Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Plumbthedepths · 05-09-2020 07:14PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

It's not inside the stadium that's the problem it's what happens before the game and getting into the stadium \ home from stadium.
A bigger risk again if you have away fans moving across the country.

NPHET wanted to include weddings in the restrictions but were overruled by Cabinet. On the other hand, people don't go to weddings every week as they do sports games.

Churches is usually the same congregation every week and people disperse quickly afterwards.

A bigger risk is fans moving across the country? So the staycation suggestion from government was reckless? Going on holidays to Kerry is safe but going to a match an hour away is dangerous.

stephenjmcd · 05-09-2020 07:17PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

A bigger risk is fans moving across the country? So the staycation suggestion from government was reckless? Going on holidays to Kerry is safe but going to a match an hour away is dangerous.

Wouldn't mind but away fans weren't allowed into league of Ireland grounds anyway.

Can't say I ever felt unsafe when we were allowed back into games. Was very well organised. Different entrance and exit, plenty of hand sanitizer and 4 seats away from the next person

landofthetree · 05-09-2020 07:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Fair enough in shops. Don't think too many cases have ever happened in shops throughout this tbh. Shops have never been the problem in this from the start...

Nor barbershop or hairdressers.

If you put a plan in place it will work.

We could have a plan for pubs but we would have to be strict. But the mob reaction to a law or even a guidelines means it's not possible.

Ohmeha · 05-09-2020 07:21PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

It's not inside the stadium that's the problem it's what happens before the game and getting into the stadium \ home from stadium.
A bigger risk again if you have away fans moving across the country.

NPHET wanted to include weddings in the restrictions but were overruled by Cabinet. On the other hand, people don't go to weddings every week as they do sports games.

Churches is usually the same congregation every week and people disperse quickly afterwards.

So I saw today loads of people (guessing about 35-40) spilling out onto a footpath from a church from a wedding with no masks on but yet a LOI club cannot accommodate 150 randomly allocated season ticket holders spaced out in an open air ground because a couple of them *might* (realistically 1% chance) share a car travelling to the ground or meet up for a pre-match €9 meal in a socially distanced pub/restaurant

Lets face it FF/FG don't want to piss off the wedding industry

Plumbthedepths · 05-09-2020 07:21PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Wouldn't mind but away fans weren't allowed into league of Ireland grounds anyway.

Can't say I ever felt unsafe when we were allowed back into games. Was very well organised. Different entrance and exit, plenty of hand sanitizer and 4 seats away from the next person

I just find it amusing the lengths some will go to justify some of the crazier restrictions. The €9 anti Covid meal is the most bananas one.

05-09-2020 07:21PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

The plan was never to test 100,000 a week.

It was to have the capacity.

Which we now do.

Of course the plan was to test 100000.

Why say it otherwise?

There was weeks in the summer we should have been testing far more.

Paul Reid is a spoofer. Reminds me a second hand car sales man.

The testing is creaking at levels way below hses claim of 100000 and that's all it is a claim until proven by system.

igCorcaigh · 05-09-2020 07:21PM

StevenToast wrote: »

Nomadic friends

OT but I hate this traveller bashing that appears too much on this forum, without reprimand. Shameful.

gamerguy1 · 05-09-2020 07:24PM

Anybody know when the geohive covid map is updated so we can see number of cases in my area. Hasn't been updated in a few weeks I think.

What Username Guidelines · 05-09-2020 07:25PM

gamerguy1 wrote: »

Anybody know when the geohive covid map is updated so we can see number of cases in my area. Hasn't been updated in a few weeks I think.

Has only been updated once. Initial data was June 12th. Was updated august 12th. So maybe there might be an update on 12 October?

gamerguy1 · 05-09-2020 07:27PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Has only been updated once. Initial data was June 12th. Was updated august 12th. So maybe there might be an update on 12 October?

It would be good if it was updated every 2 weeks at least or every month

05-09-2020 07:29PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

Just turn off the radio/TV/Web browser pal if it's effecting you that much. Look after your own mental health.

Daily reported cases are meaningless at this stage i think. Going to look at cases once a week i think from now on.

CalamariFritti · 05-09-2020 07:29PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

No surprise with case numbers tonight following the swabs

Why our are numbers so erratic ?

It causes so much frustration

It only causes so much frustration because we seem fixated by them. Its like fkn Moses coming down from Mount Sinai every night with a new scripture and everyone open mouthed waiting for him at the foot of the hill.

We need to get over this fixation with the daily numbers. Especially since the actual reporting is only loosely connected to when infections actually occurred and there seem to be all sorts of factors at play.

iamwhoiam · 05-09-2020 07:29PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

It's not inside the stadium that's the problem it's what happens before the game and getting into the stadium \ home from stadium.
A bigger risk again if you have away fans moving across the country.

NPHET wanted to include weddings in the restrictions but were overruled by Cabinet. On the other hand, people don't go to weddings every week as they do sports games.

Churches is usually the same congregation every week and people disperse quickly afterwards.

Surely that could be controlled by the Stadium ? Supermarkets have controlled entrance queues and the exits could have staggered leaving by seat number or whatever . A huge stadiium outdoors is not even comparable to a church in my opinion

05-09-2020 07:32PM

landofthetree wrote: »

Nor barbershop or hairdressers.

If you put a plan in place it will work.

We could have a plan for pubs but we would have to be strict. But the mob reaction to a law or even a guidelines means it's not possible.

It's the informal settings that this thing takes off. You can't regulate that and not even sure you should try. Testing and tracing needs to be better not people. People will be people.

Martina1991 · 05-09-2020 07:34PM

stephenjmcd wrote:

Good thread here on testing and some of the issues being faced in the labs.

And thats just the lab TAT. That doesn't include the transport time from testing centre to lab and the time it takes to communicate thousands of results a day.

People don't often think about or understand the proceses involved day to day to make things work, on top of other routine work.

drunkmonkey · 05-09-2020 07:35PM

Ohmeha wrote: »

So I saw today loads of people (guessing about 35-40) spilling out onto a footpath from a church from a wedding with no masks on but yet a LOI club cannot accommodate 150 randomly allocated season ticket holders spaced out in an open air ground because a couple of them *might* (realistically 1% chance) share a car travelling to the ground or meet up for a pre-match €9 meal in a socially distanced pub/restaurant

Lets face it FF/FG don't want to piss off the wedding industry

Breaking in the states and they only had 67 at the wedding when 50 are allowed, tbh if you want an outdoor wedding go for it but caution might be needed at indoor ones or at least limit the guests to ones from the locality.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/three-dead-147-infected-after-covid-super-spreader-wedding/

05-09-2020 07:37PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

It only causes so much frustration because we seem fixated by them. Its like fkn Moses coming down from Mount Sinai every night with a new scripture and everyone open mouthed waiting for him at the foot of the hill.

We need to get over this fixation with the daily numbers. Especially since the actual reporting is only loosely connected to when infections actually occurred and there seem to be all sorts of factors at play.

I agree. But govt policy seems to be higher number today, therefore people need to SD better than yesterday. Cant see this working for another 9 months.

Plumbthedepths · 05-09-2020 07:37PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Breaking in the states and they only had 67 at the wedding when 50 are allowed, tbh if you want an outdoor wedding go for it but caution might be needed at indoor ones or at least limit the guests to ones from the locality.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/three-dead-147-infected-after-covid-super-spreader-wedding/

You can only have 15 outside at a gathering but 50 indoors. The restrictions make sense....ha ha.

CalamariFritti · 05-09-2020 07:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I agree. But govt policy seems to be higher number today, therefore people need to SD better than yesterday. Cant see this working for another 9 months.

The next two weeks are crucial.

odyssey06 · 05-09-2020 07:38PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Surely that could be controlled by the Stadium ? Supermarkets have controlled entrance queues and the exits could have staggered leaving by seat number or whatever . A huge stadiium outdoors is not even comparable to a church in my opinion

Perhaps - I guess with supermarkets you don't have groups of the people who already know each other trying to mingle and discuss this week's shop before and after said shop... like you might have with sports games.

spookwoman · 05-09-2020 07:43PM

Running late tonight here are todays numbers

Todays numbers 05/09/2020
231 New cases with 0 denotifications. Total = 29,534
0 Deaths with 0 denotification. Total = 1,777
Monday to Sunday average for week 111.86 with total of 783 cases.
Last week was avg 115.00 with Total of 807 cases.
Rolling Saturday 05/09/2020 117.86/ Total = 825
Rolling Saturday 29/08/2020 Average = 118.00. Total = 826

Briefing
• 133 are in Dublin, 18 in Kildare, 13 in Limerick, 8 in Offaly, 7 in Galway, 7 in Wicklow, 6 in Meath, 6 in Cork, 5 in Donegal, 5 in Cavan, 5 in Waterford, and the remaining 18 cases in Carlow, Clare, Kerry, Laois, Leitrim, Louth, Mayo, Monaghan, Sligo, and Tipperary

(03/09/20 GOV.IE)
Hospital 3418 +6
ICU 448 +1
Healthcare workers 8,719 +24
Clusters 2848+22
Cases Associated with Clusters 16,107 +82
Median Age 46

(05/09/20 HUB) @18.00
ICU 7 -
Admissions and Discharged - / -
Confirmed In Hospital 48+4
Admission (24 hrs) 4
Discharged (24 hrs) 1

HSE operations report is published after 22.00hrs
04/09/2020

Number of Confirmed COVID-19 Cases Admitted across 29 acute sites
(Including CHI) 47 (+6)
Critical Care Beds 440 (-)
Critical Care Beds Open 347 (-3)
Occupied / Reserved 283 (-8)
Occupied Reserved C19 7 (+1)
Available 49 (+9)
Vacant General 358 (+59)
Vacant Critical Care Public 49 (+9)
Vacant Critical Care Paediatric 3 (+2)
Vacant Critical Care Private 6(-2)
Confirmed Critical Care (7) / Suspected Critical Care 7
C19 Deaths 0 / Suspected Deaths 0
Confirmed Ventilated 6/ Suspected Ventilated 4

Transmission
(03/09/20 GOV.IE)
Community 30.1% -
Close Contact Confirmed 66.7% -
Travel 2.5% -
Unknown 0.8% -

(05/09/20 Press release)
Community 54 Yesterday 16
Close Contact 48% 111 Yesterday 47% 45±

Testing
(05/09/20 Hub)
Total 889,757 +11,185
Hospital Total 329,117 2,672
Labs Total 560,640 +8,513
Total Positive 32,784 +154 %Positive 3.7% - Week% Positive 1.3% -

|Age Affected|Incr|Hospitalised|Incr
(03/09/2020 Gov.ie)
0-4|315|+8|26|+1
5-14|622|+10|20|+1
15-24|2,713|+19|81|+1
25-34|5,127|+18|209|-1
35-44|5,115|+10|278|-
45-54|5,101|+14|458|-
55-64|3,554|+9|504|+1
65-74|1,947|-|598|-
75-84|2,374|+2|760|+1
85+|2,411|+8|483|+2
?|24|-|1|-

County|03/09/2020|Incr|02/09/2020|Incr|County|03/09/2020|Incr|01/09/2020|Incr
Carlow|253|+2|251|+2|Cavan|895|-|895|-
Clare|477|+3|474|+1|Cork|1,649|+4|1645|+2
Donegal|540|-|540|-|Dublin|13,611|+24|13,587|+52
Galway|518|+1|517|-|Kerry|338|+8|330|+1
Kildare|2,293|+13|2,280|+6|Kilkenny|413|+6|407|+4
Laois|390|+3|387|+2|Leitrim|87|+1|86|-
Limerick|791|+6|785|+2|Longford|303|+1|302|+1
Louth|838|+6|832|+2|Mayo|589|-|589|+1
Meath|913|+2|911|+6|Monaghan|575|+2|573|-
Offaly|633|+4|629|+3|Roscommon|364|-|364|-
Sligo|157|-|157|-|Tipperary|724|+5|719|+3
Waterford|204|+4|200|+3|Westmeath|694|-|694|+2
Wexford|305|+3|302|+2|Wicklow|749|-|749|-1

What Username Guidelines · 05-09-2020 07:44PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

The next two weeks are crucial.

In fairness it’s been nearly 6 months and people still listen to this one. I wonder if the government are surprised they’ve still got so much compliance.

Hawthorn Tree · 05-09-2020 07:47PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

In fairness it’s been nearly 6 months and people still listen to this one. I wonder if the government are surprised they’ve still got so much compliance.

That worm has turned. So many people are questioning the restrictions now. The Clifden Elite party helped trigger a mindset change and rethink.

Plumbthedepths · 05-09-2020 07:49PM

69% of today's reported cases are under the age of 45.

drunkmonkey · 05-09-2020 07:49PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You can only have 15 outside at a gathering but 50 indoors. The restrictions make sense....ha ha.

They really need to tear up the rule book at this stage, I was in the Atlantic for the afternoon, probably 200 odd in the water, covid didn't cross my mind more worried about getting a belt of a surf board in the head. There should be no limits outside bar it's an enclosed place like a stadium, aviva etc. 15 outside what planet are these people on.

Funsterdelux · 05-09-2020 07:50PM

This is a good piece on "Ground Zero" in the Alps.

Here

05-09-2020 07:51PM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

That worm has turned. So many people are questioning the restrictions now. The Clifden Elite party helped trigger a mindset change and rethink.

Not sustainable for more than a few months.

We are now Sweden. Lets see how next two months go.

The_Brood · 05-09-2020 07:58PM

The restrictions have done absolutely feck all. Common sense like masks, distance, washing hands is good - but preventing careful people from doing their work and from travelling has helped in no way shape or form.

odyssey06 · 05-09-2020 07:59PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They really need to tear up the rule book at this stage, I was in the Atlantic for the afternoon, probably 200 odd in the water, covid didn't cross my mind more worried about getting a belt of a surf board in the head. There should be no limits outside bar it's an enclosed place like a stadium, aviva etc. 15 outside what planet are these people on.

If it's from a large group of people who know each other, different households, meeting up occasionally, sharing transport, mingling, chatting etc... huge number of contacts to follow up in case of an infection.

It's a totally different situation to a random group of 20 people who don't know each other outdoors engaged in the same personal hobby.

Gruffalux · 05-09-2020 08:08PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I agree. But govt policy seems to be higher number today, therefore people need to SD better than yesterday. Cant see this working for another 9 months.

Do you think they send out crack teams in the dead of the night to inject unsuspecting citizens with covid so they can get the numbers they want in lab results that they can then run through the Connivance Machine and spill out the magic readout with suitable results to instil the fear in all the other unsuspecting citizens? And do they cock their little fingers and bring them to the edge of their mouths and go muahahaha MUAHAHAHA while stroking fluffy pussies?
Sounds exciting, this alternative universe!

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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