Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

bpb101 · 06-09-2020 06:25PM

We should lockdown north dublin

^ The above opinion has nothing to do with covid

ACitizenErased · 06-09-2020 06:27PM

As of today Dublin has moved from 5th highest to 3rd highest in cases per 100,000 in the past 14 days.

Top 5:
Kildare 67
Carlow 60
Dublin 58
Tipperary 56
Limerick 55

spookwoman · 06-09-2020 06:36PM

Todays numbers 06/09/2020
138 New cases with 0 denotifications. Total = 29,672
0 Deaths with 0 denotification. Total = 1,777
Monday to Sunday average for week 131.57 with total of 921 cases.
Last week was avg 115.00 with Total of 807 cases.
Rolling Saturday 05/09/2020 117.86/ Total = 825
Rolling Saturday 29/08/2020 Average = 118.00. Total = 826

Briefing
• 68 are in Dublin, 13 in Limerick, 9 in Galway, 9 in Kildare, 5 in Cork, 5 in Wexford, 5 in Wicklow, and the remaining 24 cases in Carlow, Clare, Donegal, Kilkenny, Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Mayo, Meath, Offaly, Roscommon, Tipperary, Waterford, and Westmeath

(04/09/20 GOV.IE)
Hospital 3424 +6
ICU 448 -
Healthcare workers 8,742 +23
Clusters 2,865+17
Cases Associated with Clusters 16,147 +40
Median Age 46

(06/09/20 HUB) @18.00
ICU 6 -1
Admissions and Discharged - 1
Confirmed In Hospital 49+1
Admission (24 hrs) 6
Discharged (24 hrs) 3

HSE operations report is published after 22.00hrs
05/09/2020

Number of Confirmed COVID-19 Cases Admitted across 29 acute sites
(Including CHI) 48 (+1)
Critical Care Beds 439 (-1)
Critical Care Beds Open 347 (-)
Occupied / Reserved 287 (+4)
Occupied Reserved C19 7 (-)
Available 46 (-3)
Vacant General 568 (+210)
Vacant Critical Care Public 46 (-3)
Vacant Critical Care Paediatric 2 (-1)
Vacant Critical Care Private 12(+6)
Confirmed Critical Care (7) / Suspected Critical Care 8
C19 Deaths 0 / Suspected Deaths 0
Confirmed Ventilated 6/ Suspected Ventilated 5

Transmission
(04/09/20 GOV.IE)
Community 30.2% +.1%
Close Contact Confirmed 66.4% -.3%
Travel 2.5% -
Unknown 0.9% +.1%

(06/09/20 Press release)
Community 23 Yesterday 54
Close Contact 39% 54± Yesterday 48% 111±

Testing No results on a Sunday
(06/09/20 Hub)
Total 889,757 +11,185
Hospital Total 329,117 2,672
Labs Total 560,640 +8,513
Total Positive 32,784 +154 %Positive 3.7% - Week% Positive 1.3% -

|Age Affected|Incr|Hospitalised|Incr
(04/09/2020 Gov.ie)
0-4|321|+6|26|-
5-14|636|+14|20|-
15-24|2,761|+48|83|+2
25-34|5,178|+51|209|-
35-44|5,157|+42|278|-
45-54|5,129|+28|458|-
55-64|3,571|+17|505|+1
65-74|1,962|+15|601|+3
75-84|2,381|+7|760|-
85+|2,414|+3|483|-
?|24|-|1|-

County|04/09/2020|Incr|03/09/2020|Incr|County|04/09/2020|Incr|03/09/2020|Incr
Carlow|254|+1|253|+2|Cavan|900|+5|895|-
Clare|478|+1|477|+3|Cork|1,655|+6|1649|+4
Donegal|545|+5|540|-|Dublin|13,744|+133|13,611|+24
Galway|525|+7|518|+1|Kerry|340|+2|338|+8
Kildare|2,311|+18|2,293|+13|Kilkenny|413|-|413|+6
Laois|392|+2|390|+3|Leitrim|89|+2|87|+1
Limerick|804|+13|791|+6|Longford|303|-|303|+1
Louth|840|+2|838|+6|Mayo|591|+2|589|-
Meath|919|+6|913|+2|Monaghan|578|+3|575|+2
Offaly|641|+8|633|+4|Roscommon|364|-|364|-
Sligo|158|+1|157|-|Tipperary|726|+2|724|+5
Waterford|209|+5|204|+4|Westmeath|694|-|694|-
Wexford|305|-|305|+3|Wicklow|756|7|749|-

StevenToast · 06-09-2020 06:36PM

bpb101 wrote: »

We should lockdown north dublin

^ The above opinion has nothing to do with covid

Greatest post on boards.ie

Blondini · 06-09-2020 06:44PM

bpb101 wrote: »

We should lockdown north dublin

^ The above opinion has nothing to do with covid

Ah heeyorrr leave it bleedin ouh...

growleaves · 06-09-2020 06:55PM

According to Killeen we are now 1-2 months into the second wave.

We're having roughly 0 deaths a day - so I guess its not as bad as the second wave of the Spanish flu which killed between 50 and 100 million people?

Wonder what the third and fourth waves will be like.

spookwoman · 06-09-2020 06:56PM

Rolling Week ending totals
Cases / Deaths
Day|Date|Cases|Deaths|Case Denot|Death Denot|Total Cases|Total Deaths|Week Avg|Week Tot
Sun|23/08/2020|61|0|0|0|27,969|1,777|104.57|732
|Totals|732|6|20|3|27,969| 1,777| 104.57| 732
|||||||||
Sun|30/08/2020|42|0|2|0|28,760|1,777|115.29|807
|Totals|807|0|16|0|28,760|1,777| 115.29|807
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Mon|31/08/2020|53|0|2|0|28,811|1,777|101.86|713
Tue|01/09/2020|217|0|3|0|29,025|1,777|119.71|838
Wed|02/09/2020|89|1|0|1|29,225|1,777|109.00|763
Thur|03/09/2020|95|0|3|0|29,206|1,777|109.29|765
Fri|04/09/2020|98|0|1|0|29,303|1,777|105.14|736
Sat|05/09/2020|231|0|0|0|29,534|1,777|117.86|825
Sun|06/09/2020|138|0|0|0|29,672|1,777|131.57|921
|Totals|921|1|9|1|29,572|1,777|131.57|921

Hospital Data (Gov.ie) 2 Days Behind
Day|Date|Hospital|Inc|ICU|Inc|Deaths|Inc|Healthcare workers|Inc|Clusters|Inc|Cases Assoc|Inc|
Fri|21/08/2020|3,396|+2|443|-|1,519|-|8,550|+8|2,579|+2|15,171|+32
|Totals|-|11|-|1|-|3|-|55|-|92|-|361
Fri|28/08/2020|3,394|+8|446|-|1,519|-1|8,621|+13|2,741|+7|15,743|+10
|Totals|-|-2|-|3|-|0|-|71|-|162|-|572
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Sat|29/08/2020|3,400|+6|446|-|1,519|-|8,628|+7|2,741|-|15,751|+8
Sun|30/08/2020|3,405|+5|446|-|1,519|-|8,637|+9|2,733|-8|15,764|+13
Mon|31/08/2020|3,411|+6|447|+1|1,519|-|8,660|+23|2,783|+50|15,902|+138
Tue|01/09/2020|3,415|+4|447|-|1,519|-|8,678|+18|2,810|+27|15,964|+62
Wed|02/09/2020|3,412|-3|447|-|1,519|-|8,695|+17|2,826|+16|16,025|+61
Thur|03/09/2020|3,418|+6|448|+1|1,519|-|8,719|+24|2,848|+22|16,107|+82
Fri|04/09/2020|3,424|+6|448|-|1,519|-|8,742|+23|2,865|+17|16,147|+40|
Totals|-|-|[B30[/B]|-|2|-|0|-|121|-|124|-|404|

HSE Beds (HSE.ie) Released approx. 10pm at night
CC = Critical Care
Day|Date|Total CC Beds|Inc|Tot CC Beds Open|Inc|Tot Occupied CC|Inc|Occupied Covid|Inc|Available Adult CC Public|Inc|Vacant Gen|Inc|Adult Pub|Inc|Paed|Inc|Private|Inc
Sat|23/08/20|428|-|353|+2|278|-1|6|-|52|+6|691|+226|52|+6|9|+3|13|+3
|||||||||||||||
Sat|29/08/20|431|+5|355|-|286|-3|5|-|42|+1|667|+377|42|+1|7|+1|18|+9
|||||||||||||||
Sun|30/08/20|435|+4|356|+1|281|-5|5|-|47|+5|530|-137|47|+5|6|-1|21|+3
Mon|31/08/20|436|+1|351|-5|276|-5|6|+1|41|-6|238|-292|41|-6|6|-|14|-7
Tue|01/09/20|437|+1|356|+5|287|+11|6|-|41|-|262|+24|41|-|1|-5|12|-2
Wed|02/09/20|441|+4|348|-8|287|-|6|-|39|-2|283|+21|39|-2|2|+1|9|-3
Thur|03/09/20|440|-1|350|+2|291|+4|7|+1|40|+1|299|+16|40|+1|1|-1|8|-1
Fri|04/09/20|440|-|347|-3|283|-8|7|-|49|+9|358|+59|49|+9|3|+2|6|-2
Sat|05/09/20|439|-1|347|-|287|+4|7|-|46|-3|568|+210|46|-3|2|-1|12|+6

HSE Critical Care Covid 19 Data(HSE.ie) Released approx. 10pm at night
CC = Critical Care
Day|Date|Confirmed CC|Suspected CC|Confirmed CC Deaths|Suspected CC Deaths|Confirmed Ventilated|Suspected Ventilated
Sat|22/08/20|6|6|0|0|3|3
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Sat|29/08/20|5|10|0|0|3|6
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Sun|30/08/20|5|14|0|0|4|6
Mon|31/08/20|6|11|0|0|5|1
Tue|01/09/20|6|15|0|0|6|5
Wed|02/09/20|6|9|0|0|6|5
Thur|03/09/20|7|6|0|0|6|3
Fri|04/09/20|7|7|0|0|6|4
Sat|05/09/20|7|8|0|0|6|5

Transmission week totals (Gov.ie 2 days behind and Daily Press Release)
Day|Date|Community|%|%Inc|Close Contact|%|%Inc|Travel%|Unknown
Thur|20/08/2020|11|30.5%|+.1%|57|66.6%|-|2.4%|-
Fri|21/08/2020|21|30.7%|+.2%|30|66.3%|-.3%|2.4%|0.7%
Sat|22/08/2020|15|30.7%|-|68|66.2%|-.1%|2.4%|0.7%
Sun|23/08/2020|16|30.5%-.2%|23|66.4%|+.2%|2.4%|0.7%
Totals||97|||315|-|-|-|
|-|-||-|-|-|-|-|-|
Thur|27/08/2020|12|30.2%|-|73|66.7%|-.1%|2.5%|0.7%
Fri|28/08/2020|8|30.3%|+.1%|66|66.4%|-.3%|2.5%|0.9%
Sat|29/08/2020|19|-30.2%|-.1%|32|66.5%|+.1%|2.5%|0.8%
Sun|30/08/20|6|30.1%|-.1%|15|60.7%|+.2%|2.5%|0.8%

|-|-||-|-|-|-|-|-|
Totals||91|||372|-|-|-|
Mon|31/08/20|14|30.2%|+.1%|27|66.6%|-.1%|2.5%|0.8%
Tue|01/09/20|19|30.1%|-.1%|103|66.6%|-|2.5%|0.8%
Wed|02/09/2020|8|30.1%|-|53|66.7%|+.1%|2.5%|0.8%
Thur|03/09/2020|16|30.1%|-|47% 45±|66.7%|-|2.5%|0.8%
Fri|04/09/2020|9|30.2%|+.1%|42% 41±|66.4%|-.3%|2.5%|0.9%
Sat|05/09/2020|54|-|-|48% 111|-|-|-|-
Sun|06/09/2020|23|-|-|39% 54|-|-|-|-

Totals||143|||434±

Total 316 base on 47% (45±) of Thursdays and 42% (41±) Fridays number and Saturdays 48% 111. Sunday 39% 54

No results released on a Sunday
Testing week totals (Hub)
Day|Date|Total|Hospital|Inc|Lab|Inc|Total Pos|%Pos|24 Tested|Week Tested|%Week Pos
Sat|22/08/20|767,359|289,900|2,270|477459|4,488|31,165|4.1%|6,758|57,670|1.3%
Sun|23/08/20|772,797|291,806|1,906|480,991|3,532|-|-|5,438|52,754|-
Totals||||17,499||35,255|773
Sat|29/08/20|824,712|308,879|2,523|515,833|7,314|21,934|3.9%|9,837|57,353|1.3%
Sun|30/08/20|830,474|311,193|2,314|519,281|3,448|-|-|5,762|57,677|-
Totals||||19,387||38,290|769

Mon|31/08/20|839,814|313,102|1,919|526,712|7,431|32,143|3.8%|9,340|62,179|1.2%
Tue|01/09/20|844,706|316,092|2,909|528,614|1,902|32,233|3.8%|4,892|62,056|1.2%
Wed|02/09/20|852,007|319,781|3,689|532,226|3,612|32,338|3.8%|7,301|61,709|1.2%
Thur|03/09/20|864,508|323,311|3,350|541,197|8,971|32,475|3.8%|12,501|61,936|1.2%
Fri|04/09/20|878,572|326,445|3,134|552,127|10,930|32,630|3.7%|14,064|63,697|1.3%
Sat|05/09/20|889,757|329,119|2,672|560,640|8,513|32,784|3.7%|11,185|64,942||1.35

Totals||||20,238||44,807|850

26/08/20 Hub discrepancy of 17, 7648 listed as 24hr total should be 7665.
05/09/20 Hub discrepancy of 64,942 listed as Week total should be 65,045
No Positive on Sundays

Age Affected 2 Days Behind
Day|Date|0-4|Inc|5-14|Inc|15-24|Inc|25-34|Inc|35-44|Inc|45-54|Inc|55-64|Inc|65-74|Inc|74-84|Inc|85+|Inc|?|Inc
Fr|21/08/20|270|+10|495|+10|2,377|+30|4,868|+36|4,868|-5|4,908|+25|3,439|+13|1,903|+6|2,329|+5|2,386|-|21|-
Totals|-|-|28|-|59|-|158|-|161|-|80|-|88|-|64|-|25|-|7|-|3|-|0
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Fri|28/08/20|290|+4|560|+11|2,579|+25|5,025|+29|5,036|+27|5,028|+19|3,503|+12|1,931|+3|2,352|+7|2,391|+3|23|-
Totals|-|-|20|-|65|-|202|-|157|-|168|-|120|-|64|-|28|-|23|-|5|-|2
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Sat|29/08/20|293|+3|562|+2|2,591|+12|5,031|+6|5,041|+5|5,035|+7|3,505|+2|1,931|-|2,355|+3|2,391|-|23|-|1|-
Sun|30|08|2020|291|+1|567|+5|2,602|+11|5,041|+10|5,052|+11|5,038|+3|3,514|+9|1,930|-1|2,356|+1|2,391|-|23|-
Mon|31|08|2020|301|+7|590|+23|2,650|+48|5,083|+42|5,084|+32|5,067|+29|3,529|+15|1,938|+8|2,363|+7|2,397|+6|23|-
Tue|01/09/2020|303|+2|602|+12|2,675|+25|5,094|+11|5,089|+5|5,078|+11|3,536|+7|1,940|+2|2,369|+6|2,402|+5|23|-
Wed|02/09/2020|307|+4|612|+10|2,694|+19|5,109|+15|5,105|+16|5,087|+9|3,545|+9|1,947|+7|2,372|+3|2,403|+1|24|+1
Thur|03/09/2020|315|+8|622|+10|2,713|+19|5,127|+18|5,115|+10|5,101|+14|3,554|+9|1,947|-|2,374|+2|2,411|+8|24|-
Fri|03/09/2020|321|+6|636|+14|2761|+48|5178|+51|5157|+42|5129|+28|3571|+17|1962|+15|2381|+7|2414|+3|24|-

Totals|-|-|31|-|76|-|182|-|153|-|121|-|101|-|68|-|31|-|29|-|23|-|1

Age Hospitalised 2 Days behind
Day|Date|0-4|Inc|5-14|Inc|15-24|Inc|25-34|Inc|35-44|Inc|45-54|Inc|55-64|Inc|65-74|Inc|74-84|Inc|85+|Inc|?|Inc
Fri|21/08/20|24|-|18|-|80|-|206|+2|279|-|456|-|503|-|596|-|753|-|480|-|1|-
Totals|-|-|0|-|0|-|-1|-|3|-|2|-|2|-|1|-|3|-|0|-|1|-|0

Fri|28/08/20|25|-|18|-|79|+1|208|+3|280|-|456|+2|504|+2|594|-|753|-|476|-|1|-
Totals|-|-|1|-|0|-|-1|-|2|-|1|-|0|-|1|-|-2|-|0|-|-4|-|0
Sat|29/08/20|26|+1|19|+1|81|+2|208|-|280|-|456|-|505|+1|594|-|754|+1|476|-|1|-
Sun|30/08/20|26|-|19|-|81|-|209|+1|282|+2|457|+1|505|-|595|+1|754|-|476|-|1|-
Mon|31/08/20|27|+1|19|-|82|+1|210|+1|281|-1|457|-|505|-|595|-|757|+3|477|+1|1|-
Tue|01/09/20|26|-1|19|-|82|-|210|-|280|-1|458|+1|504|-1|595|-|759|+2|481|+4|1|-
Wed|02/09/20|25|-1|19|-|80|-2|210|-|278|-2|458|-|503|-1|598|+3|759|-|481|-|1|-
Thur|03/09/20|26|+1|20|+1|81|+1|209|-1|278|-|458|-|504|+1|598|-|760|+1|483|+2|1|-
Fri|04/09/20|26|-|20|-|83|+2|209|-|278|-|458|-|505|+1|601|+3|760|-|483|-|1|-
Totals|-|-|1|-|2|-|4|-|1|-|-2|-|2|-|1|-|7|-|7|-|7|-|0

County (Gov.ie) 2 Days behind
County|RW21/8|28/8|inc|Total|29/8|inc|30/8|inc|31/8|inc|01/9|inc|02/9|inc|03/9|inc|04/9|Inc|Total
Carlow|16|244|+1|24|246|+2|246|-|247|+1|249|+2|251|+2|253|+2|254|+1|10
Cavan|1|892|-|9|892|-|892|-|895|+3|895|-|895|-|895|-|900|+5|8
Clare|12|461|+4|19|463|+2|465|+2|471|+6|473|+2|474|+1|477|+3|478|1|17
Cork|17|1,638|+4|26|1,638|-|1,639|+1|16,41|+2|1,643|+2|1,645|+2|1,649|+4|1655|+6|17
Donegal|9|537|+14|25|537|-|537|-|540|+3|540|-|540|-|540|-|545|+5|8
Dublin|293|13,330|+58|362|13,352|+22|13,380|+28|13,483|+103|13,535|+52|13,587|+52|13,611|+24|13744|+133|414
Galway|2|514|-|5|515|+1|515|-|517|+2|517|-|517|-|518|+1|525|+7|11
Kerry|4|328|+2|3|328|-|329|+1|328|-1|329|+1|330|+1|338|+8|340|+2|12
Kildare|171|2,243|+20|82|2,247|+4|2,247|-|2,272|+25|2,274|+2|2,280|+6|2,293|+13|2311|+18|68
Kilkenny|22|398|+2|6|400|+2|400|-|400|-|404|+4|407|+4|413|+6|413|-|13
Laois|15|383|+1|13|383|-|384|+1|384|-|385|+1|387|+2|390|+3|392|+2|9
Leitrim|0|85|-|0|85|-|85|-|85|-|85|-|86|-|87|+1|89|+2|4
Limerick|47|736|+14|40|742|+6|753|+11|770|+17|783|+13|785|+2|791|+6|804|+13|68
Longford|2|294|-|3|296|+2|300|+4|300|-|301|+1|302|+1|303|+1|303|-|9
Louth|13|825|+1|9|825|-|825|-|830|+5|830|-|832|+2|838|+6|540|+2|15
Mayo|2|588|+1|1|588|-|588|-|588|-|588|-|589|+1|589|-|591|+2|3
Meath|17|898|+1|20|898|-|899|+1|903|+4|905|+2|911|+6|913|+2|919|+6|21
Monaghan|7|570|-|18|570|-|570|-|573|+3|573|-|573|-|575|+2|578|+3|8
Offaly|10|622|-|15|623|+1|623|-|625|+2|626|+1|629|+3|633|+4|641|+8|19
Roscommon|4|362|-|9|362|-|636|+1|364|+1|364|-|364|-|364|-|364|-|2
Sligo|1|156|-|0|157|+1|157|-|157|-|157|-|157|-|157|-|158|+1|2
Tipperary|74|697|+6|60|696|-1|697|+1|714|+17|716|+2|719|+3|724|+5|726|+2|29
Waterford|13|189|-|8|189|-|189|-|196|+7|197|+1|200|+3|204|+4|209|+5|20
Westmeath|2|689|-|5|689|-|690|-|691|+1|692|+1|694|+2|694|-|694|-|5
Wexford|18|294|+8|29|294|-|294|-|298|+4|300|+2|302|+2|305|+3|305|-|11
Wicklow|0|743|+3|20|743|-|741|-2|748|+7|750|+2|749|-1|749|-|756|+7|13

joeguevara · 06-09-2020 06:58PM

Coolfresian wrote: »

How do we know there have been no deaths? People keep missing this point. The last death notified was from June. So that suggests a big lag in notification of deaths. If any have recently occured they may not be notified for another 2/3 months or am I wrong?

WHO offer guidelines for classifying deaths and each country interprets it. In Ireland it includes deaths in hospitals, nursing homes and residential settings that is attributable to Covid. It is up to the interpretation of certain Medical workers. Contrary to some reports it doesn’t include deaths from lets say a car crash but with Covid. Stats are then given to the HSPC and then to the acting CMO. Each one will be subject to a lab test. Also in complicated cases a quasi inquest with different experts could take place. Obviously it is more accurate the less deaths and hospitalisations there are as resources are paramount.but it is policy to follow up on cases and that’s where some are added or denoted depending on results.

It would seem that lack of deaths is what it is unless we are having a lag in residential settings which is a possibility due to reduced hospitalisations.

Hawthorn Tree · 06-09-2020 07:03PM

I am fascinated at how Project Fear has a hold on so many people in this thread.

Strumms · 06-09-2020 07:05PM

marno21 wrote: »

Yes

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1302646256343408640

202% higher than the previous high (68) not good.

Non solum non ambulabit · 06-09-2020 07:07PM

Coolfresian wrote: »

How do we know there have been no deaths? People keep missing this point. The last death notified was from June. So that suggests a big lag in notification of deaths. If any have recently occured they may not be notified for another 2/3 months or am I wrong?

Deaths are notified much more promptly than that in the main. But we have been stuck on 1777 total deaths for a few weeks now.

Plumbthedepths · 06-09-2020 07:08PM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

I am fascinated at how Project Fear has a hold on so many people in this thread.

To be honest fear was necessary at the start to get people to change behaviour, now it's just damaging.

podgeandrodge · 06-09-2020 07:08PM

So this 105 minutes...according to RTE anyway is:

"1 hour and 45 minutes where physical distancing of 1 metre can be maintained. However time slots of 105 minutes are not a requirement where physical distancing of 2 metres can be strictly maintained".

"Physical distancing is required between people from different households, but not between those from the same household."

Are they saying that if 2 mates go to the pub there should be 1m between them or just away from other tables? I'm getting confused! Same question for the no time limit if 2m - surely away from other tables not the people you are with?

Spanish Eyes · 06-09-2020 07:09PM

West Dublin lockdown incoming. Well they have set up a test centre there in Castleknock right beside Leo V. now.

I think there is another test centre in Dublin just started up also, but can't remember where, North Inner City maybe?

Non solum non ambulabit · 06-09-2020 07:13PM

joeguevara wrote: »

WHO offer guidelines for classifying deaths and each country interprets it. In Ireland it includes deaths in hospitals, nursing homes and residential settings that is attributable to Covid.

Stats are then given to the HSPC and then to the acting CMO. Each one will be subject to a lab test.

I didn't think we tested for Covid after death. Many deaths are attributed to a suspected Covid case.

I could be wrong but that is my understanding.

stephenjmcd · 06-09-2020 07:14PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

So this 105 minutes...according to RTE anyway is:

"1 hour and 45 minutes where physical distancing of 1 metre can be maintained. However time slots of 105 minutes are not a requirement where physical distancing of 2 metres can be strictly maintained".

"Physical distancing is required between people from different households, but not between those from the same household."

Are they saying that if 2 mates go to the pub there should be 1m between them or just away from other tables? I'm getting confused! Same question for the no time limit if 2m - surely away from other tables not the people you are with?

If tables are 1m away from each other 105 minutes. If tables are 2m away no time limit.

It's been like this since the start.

There are no changes in these guidelines except for the food requirement being removed

Blondini · 06-09-2020 07:14PM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

I am fascinated at how Project Fear has a hold on so many people in this thread.

It must be great to be too cool for covid...

Ger Roe · 06-09-2020 07:14PM

bpb101 wrote: »

Wet pub guidelines are the stupidest thing ever.
First thing before you open pub is drop the 1:45 in restaurants. You cant have that in restaurants and not pubs

If a lad has been drinking all day and the garda come in and there 1meter distance. The pub owners will say ah sure there was 2meter up until 10 mins ago.
Or even if you take a pub who follows it to the exact rules. After 1:45, they throw us out, youll just go to the pub right next door

Table service, 4-6 people tables and maybe divisors between tables. State can easily afford to give that to pubs for infrastructure. (Not cash, guarantee its being spent on covid reducing measures )

They make a fortune in tax from pubs (and spending 350 a week in social welfare for everybody in that pub to close them)

See... that there is the problem. Anyone can find a way around the guidelines ... it's not being clever, it's just selfish.

The idea is to try and protect everybody by limiting contact. Go out, have a pint or a meal in the allocated time and go home. It really is that simple ...IF you want to help out and try make sure most of us can have at least a level of normality.

If that's not the focus for everyone, then go ahead and drive a coach and horses through the guidelines - you won't be stopped, certainly not at the moment, but we all might be stopped later.

Your choice, despite the calls of state imposed authority, you can still decide to help out... or not.

spookwoman · 06-09-2020 07:15PM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

I am fascinated at how Project Fear has a hold on so many people in this thread.

Ah for feck sake give over.

The only hysteria is from those who resort to calling others names like doom mongers or spreaders of fear .

joeguevara · 06-09-2020 07:20PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

I didn't think we tested for Covid after death. Many deaths are attributed to a suspected Covid case.

I could be wrong but that is my understanding.

Nasopharyngeal swabs are recommended to be taken and if autopsy is required lung swabs are taken to test for Covid. Again only where it is believed it’s attributable. Car crash victims as an example wouldn’t need. If positive Covid before death, not required. Again this is when there is resources and if huge deaths and hospitalisations may be an issue.

podgeandrodge · 06-09-2020 07:26PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

If tables are 1m away from each other 105 minutes. If tables are 2m away no time limit.

It's been like this since the start.

There are no changes in these guidelines except for the food requirement being removed

Thanks Stephen. Yes, that was my understanding, but there is a raft of news articles online saying it's something new for the wet pubs. As you say, the rule was there already. I was confused though by the RTE phrasing which sounded like 3 ft from your own companion!

The 11.30 rule is a bad idea I feel. It's still forcing people to congregate at the same time in the evening. I'd prefer 10pm to 12.30 but I can't, so I'm going earlier.

Are most pubs saying they are 2m in people's experience? 105 minutes to unlimited is an unfair gap in my view.

stephenjmcd · 06-09-2020 07:28PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Thanks Stephen. Yes, that was my understanding, but there is a raft of news articles online saying it's something new for the wet pubs. As you say, the rule was there already. I was confused though by the RTE phrasing which sounded like 3 ft from your own companion!

The 11.30 rule is a bad idea I feel. It's still forcing people to congregate at the same time in the evening. I'd prefer 10pm to 12.30 but I can't, so I'm going earlier.

Are most pubs saying they are 2m in people's experience? 105 minutes to unlimited is an unfair gap in my view.

Yeah the way its being reported you'd think there is a raft of changes from how it is now

06-09-2020 07:35PM

bpb101 wrote: »

Not really
Dublin has over 1 million people. If you do that(which im not against) then you have impacted the entire country

Stop travel outside dublin. Okay that means every hotel in the county will lose on adverage 1/3 of its booking. Will this make it so its not worth some hotels opening else where

Close hotels. Then everybody else in the country who was going to dublin is effected.
Have several hundred thousand people going to Dublin for work
All of this and not really effective
Easier and more effective to do it nation wide

Nationwide lockdown is never going to happen again.

I dont understand your thinking.

If cases increase in an area its locked down, simple.

Auckland, Melbourne, Leicester, Aberdeen.

All of this Dublin is too big is nonsense.

If community transmission is happening widely in an area of Dublin, that part of dublin will be locked down.

People will protest, people will be angry. There will still be a lockdown in that area. An area of Dublin is not over a million. Hyperbole!!!

Plumbthedepths · 06-09-2020 07:35PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah the way its being reported you'd think there is a raft of changes from how it is now

What was the point of the new regulations requiring premises to keep records for 28 days, especially in light of the pubs reopening?

PowerToWait · 06-09-2020 07:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Ban visitors in people's homes in that area.

Simple

Not going to happen, for the most part, in the likes of Ballyer, Clondalkin, Finglas, Tallaght, Crumlin, Cabra, Blanch.

Ger Roe · 06-09-2020 07:42PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

What was the point of the new regulations requiring premises to keep records for 28 days, especially in light of the pubs reopening?

There was certainly no point to it, if pubs are going to be open shortly. It would seem to indicate the lack of a coherent plan (god forbid) on the pub aspect and lobbying has won out, so the opening discussions are now on.

Dr Glynn was asked about the restaurant rules situation on the Late Late and he diplomatically said that the receipt requirement was not a NPHET recommendation.

Looks like Stephen Donnelly took a badly thought out solo run under pressure from the guards to give them some additional enforcement options.

wadacrack · 06-09-2020 07:44PM

Worrying data from the CDC

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1302678426319564805

06-09-2020 07:44PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

Not going to happen, for the most part, in the likes of Ballyer, Clondalkin, Finglas, Tallaght, Crumlin, Cabra, Blanch.

They will ask people to do this. Some people will do it. Some people won't. Such is life.

PowerToWait · 06-09-2020 07:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

They will ask people to do this. Some people will do it. Some people won't. Such is life.

Some will, most won’t. But yeah, they‘ll ask alright.

Spanish Eyes · 06-09-2020 07:51PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

Not going to happen, for the most part, in the likes of Ballyer, Clondalkin, Finglas, Tallaght, Crumlin, Cabra, Blanch.

That is an outrageous comment. I bet the high flyers in the usual areas are doing the same TBH. They have awnings and patios though, maybe that makes a difference?

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