Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Gael23 · 07-09-2020 06:19PM

People will not tolerate any restrictions at Christmas

Gael23 · 07-09-2020 06:20PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Shopping will be hell, sorting it early this year is the way to go.

Christmas dinner tends to bring extended families together

stephenjmcd · 07-09-2020 06:22PM

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1303019636372447243?s=19

What Username Guidelines · 07-09-2020 06:23PM

Gael23 wrote: »

People will not tolerate any restrictions at Christmas

Simon Harris said you can only put restrictions on people for a limited time. 6 months ago.

I’ve often thought we were “lucky” when this hit. Imagine the first case was mid November and they tried to lockdown with 2km limit and nothing but supermarkets open in mid December? Good luck.

Having said that, Christmas will roll around 9 months into this thing. As much as people want to say “no one will adhere”, plenty will. BLM protests - that’s it, no one is gonna adhere. Phil Hogan - game over, no one is gonna adhere. Etc. Etc.

Truth is, people know the dangers. Some ignore them, others take far too many precautions. Why that will change in the next couple of months is anyone’s guess. But it probably won’t change a whole lot tbh.

Jim_Hodge · 07-09-2020 06:25PM

Gael23 wrote: »

People will not tolerate any restrictions at Christmas

So you keep repeating. Let's wait and see. Anything is possible: there may not be any restrictions, there could be more restrictions, there could be riots on the streets, there could be general compliance...

We're getting the Christmas presents for our grandchildren sorted now, just in case.

Non solum non ambulabit · 07-09-2020 06:25PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Might explain some of the swab v postive test announced discrepancies maybe but I'm sceptical seeing as its a large difference but as per Gavin Reilly,

"The 103 “today” were reported 00:00 to 23:59 on Sunday. The swab figure is 11:00 Sat to 11:00 Mon."

We suspected that previously but then it appeared both figures were timed the same.

Pitch n Putt · 07-09-2020 06:30PM

Gael23 wrote: »

What were they saying about Christmas?

The fact they are even mentioning Christmas and the possibility of carrying on with this ridiculous over cautious approach until then is very worrying.

When is the penny going to drop that this is going to have to move on.

What’s the fascination with trying to hold on to this fear ridden restriction driven agenda?

No deaths for two weeks hospital admissions stable

100 cases a day average - who cares if there is 500 cases a day when that is pretty much all they are now.

CASES !!!.......

Wake up NPHET someone wake them up quickly the damage by inaction and unwillingness to let go is getting worse with every passing week.

Away With The Fairies · 07-09-2020 06:30PM

Watching another video from Dr John Campbell and he was sharing loads of positivity. I didn't watch all of it but one thing he said which I'm happy to hear is the body clears the virus and it's not like HIV.

07-09-2020 06:30PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

More sh!tty news to poo poo.

https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1303017107496603653?s=20

Article does not match the comment from the twitter user. 3 patients stool samples tested positive up to six days after respiratory symptoms were clear. Long term gut infection?

Roger_007 · 07-09-2020 06:32PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Santy has Corona.
So he wont be able to deliver the toys this year

Is the North Pole on the green list?

Goldengirl · 07-09-2020 06:32PM

Onesea wrote: »

International travel, sitting at the table at a pub and not being allowed into my kids school are the only things effecting me here in Norway. Everything else is normal, people don't social distance here, maybe for the first week or two of this debacle.

Also supplemented with Vit D routinely because of low light levels .

majcos · 07-09-2020 06:36PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

I assume that all people who have positive tests are retested to confirm that the initial result wasn’t a false positive. This is normal procedure for any diagnostic tests. Otherwise they would be treating screening tests as diagnostic tests and that would not be good practice.
It would be useful to know how many people were tested rather than the total number of tests.
They should also retest a proportion of negative results to ensure that they are not getting false negatives.

No. Not tested twice. There was double testing initially as assays were being validated etc. but it is not usual to test twice now for most patients. Might be done in the case of an unexpected positive in very selected situations but not typically for every positive result.

With negatives, also not routinely tested twice but second would be done in cases where there remained a clinical suspicion of Covid. For example, in a patient who presented with a fever without another clear explanation or someone who has respite symptoms with features of viral pneumonitis on a chest x-ray. Repeat also testing more likely to be performed in critical care areas.

If initial test was done too soon following exposure in case of a close contact, a second test should be done.

Some repeat testing may be done in the context of research project as well but majority not retested.

wadacrack · 07-09-2020 06:43PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Santy has Corona.
So he wont be able to deliver the toys this year

He had it last year, led to a super spreading event in China . Can hopefully deliver lots of vitamin D and Saliva tests worldwide

GooglePlus · 07-09-2020 06:44PM

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

The fact they are even mentioning Christmas and the possibility of carrying on with this ridiculous over cautious approach until then is very worrying.

When is the penny going to drop that this is going to have to move on.

What’s the fascination with trying to hold on to this fear ridden restriction driven agenda?

No deaths for two weeks hospital admissions stable

100 cases a day average - who cares if there is 500 cases a day when that is pretty much all they are now.

CASES !!!.......

Wake up NPHET someone wake them up quickly the damage by inaction and unwillingness to let go is getting worse with every passing week.

It's mad that people on here know what to do and they don't..

Ohmeha · 07-09-2020 06:46PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Think they need to get this out more, it is an issue. An awful lot just dont wear them correctly.
https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1303009798707990529?s=19

After their last appeal two weeks ago I haven't seen any improvement around Dublin city inside the shops and on the DART. Too much touching, wearing below the nose, wearing below the chin and still noticeable amounts of people of all ages (particularly the younger ones who you know don't have any underlying conditions) brazenly not wearing anything and being let away with it with no evidence of enforcement. I expect when the health system starts to creak come November we will belatedly see on the spot fines actually happening and retailers refusing entry

caveat emptor · 07-09-2020 06:46PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

More sh!tty news to poo poo.

https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1303017107496603653?s=20

Deleted User wrote: »

Article does not match the comment from the twitter user. 3 patients stool samples tested positive up to six days after respiratory symptoms were clear. Long term gut infection?

Which study are you referring to? Nice pooh-pooh.

This is the one linked in the article.
https://www.gastrojournal.org/action/showPdf?pii=S0016-5085%2820%2930282-1

Results

From February 1 to 14, 2020, among all of the 73 hos- pitalized patients infected with SARS-CoV-2, 39 (53.42%), including 25 male and 14 female patients, tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 RNA in stool, as shown in Supplementary Table 1. The age of patients with positive results for SARS-CoV-2 RNA in stool ranged from 10 months to 78 years old. The duration time of positive stool results ranged from 1 to 12 days. Furthermore, 17 (23.29%) patients continued to have positive results in stool after showing negative results in respiratory samples.

However, in more than 20% of patients with SARS-CoV-2, we observed that the test result for viral RNA remained positive in feces, even after test results for viral RNA in the respiratory tract converted to negative, indicating that the viral gastrointestinal infection and potential fecal-oral transmission can last even after viral clearance in the respiratory tract. Therefore, we strongly recommend that rRT-PCR testing for SARS-CoV-2 from feces should be performed routinely in patients with SARS-CoV-2 and that transmission-based precautions for hospitalized patients with SARS-CoV-2 should continue if feces test results are positive by rRT-PCR testing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pooh-pooh

A pooh-pooh (also styled as poo-poo) is a fallacy in informal logic that consists of dismissing an argument as being unworthy of serious consideration.[3] Scholars generally characterize the fallacy as a rhetorical device in which the speaker ridicules an argument without responding to the substance of the argument.[4]

Goldengirl · 07-09-2020 06:46PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I heard Santa was sent on a course to deal with covid. So kids can visit Santa but probably with social distancing.

I heard Santa is taking Vit D.

JP Liz V1 · 07-09-2020 06:50PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Santy has Corona.
So he wont be able to deliver the toys this year

I thought Santy stopped drinking, he should stick to Corona Light or non alcoholic lager :P

podgeandrodge · 07-09-2020 06:51PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Watching another video from Dr John Campbell and he was sharing loads of positivity. I didn't watch all of it but one thing he said which I'm happy to hear is the body clears the virus and it's not like HIV.

Just looked up this "doctor" . Seriously, it's bollix carry on, regardless of the quality of his opinion, using that title when he's handing out Covid advice, regardless of his clarifications (i.e. the truth) later on.
In this context, use of the title is deliberately misleading to get more clicks than he would if he called himself Nurse John. FFS.

07-09-2020 06:54PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Which study are you referring to? Nice pooh-pooh.

This is the one linked in the article.
https://www.gastrojournal.org/action/showPdf?pii=S0016-5085%2820%2930282-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pooh-pooh

Only read the summary not the paper, however still no talk of long term infection in the paper, just that it can be detected in stool samples after it can no longer be detected is respiratory samples. Not what the twitter posted was represented the study to signify, where he implied long term gastrointestinal infections

podgeandrodge · 07-09-2020 06:54PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1303019636372447243?s=19

He should be asked whether he will advise on pubs opening soon, not whether they will. That's Govt decision...if there's a difference these days.

Goldengirl · 07-09-2020 06:57PM

PCros wrote: »

No surprise really.

https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1302980550723072002?s=20

Considering we are so high in case numbers per head of population we must be doing something right then .

spookwoman · 07-09-2020 07:00PM

Gov.ie Monday report is linking to Sundays numbers. Data taken from hub, some missing

Todays numbers 07/09/2020
102 New cases with 0 denotifications. Total = 29,774
0 Deaths with 0 denotification. Total = 1,777
Monday to Sunday average for week 131.57 with total of 921 cases.
Last week was avg 115.00 with Total of 807 cases.
Rolling Mon 05/09/2020 138.57/ Total = 970
Rolling Mon 31/08/2020 Average = 101.86. Total = 713

Briefing
• 56 cases are in Dublin, 11 are in Leitrim, six are in Galway, and 29 are located in Carlow, Cavan, Cork, Kerry, Limerick, Longford, Louth, Mayo, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Tipperary, Westmeath and Wexford

(05/09/20 GOV.IE) Taken from HUB Gov.ie statement linking to Sundays Number
Hospital 3427 +3
ICU 448 -
Healthcare workers 8,771 +29
Clusters 2,878+13
Cases Associated with Clusters ?
Median Age ?

(07/09/20 HUB) @18.00
ICU 6 -
Admissions and Discharged - -
Confirmed In Hospital 49-
Admission (24 hrs) 4
Discharged (24 hrs) 1

HSE operations report is published after 22.00hrs
06/09/2020

Number of Confirmed COVID-19 Cases Admitted across 29 acute sites
(Including CHI) 50 (+2)
Critical Care Beds 436 (-)
Critical Care Beds Open 345 (-2)
Occupied / Reserved 276 (-11)
Occupied Reserved C19 6 (-1)
Available 48 (+2)
Vacant General 442 (-126)
Vacant Critical Care Public 48 (+2)
Vacant Critical Care Paediatric 2 (-)
Vacant Critical Care Private 16(+4)
Confirmed Critical Care 6 / Suspected Critical Care 7
C19 Deaths 0 / Suspected Deaths 0
Confirmed Ventilated 6 / Suspected Ventilated 3

Transmission
(05/09/20 GOV.IE)
Community 30.2% -
Close Contact Confirmed 66.4% -
Travel 2.5% -
Unknown 0.9% +.1%

(07/09/20 Press release)
Community 19 Yesterday 23
Close Contact 48% 49± Yesterday 49% 54±

Testing No results on a Sunday
(06/09/20 Hub)
Total 900,179 +10,422
Hospital Total 331,224 2,107
Labs Total 568,955 +8,315
(07/09/20 Hub)
Total 906,432 +6,253
Hospital Total 333,388 2,164
Labs Total 573,044 +4,089
Total Positive 33,190 +406 %Positive 3.7% - Week% Positive 1.6% +.3

|Age Affected|Incr|Hospitalised|Incr
(05/09/2020 Gov.ie) Taken from Hub Gov.ie linking to Sunday
0-4|328|+7|26|-
5-14|640|+4|20|-
15-24|2,792|+31|83|-
25-34|5,203|+25|209|-
35-44|5,183|+26|278|-
45-54|5,148|+19|459|+1
55-64|3,581|+10|505|-
65+|6773|+16|1846|+2
?|24|-|1|-
Missing off Hub. Yesterdays numbers
65-74|1,962|+15|601|+3
75-84|2,381|+7|760|-
85+|2,414|+3|483|-
?|24|-|1|-

County|05/09/2020|Incr|04/09/2020|Incr|County|05/09/2020|Incr|04/09/2020|Incr
Carlow|255|+1|254|+1|Cavan|900|-|900|+5
Clare|479|+1|478|+1|Cork|1,660|+5|1655|+6
Donegal|547|+2|545|+5|Dublin|13,812|+68|13,744|+133
Galway|534|+9|525|+7|Kerry|340|-|340|+2
Kildare|2,320|+9|2,311|+18|Kilkenny|416|+3|413|-
Laois|396|+4|392|+2|Leitrim|90|+1|89|+2
Limerick|817|+13|804|+13|Longford|304|+1|303|-
Louth|840|-|840|+2|Mayo|592|+1|591|+2
Meath|920|+1|919|+6|Monaghan|578|-|578|+3
Offaly|644|+3|641|+8|Roscommon|365|+1|364|-
Sligo|158|-|158|+1|Tipperary|728|+2|726|+2
Waterford|211|+2|209|+5|Westmeath|695|+1|694|-
Wexford|310|+5|305|-|Wicklow|761|+5|756|+7

wadacrack · 07-09-2020 07:09PM

https://twitter.com/ronan_glynn/status/1303031593687298049

Plumbthedepths · 07-09-2020 07:10PM

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ronan_glynn/status/1303031593687298049

That phrase is getting overused at this stage.

Away With The Fairies · 07-09-2020 07:11PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Just looked up this "doctor" . Seriously, it's bollix carry on, regardless of the quality of his opinion, using that title when he's handing out Covid advice, regardless of his clarifications (i.e. the truth) later on.
In this context, use of the title is deliberately misleading to get more clicks than he would if he called himself Nurse John. FFS.

How is it misleading when he has a PhD?

shinzon · 07-09-2020 07:14PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/health/2020/0907/1163645-covid-hospital-figures/?fbclid=IwAR0F0EcM_mW-XvnZl8dr-LhIRU_EFT9z0AseTGubjTDnfw-lXdXf9exiQqM

Ireland is heading "very slowly, but steadily and progressively into another epidemic" according to a consultant in infectious diseases at Beaumont Hospital in Dublin.

Speaking on RTÉ's Drivetime, Professor Sam McConkey said the number of Covid-19 cases in Ireland are "very concerning".

He said the last two months has shown that things are getting worse here with 10 new cases a day or fewer not "back into triple figures ... unless we actually do things differently, in another two months it's going to be up at 1,000 and that is a disaster".

Professor McConkey warned that we are "heading slowly, very slowly, but steadily and progressively into another epidemic in our midst that will lead to ICU and deaths overwhelming the health service".

He said more people have been admitted to hospital over the last six days. "In two weeks' time, we will not only be seeing increased hospitalisations, but increased ICU admissions and two weeks after that, increased deaths."

Shin

Gael23 · 07-09-2020 07:15PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

So you keep repeating. Let's wait and see. Anything is possible: there may not be any restrictions, there could be more restrictions, there could be riots on the streets, there could be general compliance...

We're getting the Christmas presents for our grandchildren sorted now, just in case.

My family consists of 4 households and Christmas Day is a time to be together. Life is too short , particularly when you have .older people in the later years of their life.

Plumbthedepths · 07-09-2020 07:15PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

How is it misleading when he has a PhD?

My former English teacher has a PhD but I won't ask him for medical advice and he wouldn't allow people to think the Dr confers the right to offer medical advice.
Although I suspect he uses the term Dr as opposed to his medical qualification as a nurse because of the perception of credibility Dr implies. Just my opinion though.

JP Liz V1 · 07-09-2020 07:16PM

Every day is important, everyone take their own responsibility, take care

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