Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Hand in Your Pants wrote: »

This country needs a curfew after what I seen in Cork this weekend, morans everywhere, no distancing, none of these will take it seriously to get the jab, close down the shutters on these morans and fine them 1500 euro if they are out on the street after nine o'clock

Why only 1500?

niallo27 wrote: »

I think its important to know are these hospitalizations a 1 night stay or are they close to ICU level.

Good to know perhaps more-so than important...

If you ‘have’ covid or not you are a potential spreader... of a life ending virus, a virus that will make you seriously ill, a virus that may make you mildly ill, or an asymptomatic virus you never knew you had... beyond fûcked up. If 2 years ago a filmmaker came up with this script they’d be laughed out of Hollywood.

Hand in Your Pants wrote: »

This country needs a curfew after what I seen in Cork this weekend, morans everywhere, no distancing, none of these will take it seriously to get the jab, close down the shutters on these morans and fine them 1500 euro if they are out on the street after nine o'clock

The Moran clan have really been getting a write up on boards this evening, second post complaining about them in a different context.

Goldengirl wrote: »

And those asymptomatic cases spread to some of their families and contacts.
Cases were wider than first degree contact .
Of course asymptomatic spread this discussion has been on a loop here for weeks with some posters despite what has been going on in the factories and clusters around the country.
It is purely an anti mask agenda .

That's scenario the study posted earlier examined.

Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak.

It's an anti loads of things agenda...:p

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

50 is tiny. We are in a pandemic that has gripped the planet and we have just 50 people currently in hospital. It will go up. In 3 months time you could be looking back at 50 as the good times.

Don't forget we had over 900 in April.

I know, but remember we had 900 at peak and then it started to drop, we now have 50 and it's increasing, while we have people waiting on trolleys, outpatient appointments going on and a flu season to contend with.
We can't afford to stop the health service like we did before.

Wolf359f wrote: »

I know, but remember we had 900 at peak and then it started to drop, we now have 50 and it's increasing, while we have people waiting on trolleys, outpatient appointments going on and a flu season to contend with.
We can't afford to stop the health service like we did before.

I’m waiting on a EMG study since late February or early March... ok, I’m not dying it’s an appraisal of a recovery rate but some chance with covid trends running upwards again and idiots being inconsiderate idiots.

Goldengirl wrote: »

I would be going on the slowly rising numbers in hospital .
Contrary to some opinion here on the thread , ( which is ill informed , imo , and just minimising ) the cases in hospital ARE sick with Covid , except for one or two unlucky cases .


Those not hospitalised are not as sick in general now as in March April as younger and thus have a milder illness ( let's not get into the possibility of complications) .

Only a matter of time if this upward trend continues before more over 45 s get infected and they are more st risk of serious illness requiring hospitalisation.

I don't disagree with you but don't know where you got that figure from , and really hope you are just guessing ! :0

Interesting, and not in a good way, to see how numbers in ICU in Italy, to take an example of a country where new cases are rising but not exploding, are doing:


14/8/20 56

20/8/20 68

31/8/20 94
3/9/20 120
6/9/20 133

Per HSE reports, in the last 7 days there were 13 confirmed cases (not admissions, confirmed hospital test results) in Beaumont alone.

niallo27 wrote: »

It was supposed to be 2 weeks, then 4 weeks, how long before we see icu numbers rise. They will rise of course but not on the scale we saw last march. It is a bit odd the icu numbers are stagnant after few thousands cases in the last few weeks.

I think it's impossible to say when exactly you'll start to see an uptick in those numbers. But you eventually will if hospital admissions continue to increase.

That in and of itself isn't an absolute disaster. It may be sustainable and manageable, but I wouldn't become too complacent about it either. It's a bit premature to be painting a picture of utter impending disaster, but I equally think it's foolhardy to take things for granted that simply may not have happened yet, especially, in my view, if the warning signs are already there.

I don't think things will get as bad as March and April and they wouldn't want to. We had nearly 900 people in hospital with this at the peak. Action will be taken, if necessary, before things are allowed get that bad again. But while the situation is a lot better than that now, we shouldn't use that - the absolute depths of the worst of it - as our reference point of concern and wilfully ignore current trends because the overall picture isn't as bad as that.

Hopefully hospital numbers won't continue on a trajectory of doubling every couple of weeks - it may not happen, I'm not without some hope - but if it does then the narrative is going to change again further down the road.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Per HSE reports, in the last 7 days there were 13 confirmed cases (not admissions, confirmed hospital test results) in Beaumont alone.

7 days ago Beaumont had 5 Covid patients, they now have 16. Looks like some of those confirmed cases could have been admitted. I doubt it's all broken legs or sprains turning up in A&E.

political analyst wrote: »

Why did hospital staff put the late Sally Maaz in a Covid ward?

I do not know the specific details but I have read in newspaper reports that she presented to hospital with respiratory symptoms so obviously was a suspected case.

She tested negative initially on admission but at the time of her admission in April, the validity of testing was even more in question then than it is now. Early testing had a higher proportion of false negative results so if staff looking after her were still suspicious that she had Covid based on her symptoms and pointers in other blood tests, then that might explain why she was placed on a Covid ward.

Being placed on a Covid ward does not necessarily mean she was placed in the same room as another patient who had Covid but I don’t know that for a fact.

She was tested two more times so I would presume that meant there was still a suspicion that she had Covid all along.

Drumpot wrote: »

I’ve been taking VIT D since February because of Dr John. It’s cheap and harmless once taken in reasonable doses and easily available. Really does make you wonder why it’s taken this long for any sort Of research being done on it.

SAGE and Age Action have been publicising this for months .
I quoted some Irish research here on this thread a few months aback about Vit D and its use for supporting immunity.
I will repost tomorrow when I find it .

CalamariFritti wrote: »

This has been common knowledge more or less since the start of this. In a roundabout way.
Very early on it was said that all ICU patients and covid deaths - without exception - had one thing in common. A strong vitamin D deficit.

Call me what you want, I know some will, but it was then that I began to realise this is all blown out of proportion. A super duper deadly virus that we turn the whole world upside down over. Only its grand when you take some vitamin d (cod liver oil).

Silly comment .
It's not " grand " at all but Vit D helps in immune response .
Maybe more of the elderly that some guys think were near to end of life might have survived if they had been on a good dose of Vit D .

Goldengirl wrote: »

Patients are not admitted without a negative test for Covid .
However some patients can be admitted through A&E with trauma for example and might test positive , but they are not the driving numbers of Covid patients .
I can't give you exact figures be ause I can only go by my experience but I am pretty sure it is the policy throughout the country.

Not every patient admitted to a hospital is tested for Covid.