How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

Boggles · 03-09-2020 02:26PM

2 classes sent home?

What about the teachers?

Be grand?

Blondini · 03-09-2020 02:27PM

PCros wrote: »

3 kids now in total though right?

Wrong.

PCros · 03-09-2020 02:28PM

Boggles wrote: »

2 classes sent home?

What about the teachers?

Be grand?

Do teachers have to remain in the building? That's odd.

I thought they would be able to remotely teach at home? Pointless doing that in an empty classroom...

s1ippy · 03-09-2020 02:28PM

PCros wrote: »

3 kids now in total though right?

God it's even worse than we thought if those supposed three children were orphans with no siblings, classmates or teacher around them.

Afaik they don't release who the initial case is in; they said the staff of the school in Clare were close contacts of a confirmed case but they only mentioned it because the school had to close entirely as there were no permanent staff available to come in and keep the place going.

It could be two children in a given school, it could be 200, I suspect the only people who will know are their families. I just hope they're facilitated in self-isolating and not going in to work or other schools like.

Blondini · 03-09-2020 02:29PM

Boggles wrote: »

2 classes sent home?

What about the teachers?

Be grand?

The Russian, the multiple personality, and the covid-deniers will be here soon to tell us we are being hysterical .

PCros · 03-09-2020 02:30PM

Blondini wrote: »

Wrong.

Thanks, informative reply.

Boggles · 03-09-2020 02:31PM

PCros wrote: »

Do teachers have to remain in the building? That's odd.

I thought they would be able to remotely teach at home? Pointless doing that in an empty classroom...

It's a secondary school.

PCros · 03-09-2020 02:32PM

Boggles wrote: »

It's a secondary school.

I see.

Would it be different for primary schools I wonder.

Boggles · 03-09-2020 02:37PM

PCros wrote: »

I see.

Would it be different for primary schools I wonder.

I just asked the question about the teachers in secondary and what happens them, the reason I asked the question is because I don't know.

If I don't know how can I possible muse or compare to primary?

TonyMaloney · 03-09-2020 02:40PM

Eh, actually it's probably a primary school

https://twitter.com/ciaraquill/status/1301514912284504064?s=20

PCros · 03-09-2020 02:41PM

Boggles wrote: »

I just asked the question about the teachers in secondary and what happens them, the reason I asked the question is because I don't know.

If I don't know how can I possible muse or compare to primary?

Don't be confused.

It was more of a question to the forum...a few teachers are on here I believe.

DSN · 03-09-2020 02:46PM

Jaded Walker wrote: »

Here are some questions.

Is there any advice anywhere in the reopening of schools documents regarding high risk parents?
Is there anything in it anywhere about kids who have gone back to school meeting their grandparents?

And if this information isn't in it, why isn't it?

Are people literally waiting to be told what to do at every turn now? Have a chat with the grandparents, if grandparents are comfortable & kids have no symptoms or known contacts in area positive, then I will still visit with the kids & them us. Again, if parents at risk, they have to assess their own situation. There was a lady on TV other night with double lung disease & took decision to send her only child to school to be with his friends & have an education. I guess her child changes clothes & scrubs hands etc after school. I mean the risk is there but what else can she do or what else do you expect a document from the HSE to tell her to do?

caveat emptor · 03-09-2020 02:50PM

Here's the algo for determining what happens in the unfortunate event. We are not sticking with ECDC guidelines. Why are we not following them.
We must know better. :rolleyes:

Only POD tested under 13 even if distance between PODS not maintained.

PCros · 03-09-2020 02:51PM

DSN wrote: »

Are people literally waiting to be told what to do at every turn now? Have a chat with the grandparents, if grandparents are comfortable & kids have no symptoms or known contacts in area positive, then I will still visit with the kids & them us. Again, if parents at risk, they have to assess their own situation. There was a lady on TV other night with double lung disease & took decision to send her only child to school to be with his friends & have an education. I guess her child changes clothes & scrubs hands etc after school. I mean the risk is there but what else can she do or what else do you expect a document from the HSE to tell her to do?

I agree with this.

People are going on like as if we'll have to send grandparents to the round tower and not come out until the vaccine is here.

From our perspective we will still bring our kids to walk the grandparents dog with them and hang with them out their back garden. We'll keep an eye on social distancing and I think that will be fine.

s1ippy · 03-09-2020 02:59PM

https://twitter.com/kerryman_ie/status/1301498847278125056?s=20

https://twitter.com/kerryman_ie/status/1301519729568473090?s=20

So that's five now; two Dublin, two Kerry and one Clare. Really unlucky or coincidental given children don't spread the virus.

Boggles · 03-09-2020 03:03PM

What is astonishing is, the advice seems to be even if children are awaiting on a test result is to send them to school.

1 or 2 cases in a few days, yeah you could write that off as reckless parents, but a trend has emerged. Public Health is telling them send them in, be grand!

This will not end well.

SusanC10 · 03-09-2020 03:04PM

Boggles wrote: »

What is astonishing is, the advice seems to be even if children are awaiting on a test result is to send them to school.

1 or 2 cases in a few days, yeah you could write that off as reckless parents, but a trend has emerged. Public Health is telling them send them in, be grand!

This will not end well.

Where are you seeing to send Kids to school who are awaiting Test results?

TheValeyard · 03-09-2020 03:08PM

s1ippy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/kerryman_ie/status/1301498847278125056?s=20

https://twitter.com/kerryman_ie/status/1301519729568473090?s=20

So that's five now; two Dublin, two Kerry and one Clare. Really unlucky or coincidental given children don't spread the virus.

And a school in Kildare may be added to that list very shortly unfortunately. Hopefully not

Boggles · 03-09-2020 03:09PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Where are you seeing to send Kids to school who are awaiting Test results?

Because there is a trend emerging that cannot be simply written off by reckless parenting.

03-09-2020 03:15PM

Boggles wrote: »

Because there is a trend emerging that cannot be simply written off by reckless parenting.

They go back to contacts 48 hours prior to first symptoms. If some one got a positive result this morning having been tested yesterday with symptoms starting Tuesday evening, they may well have appeared fine and been in school Monday and Tuesday

DSN · 03-09-2020 03:19PM

s1ippy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/kerryman_ie/status/1301498847278125056?s=20

https://twitter.com/kerryman_ie/status/1301519729568473090?s=20

So that's five now; two Dublin, two Kerry and one Clare. Really unlucky or coincidental given children don't spread the virus.

In Kerry there was just one positive, 2 classes sent home as precautionary.
In Clare far as I aware no positive test in school, but staff were a close contact of a case, so school shut while staff get tested & can return.

To me so far so good cases are being caught & their contacts sent home as precautionary & presume will have to get tested?

Also where does it say to send to school while awaiting test results - that's the opposite of the advice afaik! Anyone awaiting test results due to symptoms or being a contact of a positive case - be in school, work whatever needs to stay home until they get the result!

03-09-2020 03:20PM

s1ippy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/kerryman_ie/status/1301498847278125056?s=20

https://twitter.com/kerryman_ie/status/1301519729568473090?s=20

So that's five now; two Dublin, two Kerry and one Clare. Really unlucky or coincidental given children don't spread the virus.

Honestly believe there has been enough time for these kids to have caught the virus at school, incubated, developed symptoms, been tested and gotten results since schools returned?

Boggles · 03-09-2020 03:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

They go back to contacts 48 hours prior to first symptoms. If some one got a positive result this morning having been tested yesterday with symptoms starting Tuesday evening, they may well have appeared fine and been in school Monday and Tuesday

There is no 24 hour turn around in community testing.

If they contacted their GP Wednesday morning, they would have got tested at best until the afternoon, that test result would not have been back this morning before school opened.

SusanC10 · 03-09-2020 03:27PM

DSN wrote: »

In Kerry there was just one positive, 2 classes sent home as precautionary.

I read on Twitter The Kerryman (can't make quote come on here) that it is 1 Primary plus 1 Secondary.

03-09-2020 03:49PM

Boggles wrote: »

There is no 24 hour turn around in community testing.

If they contacted their GP Wednesday morning, they would have got tested at best until the afternoon, that test result would not have been back this morning before school opened.

Yes there is. Most people are tested on the same day if they contact the gp in the morning. And one individual I know called the doctor at 2 and was tested by half 4.

Lillyfae · 03-09-2020 03:50PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes there is. Most people are tested on the same day if they contact the gp in the morning. And one individual I know called the doctor at 2 and was tested by half 4.

Turnaround is achieved when the results come back

Boggles · 03-09-2020 03:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes there is. Most people are tested on the same day if they contact the gp in the morning. .

Yes I know. I said that in the post you quoted.

If they contacted their GP Wednesday morning, they would have got tested at best until the afternoon

The point remains there is no 24 hour turn around testing in the community, or 16 hour for that matter.

There is absolutely no way that test happened yesterday and the school was informed before they opened this morning.

03-09-2020 03:55PM

Lillyfae wrote: »

Turnaround is achieved when the results come back

And in the case I referred to the test was Wednesday evening and result first thing Friday morning, So not beyond the realms of possibility that if you are tested earlier, results will be back the next day.

In fact - do contact tracing within work, and someone from work was sent for test about 12 today. Will see if they get results tomorrow

03-09-2020 03:57PM

Boggles wrote: »

Yes I know. I said that in the post you quoted.

The point remains there is no 24 hour turn around testing in the community, or 16 hour for that matter.

There is absolutely no way that test happened yesterday and the school was informed before they opened this morning.

They may have been tested Tuesday and were in Monday. Some schools were back last week.

Boggles · 03-09-2020 04:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

They may have been tested Tuesday and were in Monday. Some schools were back last week.

Or they may have been sent to school awaiting on a test result.

The question is, is that policy or reckless parenting?

Or is the media fúcking this up and they are not positive cases at all but close contacts of someone awaiting a test who turned out positive.

How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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