How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

Ninthlife wrote: »

Thats impressive. Whats the average turn around time for results.

Im pretty certain its a normal cold too

Had a family member tested lunchtime Saturday in Dublin, text results in 24 hours. Very impressive turnaround

JDD wrote: »

It seems we are dropping like flies

My 8 year old developed a sore thought on Saturday and an intermittent cough yesterday. Every cold she has ever caught has always turned into a chesty cough (everyone's got a thing I guess) so I'm not concerned. She's at home from school today, though her sister went in. No temperature, just a cough, a runny nose and odd sneeze.

I rang the doctor and it seems his receptionist (mum of four, his receptionist for 20 years, no nonsense type lady) is fielding the calls. There must be loads of people ringing him as the phone was engaged for half an hour before I got through.

There is apparently loads of normal coughs going around - no surprise - so I'm to keep her home, let her rest, give calpol and if she there is no improvement tomorrow I'm to give them another call. Honestly I doubt she'll be better tomorrow even if it's just a common cough/cold - but I'll follow the rules and ring them again.

Seemed sensible advice.

Was it the receptionist who told you to keep her at home and call again tomorrow?
While I know it sounds like sound advice the receptionist shouldn’t be dishing it out.
My 7 year old was tested for the second time last week due to having a high temp. No other symptom.
Apparently even one symptom and doctors are obligated to refer for testing. I was upset as he had been tested in April and the temp was a 12hour thing but we had to comply with the guidelines.
Obviously not having a go at you but I would be uneasy of a receptionist making these types of decisions.

cant26 wrote: »

Was it the receptionist who told you to keep her at home and call again tomorrow?
While I know it sounds like sound advice the receptionist shouldn’t be dishing it out.
My 7 year old was tested for the second time last week due to having a high temp. No other symptom.
Apparently even one symptom and doctors are obligated to refer for testing. I was upset as he had been tested in April and the temp was a 12hour thing but we had to comply with the guidelines.
Obviously not having a go at you but I would be uneasy of a receptionist making these types of decisions.

Even if you have a cough, you have to get a test

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Five teachers in Suffolk have tested positive. School closed.

Teachers aren't meant to be near any other teachers, well for primary they shouldn't be and easy to implement.

s1ippy wrote: »

Great info here today all, glad I clicked. Nice to see relevant informative comments and not just idiotic personal attacks derailing the thread.

Yes agreed, I think Gerry Hatrick may be banned from here...

average_runner wrote: »

Teachers aren't meant to be near any other teachers, well for primary they shouldn't be and easy to implement.

This is known to be an airborne pathogen so even if they are 2 metres apart it ' matter if they dont have proper face coverings.

Ninthlife wrote: »

I asked the Principal should she test negative can she return to school. He said once she was well enough to attend it wouldnt be an issue. Also said Id have to sign a form stating we had followed all public health guidelines

Test is done, test ctr said normally 24hrs but up to 3 days for results

My kids got tested yesterday morning and just got the all clear results not long ago, just over 24 hiurs

nothing wrote: »

It's been shown to be airborne in small spaces with recirculated air style air conditioning systems (the study focused on a very long bus journey)

There are also many clusters that don't seem to be explainable if you don't take the possibility of airborne transmission into account - or at least consider that the 2m distance is BS in some circumstances...

Recently, here:

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/thirty-cases-of-covid-19-and-counting-linked-to-quebec-city-karaoke-bar-1.5086009

"... the bar was operating at 30 per cent capacity and that there were measures in place to make karaoke a safe activity – like sanitizing the mic between singers, and having plexiglass in place – but that might not have been enough.

He referred to a study recently published in the British Medical Journal, which suggests two metres of distance might be too close to keep someone safe from COVID-19 in certain situations.

"Breathing out, singing, coughing, and sneezing generate warm, moist, high momentum gas clouds of exhaled air containing respiratory droplets. This moves the droplets faster than typical background air ventilation flows, keeps them concentrated, and can extend their range up to 7-8 metres within a few seconds," the study reads.

"Add the fact that there are people singing in small spaces – if there’s little ventilation, then listen, we’ve got all the conditions for transmission to be facilitated," Girard said. "

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As an aside, I still don't understand that schools do not cancel all singing / choir activities for this year...

So a covid test here to be arranged as new cough. I am so sure it is a headcold.

As to the receptionist dishing out advice, it was the same a month ago when I rang regarding symptoms of a cold in my three year old. I was a little surprised, but it appears she had a checklist as she asked all the same questions this time around. I'm guessing the doctor has given her the go ahead to triage the calls made. So a mild cough, in conjunction with sneezing, in a child that has recently returned to a childcare/school setting, appears to not make the grade for a test. If she had a temperature, loss of taste or smell, was very tired or where the cough appeared to be worsening would appear to make the grade (at least, according to the questions she asked).

There must be some discretion given to doctors on whether they refer coughs on for testing? I'm not sure the doctor would allow the receptionist to ask those questions if in fact he was obliged to refer all new coughs for testing. That'd be pretty risky, certainly if someone else caught it from her over the next couple of days.

I have no issue with her being sent for a test if that's what the GP advised. But given it's unpleasant I'm not going to insist on it, if the doctor doesn't think it's warranted.

JDD wrote: »

As to the receptionist dishing out advice, it was the same a month ago when I rang regarding symptoms of a cold in my three year old. I was a little surprised, but it appears she had a checklist as she asked all the same questions this time around. I'm guessing the doctor has given her the go ahead to triage the calls made. So a mild cough, in conjunction with sneezing, in a child that has recently returned to a childcare/school setting, appears to not make the grade for a test. If she had a temperature, loss of taste or smell, was very tired or where the cough appeared to be worsening would appear to make the grade (at least, according to the questions she asked).

There must be some discretion given to doctors on whether they refer coughs on for testing? I'm not sure the doctor would allow the receptionist to ask those questions if in fact he was obliged to refer all new coughs for testing. That'd be pretty risky, certainly if someone else caught it from her over the next couple of days.

I have no issue with her being sent for a test if that's what the GP advised. But given it's unpleasant I'm not going to insist on it, if the doctor doesn't think it's warranted.

Look you did the right thing. You called your GP and are following their instructions. I just don’t think the receptionist should be triaging anyone! Fair enough ask the questions for the GP so the the GP can review and then follow up but I don’t think the sole responsibility should be put on the receptionist. With the greatest respect they are not qualified to make these calls.
My kids have cough variant asthma. Both medicated for it and so far the older lad who is 7 has been tested twice.
The second time was horrific for him because he knew what was coming and it was just generally scary. I don’t think I can make him do it a third time. I think if the situation arises again we will just fully isolate as a family for the two weeks and see what happens, then maybe test.

How long did it take from test to getting results? Test tomorrow

khalessi wrote: »

How long did it take from test to getting results? Test tomorrow

My son got one on a Friday afternoon. Got negative result Sunday morning.

He was told if it was positive he would get it quicker