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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭emaherx


    timple23 wrote: »
    Pretty strong money considering its just a bracket fingerbar and hydraulic motor compared to boom etc. Would it be possible to gunter a fingerbar mower to a front loader with a hydraulic motor?

    I had considered that too.

    Clontrac sell a finger bar including motor by itself for €1000 and I've seen much cheaper ones online from some of the Alibaba type sites.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    What is the boom performance on it?
    Have a big telescopic version here and build quality still embaresses brand new jcb's with nearly 7k hrs on it.

    I've no idea yet. I'm waiting for a lad to sort euro brackets on the headstock but I've driven in and out if the sheep shed on her right and she manages beautifully so I'll be able to reverse out and fill the trailer no bother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    hopeso wrote: »
    Sure what else could she be looking for when she asked for an extending boom with good rubber on it? :rolleyes: :D

    I reckon I'm going to be using that one:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭lab man


    timple23 wrote: »
    Was it just a book that was scanned or an actual pdf that you can search for the part you need info on?

    It's a pdf that's coming but I wanted an actual book but at 250 I'll stick with the pdf an get used to it I suppose I loaded wat came on an email today but it don't fit properly on the phone so it's a 2 week waiting game


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    I'll have to wait till I get the grab on her to see how the grab opens and closes.

    Whatever works the quick attach is what will work the grab.

    Have you many attachments to go on it? You'll loose out on the handiness of the quick attach with the bracket you're making up. Would it be much more work to put new brackets on what you have?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Looks a decent headstock on it already,changing the brackets on existing attachments may be an option. What size grab do you think it would manage?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Looks a decent headstock on it already,changing the brackets on existing attachments may be an option. What size grab do you think it would manage?

    I don't know what weight each size of grab would be. I do know that the back end begins to get jumpy when moving pallets of fertilizer


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Is it a matbro or a Kramer?


  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭einn32


    Said I'd post herselfs wedding anniversary present. Yeah, i know, I'm dead:D
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    Good tyre's anyway, about 8'6" in height.
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    Cab view is good, much better than a side mounted. Need to replace lefthand rear view mirror alright.
    796Ks9w.jpg The control centre. Everything needed on the joystick. Accelerator and brake on the floor, and handbrake, won't move till the handbrake is off. The toggle cylinder selects forward and reverse, top button extends the boom and middle retracts it. I'll have to wait till I get the grab on her to see how the grab opens and closes.

    I'm sure she'll be thrilled...

    Drove the same I think on a farm I worked on in Ireland. She was brought in from England. Great little machine. She was in use every day. The engine was rebuilt when bought and it gave some head gasket trouble while I was there. Deutz engine.

    Other than that the usual hydraulic hose leaks. Make sure everything is tied out of the way. One thing was there are hoses inside the boom that leaked. It was a big job to get access to them. The extra lever I didn't mind after a while for operating the shear grab which was a dream on it. Lovely view from the cab and can open most of the windows up. Well wear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    Said I'd post herselfs wedding anniversary present. Yeah, i know, I'm dead:D
    The control centre. Everything needed on the joystick. Accelerator and brake on the floor, and handbrake, won't move till the handbrake is off. The toggle cylinder selects forward and reverse, top button extends the boom and middle retracts it. I'll have to wait till I get the grab on her to see how the grab opens and closes.

    I'm sure she'll be thrilled...

    Smashing loader, would love 1 of them myself, well wear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    I probably should post an update too!

    That's a 16ft high shed and it goes a few feet above that.
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    This is the criticism I'd have. It's not really suited for behind electric fences. By right there'd need to be blade going 2 foot below the drive where it's attached to the arm.
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    This is really what it's suited for. Leylandi and garden hedges.
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    Job done on a hawthorn hedge.
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    Verdict. It's ok. It's not a flail hedgecutter though nor will it be competition. It's slow and you have to be careful with it.
    Pro's. If it does block on the blade, nothing breaks. Just stop the lever for the blade. Back out and turn on again.


    If you flip the blade the whole way around so that the top is facing the ground would it not be better for behind the fence? or will it no go the whole way around?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,078 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Panch18 wrote: »
    If you flip the blade the whole way around so that the top is facing the ground would it not be better for behind the fence? or will it no go the whole way around?

    It's only bolted on with four bolts.
    Could do but then I'd be driving in reverse cutting along the wire. And the blade would need a lot of watching and it'd only do sides and maybe ground when extended enough out from tractor. It's an idea though. A swivel bracket could be made.


  • Registered Users Posts: 403 ✭✭ml100


    It's only bolted on with four bolts.
    Could do but then I'd be driving in reverse cutting along the wire. And the blade would need a lot of watching and it'd only do sides and maybe ground when extended enough out from tractor. It's an idea though. A swivel bracket could be made.
    No, not take the head off just extend the head tilt ram so that the end of the finger bar that is pointing up in the picture is pointing down!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Whatever works the quick attach is what will work the grab.

    Have you many attachments to go on it? You'll loose out on the handiness of the quick attach with the bracket you're making up. Would it be much more work to put new brackets on what you have?

    Yeah, I'd be using a good few bits on the tractor loader so I'll be using those on this so it's easier to just make an attachment on the front for euro brackets.
    Mooooo wrote: »
    Looks a decent headstock on it already,changing the brackets on existing attachments may be an option. What size grab do you think it would manage?

    She would be able to take a 6' I reckon but I'll stick with the 4'6" I have. I'll be able to use the tractor if she breaks down or burst a hose.
    Is it a matbro or a Kramer?

    She's a Kramer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,078 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    ml100 wrote: »
    No, not take the head off just extend the head tilt ram so that the end of the finger bar that is pointing up in the picture is pointing down!

    That's the position it'd be if I could get the head pointed down. That's full extended ram.

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    I think maybe the company did actually think along these lines.
    This is a 30? degree attachment to bring it down further and give extra height crowning. It's an accessory they make as an add on.
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    It's not quite vertical now. But it's that stub of a head that I'll have to see if it can go anymore before another attachment is made or ram extended.

    Getting there..:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭Red Sheds


    That's the position it'd be if I could get the head pointed down. That's full extended ram.

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    I think maybe the company did actually think along these lines.
    This is a 30? degree attachment to bring it down further and give extra height crowning. It's an accessory they make as an add on.
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    It's not quite vertical now. But it's that stub of a head that I'll have to see if it can go anymore before another attachment is made or ram extended.

    Getting there..:D

    I bought the same one last year and agree with your views on it. The drive shaft on mine snapped on second day of use when it went into too heavy of a crop, seems the slip clutch didn't work quick enough. I've welded it together again but haven't tried it yet to see if it will work. I find you have to be on very level ground to get an even finish on top of the hedge as any bump or hole the tractor goes into is greatly magnified on the cutter arm, because its such a long reach.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,078 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Red Sheds wrote: »
    I bought the same one last year and agree with your views on it. The drive shaft on mine snapped on second day of use when it went into too heavy of a crop, seems the slip clutch didn't work quick enough. I've welded it together again but haven't tried it yet to see if it will work. I find you have to be on very level ground to get an even finish on top of the hedge as any bump or hole the tractor goes into is greatly magnified on the cutter arm, because its such a long reach.

    Hydraulic slip clutch?

    There's no slip clutch on the drive shaft here and mine looks to be a standard pto shaft. I'd imagine something would go on the hydraulic pump side before the pto shaft would go.

    What sort of rev's had you on the pto shaft?


  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭Red Sheds


    Hydraulic slip clutch?

    There's no slip clutch on the drive shaft here and mine looks to be a standard pto shaft. I'd imagine something would go on the hydraulic pump side before the pto shaft would go.

    What sort of rev's had you on the pto shaft?

    Mine is the same as yours, its a standard pto shaft, What I meant was the silver disc that the drive shaft for the blade is attached to. It works like a cam to drive the blade and is attached to a hydraulic pump, I thought there was a slip clutch of some sort there. It was that shaft I broke.

    I found that the machine did stop the blade in some heavy growth a few times, but this particular time, back wheel of tractor went into a rut, arm lowered down about a foot in the hedge into too heavy of growth and bang. I was running it at about 480 - 500 rpm.

    I found you have to drive as slow as you can. If topping a hedge with alot of tall growth say from this season, better to go over it twice. I found cutting tall growth in one run leaves if lying on top of hedge which is unsightly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Finally got around to this after 6 months. Bought this low loader off a neighbour in the spring and had a heap of work to do on it. Structurally sound but needed a respray, new floor, new brake shoes, new brake rams, a rewire with new lights and the hoses for the brakes all replaced. Got it painted and the brake shoes in today. Another few starts should have it finished now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭mayota


    Looks great, what brand axels in her and are shoes expensive?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    mayota wrote: »
    Looks great, what brand axels in her and are shoes expensive?

    Adr hubs, I think the shoes were 300x90. Not too expensive, I think about 250 for the set. Were handy enough changed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭annubis


    Finally got around to this after 6 months. Bought this low loader off a neighbour in the spring and had a heap of work to do on it. Structurally sound but needed a respray, new floor, new brake shoes, new brake rams, a rewire with new lights and the hoses for the brakes all replaced. Got it painted and the brake shoes in today. Another few starts should have it finished now.
    Looks good. Did you paint yourself


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    annubis wrote: »
    Looks good. Did you paint yourself

    No, I sandblasted it alright. A friend did the painting for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,038 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Finally got around to this after 6 months. Bought this low loader off a neighbour in the spring and had a heap of work to do on it. Structurally sound but needed a respray, new floor, new brake shoes, new brake rams, a rewire with new lights and the hoses for the brakes all replaced. Got it painted and the brake shoes in today. Another few starts should have it finished now.

    looks well. the price must have been good to take it on with a list like that to do to it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    looks well. the price must have been good to take it on with a list like that to do to it.

    It wasn't that good in hindsight to be honest. The only thing is you know what you have when everything is done out of the new.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


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    Getting there now, just the side markers to wire up and get the floor on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,368 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Getting there now, just the side markers to wire up and get the floor on it.

    And a digger for on top


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Reggie. wrote: »
    And a digger for on top

    I have the digger for it already, here's a pic when I bought it, probably looks worse than it is. All the crossmembers and main frame was perfect on it. Nothing bent, broken or strangled.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,368 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    I have the digger for it already, here's a pic when I bought it, probably looks worse than it is. All the crossmembers and main frame was perfect on it. Nothing bent, broken or strangled.

    Amazing what a bit of TLC will do


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  • Registered Users Posts: 695 ✭✭✭3 the square


    Any one know navan plant and agri sales
    What they like to deal with ??
    Some nice machinery up on dd


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