines

Where are you reading these rumours?

stevek93

Thierry12 wrote: »

Rumours saying its ADE

Its finished for that vaccine if thats true

Sars1 was the same, kept happening in vaccines

The SARS vaccine ran out of funding once the virus die out.

Thierry12

hmmm wrote: »

You're just making stuff up now. There were no SARS 1 vaccines.

Ehhh?

How did Oxford get the head start?

Many vaccines were developed for Sars, many failed ones

stephenjmcd

BBC reporting that the investigation should be completed in a few days

hmmm

Thierry12 wrote: »

Ehhh?

How did Oxford get the head start?

Many vaccines were developed for Sars, many failed ones

Spoofer.

Thierry12

funnydoggy wrote: »

Where are you reading these rumours?

Reddit Covid19

stephenjmcd

Thierry12 wrote: »

Ehhh?

How did Oxford get the head start?

Many vaccines were developed for Sars, many failed ones

utter crap. It died out before anyone could get any sort of trials on the level we see now.

As a result no funding but plenty of work put in

Deeper Blue

Thierry12 wrote: »

Ehhh?

How did Oxford get the head start?

Many vaccines were developed for Sars, many failed ones

Didn't they just lose funding because the virus died out? Not the same as them "failing"

stephenjmcd

Let's not forget this is the second pause due to an adverse reaction so safety is number one concern.

First pause only lasted a few days as vaccine wasn't found to be the cause.

Like i said BBC reporting investigation expected to be completed in a few days

Thierry12

hmmm wrote: »

Spoofer.

Your annoying, honestly

Early Sars and Mers vaccines showed signs of ADE

Read up on it, I'm not making it up, it's there

Alot of researchers have warned Covid19 vaccine could cause ADE, low risk, but possible

Oxford vaccine hasnt looked great since May when they released data in the monkeys only getting partial immunity ( still got sick ) and evidence the vaccine didnt stop you infecting others

Lets not pretend its been perfect sailing throughout

Hope its not ADE btw

ACitizenErased

The fact they’re pausing the entire trial for 1 adverse event shows how serious they’re taking the safety

Thierry12

stephenjmcd wrote: »

utter crap. It died out before anyone could get any sort of trials on the level we see now.

As a result no funding but plenty of work put in

Read the research papers

Thierry12

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The fact they’re pausing the entire trial for 1 adverse event shows how serious they’re taking the safety

When you plan on vaccinating 6 billion people and some can't take a paracetamol without flaring up, you can see the issues they face

Charles Babbage

Also reported here
https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-study-put-on-hold-due-to-suspected-adverse-reaction-in-participant-in-the-u-k

They are obviously doing things properly and the investigation will show what is going on.

Hmmzis

Reuters is reporting the volunteer has transverse myelitis, expected to recover:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-astrazeneca/astrazeneca-puts-leading-covid-19-vaccine-trial-on-hold-over-safety-concern-idUSKBN25Z392

Could be a number of reasons for it, including none at all:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/transverse-myelitis/symptoms-causes/syc-20354726

I can see why they halted the trial, myeline autoimmune attacks (GBS) sometimes happen from just about any vaccine out there, also the wild type viral infections can cause it. If the Reuters source is accurate, it's not ADE.

hmmm

From reading about this, the biggest issue they are going to face is trying to find out whether this was caused by a reaction to the vaccine, or happened for some other reason. Which is presumably why they are going through their data and the data from all the other trials. When you've tens of thousands of people taking part in trials, things will happen.

The only good thing is that there are going to be lots of experts on transverse myelitis around later today, so we're sorted.

Thierry12

hmmm wrote: »

From reading about this, the biggest issue they are going to face is trying to find out whether this was caused by a reaction to the vaccine, or happened for some other reason. Which is presumably why they are going through their data and the data from all the other trials. When you've tens of thousands of people taking part in trials, things will happen.

The only good thing is that there are going to be lots of experts on transverse myelitis around later today, so we're sorted.

On that expert thing

What are your medical qualifications btw?

Your a very frequent poster in here and have alot of presumptions and opinions

hmmm

Thierry12 wrote: »

On that expert thing

What are your medical qualifications btw?

I don't claim to be an expert.

Go on tell us what you've googled about myelitis, I know you're dying to tell us.

Thierry12

hmmm wrote: »

I don't claim to be an expert.

Go on tell us what you've googled about myelitis, I know you're dying to tell us.

You do the same