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Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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  • #6692
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    Again at 3% of cases travel related, a waste of time and resources.

    Again 20% travel related in july when hse were scratching themselves. Germany have seriously upped their testing at airports. Sure we will just ignore countries like germany and greece. They have been hopeless at controlling this disease :pac::pac: I would rate testing in this country 4/5 out of 10. It is an area that can and will vastily improve in the coming months. It cannot get much worse.


  • #6693
    [Deleted User]
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    The only people travelling now are either doing so for essential reasons or are complete tossers who don't give a sh1t about infecting people. So they should be extensively tested.


  • #6694
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    So worrying with the numbers from yesterday. Long winter ahead


  • #6695
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Very good article on how skiing in Austria effectively seeded the outbreaks in lots of countries. They didn't listen to public health guidelines and kept bars opened. Only when the Austrian chancellor announced the whole valley would be quarantined did bars shut. It led to mass exodus, with people on buses that normally take 40 mins taking 7 hours.
    6000 people launching class action suit.
    Wonder if we'll see anything like that here.
    Also cancelling the parade was good.
    Not doing it before a lot of people travelled was not so good.

    https://twitter.com/philipoltermann/status/1302167222102695938?s=20

    Virus came from China. Go for them instead. Head for the source


  • #6696
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Deleted User wrote: »
    How do we know this if we aren't testing people coming in? There could be loads of asymptomatic people coming in making others sick and causing outbreaks.
    Well, according to the numbers of cases we don't.


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  • #6697
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Again 20% travel related in july when hse were scratching themselves. Germany have seriously upped their testing at airports. Sure we will just ignore countries like germany and greece. They have been hopeless at controlling this disease :pac::pac:
    The Germans are travelling in very large numbers, we are not.


  • #6698
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    billybonkers wrote: »
    So worrying with the numbers from yesterday. Long winter ahead
    Look at the 7 and 14 day numbers. Daily ones are wild.


  • #6699
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    The Germans are travelling in very large numbers, we are not.

    If someone flys into our country whether irish resident or not there needs to be testing surveillance. We have a form that passengers complete. Not good enough hse. I think your on the wind up to be honest...:rolleyes:


  • #6700
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    100% of cases are travel related, it didn't just magically appear at the end of a rainbow, after lockdown and pretty much suppression of the virus it had to come back via travel, I'm not believing the 3%.
    It's also a cluster disease and it will spread regardless. Travel is a small component, closeness of contact is the main vector.


  • #6701
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If someone flys into our country whether irish resident or not there needs to be testing surveillance. We have a form that passengers complete. Not good enough hse. I think your on the wind up to be honest...:rolleyes:
    Then your outrage should be directed at them.


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  • #6702
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Look at the 7 and 14 day numbers. Daily ones are wild.

    Weekly numbers a big worry.


  • #6703
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    Then your outrage should be directed at them.

    It is, but you sound like a PR consultant for hse in your posts. Testing waste of tax payers money. Paul Reid said the same thing last month. Spoofing his way through a briefing while in reality taking their eye off the ball in June/July..;)


  • #6704
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    Weekly numbers a big worry.

    A big worry to whom?
    As the country opens up numbers increase yet hospital numbers are low. The younger demographic getting infected and their experience shows the virus is not as dangerous as first thought unless one has underlying conditions.


  • #6705
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It is, but you sound like a PR consultant for hse in your posts. Testing waste of tax payers money. Paul Reid said the same thing last month. Spoofing his way through a briefing while in reality taking their eye off the ball in June/July..;)
    Call it what you like. I'm just telling what they've said. It's called facts. You seem to be on another trajectory by the looks of it!


  • #6706
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    Weekly numbers a big worry.
    They are more consistent and apparently stable.


  • #6707
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The argument is that school have the scope to be well controlled.
    And yet people on the front lines there have said that distancing is impossible with the volume of people expected to be in the spaces.

    is_that_so wrote: »
    Even so we will get cases there.
    They've certainly made sure that narrative is circulating. Is covid caught in school "good covid" so but if it's caught in a restaurant it's bad and your own fault? Not to mention the fact that they're seeking to lay the blame at teachers' feet when it all goes tits up.
    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Here's the algo for determining what happens in the unfortunate event. We are not sticking with ECDC guidelines. Why are we not following them.
    We must know better. :rolleyes:

    Only POD tested under 13 even if distance between PODS not maintained.

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    "If all appropriate measures were taken by the index adult, then any additional precautions do not apply for any person who is not classified as a close contact."
    As long as they remain fairly isolated like the ones to date that should keep the schools open. The repeated exhortations by Glynn to minimise contacts suggests that is really where the problem lies.
    Yeah he's definitely trustworthy. You must be joking, it's plain to see that he has an issue with how things have been done and is prevented from speaking frankly. He always defers to Nolan when he is expected to say something which contravenes the scientific evidence, which is why Nolan was suddenly some sort of expert on schools last week, calculating how many friends children have and nonsense like that.

    Blended learning, staggered classes, hiring more permanent teachers and hiring new facilities would have all helped but that would have required planning, preparation and investment of money on an unprecedented scale

    When it comes to our education system, we have just never done that. It's possibly why the population are so polarised; they don't have the level of learning required to be able to parse and absorb the information given through the various channels, some of which is unreliable nonsense. America are trying the same experiment now, defund the education system and hope the ignorant heaving mass consumes itself, which is exactly what's happening.


  • #6708
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    A big worry to whom?
    As the country opens up numbers increase yet hospital numbers are low. The younger demographic getting infected and their experience shows the virus is not as dangerous as first thought unless one has underlying conditions.

    You answered the question yourself.

    Q : A big worry to whom?
    A: Anyone who has underlying conditions.

    That's underlying conditions Not, deadly, or absolutely life threatening, or no hope of recovery conditions.

    There are many people living happy and largely healthy lives with medically managed conditions that can suddenly be turned deadly by this disease.


  • #6709
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    Call it what you like. I'm just telling what they've said. It's called facts. You seem to be on another trajectory by the looks of it!

    Yes your quite right. HSE always speak in facts and I always believe everything single word they have ever stated. Your right, your right, your dead right :pac:::pac:


  • #6710
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    A big worry to whom?
    As the country opens up numbers increase yet hospital numbers are low. The younger demographic getting infected and their experience shows the virus is not as dangerous as first thought unless one has underlying conditions.

    Reported that hospital numbers are increasing and 78 percent of people who had the virus have long term lung or heart problems


  • #6711
    Plumbthedepths
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Reported that hospital numbers are increasing and 78 percent of people who had the virus have long term lung or heart problems

    I see this 78% figure thrown out by people. Would you care to explain the 78% since you used it. I know exactly to what outcomes it refers to .I'm interested to know do you?
    Long term? For a virus we are aware of since January.


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  • #6712
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I see this 78% figure thrown out by people. Would you care to explain the 78% since you used it. I know exactly to what outcomes it refers to .I'm interested to know do you?

    No problem. It has been reported that 78 percent of people who had the virus end up with ling or heart issues.

    That's what is being reported. I read it this morning.


  • #6713
    Plumbthedepths
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    Ger Roe wrote: »
    You answered the question yourself.

    Q : A big worry to whom?
    A: Anyone who has underlying conditions.

    That's underlying conditions Not, deadly, or absolutely life threatening, or no hope of recovery conditions.

    There are many people living happy and largely healthy lives with medically managed conditions that can suddenly be turned deadly by this disease.

    So basically it's a mild condition for healthy people.


  • #6714
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    No problem. It has been reported that 78 percent of people who had the virus end up with ling or heart issues.

    That's what is being reported. I read it this morning.

    Can you link the report so since you have made the claim?
    You still haven't explained your 78% claim, why not?


  • #6715
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Can you link the report so since you have made the claim?

    It's in today's Sunday independent. Youl have to go and buy it I suppose

    Explain it?


  • #6716
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    It's in today's Sunday independent. Youl have to go and buy it I suppose

    Explain it?

    So you are unwilling to provide a link to back up your claim.
    I'm going to assume you are spoofing so.


  • #6717
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Ireland could face 10,000 coronavirus cases a day by Christmas if measures are not put in place to stop its spread, an expert warned yesterday.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dublinlive.ie/news/health/ireland-could-face-10000-coronavirus-18886275.amp

    Stopped reading after I seen who the so called expert was (Gerry Killeen) and his guess that he "believes" if the numbers continue to multiply the way they are..

    For the record

    Last seven days - 825 cases from 64942 tests

    The previous 7 days - 826 cases from 57456 tests.


  • #6718
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    No problem. It has been reported that 78 percent of people who had the virus end up with ling or heart issues.

    That's what is being reported. I read it this morning.
    Are you sure they are not referring to this? 78% OK but only 100 patients.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/german-studies-indicate-long-term-covid-19-health-issues-1.4318036


  • #6719
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    So you are unwilling to provide a link to back up your claim.
    I'm going to assume you are spoofing so.

    What are you on about?

    It's in the Sunday indo. Go and buy it . I cant link a newspaper article to you.


  • #6720
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    It's in today's Sunday independent. Youl have to go and buy it I suppose

    Explain it?
    Yeah there's a new law just signed in that says you have to justify anything worrying about the virus to that individual poster. It's a huge workload for them to have to go through all the data, but they put in the really long slog at great personal cost and it's all worth it to make the virus a positive experience for this thread.


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  • #6721
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    What are you on about?

    It's in the Sunday indo. Go and buy it . I cant link a newspaper article to you.

    You can't link an article? Why not? It's quite easy.


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