FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

03-09-2020 02:04PM

lsheehaneire wrote: »

I am also hoping to start the hybrid in dec/jan. The refund probably means that the cost to sit the exam from the comfort of your own home will not be the same as would be charged to physically sit the exam in various venues , so maybe there will will be a slight refund based on the difference? It's quite clear when people are communicating with the LS individually we are all getting different answers. They told me the third week in September so technically that could be as early as the 14th ....we will have to wait and see ðŸ™ˆ

How does the hybrid work?

LawCopy16 · 03-09-2020 02:05PM

Yeah I forgot that there would be people starting in January who would need to do them ASAP. I couldn't see them giving a partial refund though given that even if there wasn't a physical cost to holding them they would probably need the money to invest in software to hold them remotely and the timetable also said that a "full refund" would be given if they didn't go ahead. Ultimately though it's the Law Society and they definitely are just giving different answers to everyone anyway.

lsheehaneire · 03-09-2020 02:17PM

https://www.lawsociety.ie/Trainees/PPC-Courses/ppc-hybrid/

Dliodoir2020 · 03-09-2020 02:26PM

Just wanting to know what experiences people had with rechecks.

The €115 cost seems prohibitively expensive but, if your mark increases is the amount refunded? What's the turnaround time?

I got 43% in Tort which I feel is quite low because I thought I passed it when I came out of the exam. Is there any point in rechecking it because it feels like the gap is too great?

Coopie · 03-09-2020 02:52PM

Dliodoir2020 wrote: »

Just wanting to know what experiences people had with rechecks.

The €115 cost seems prohibitively expensive but, if your mark increases is the amount refunded? What's the turnaround time?

I got 43% in Tort which I feel is quite low because I thought I passed it when I came out of the exam. Is there any point in rechecking it because it feels like the gap is too great?

Get it rechecked. It will take ages to get a refund though.

Lealaw · 03-09-2020 03:01PM

Just wondering with the time pressure in the exam how much are people generally able to write, obviously this differs person to person based on speed etc but it would be great to know if I am anywhere near the necessary on it? Thanks

IgoPAP · 03-09-2020 03:05PM

Lealaw wrote: »

Just wondering with the time pressure in the exam how much are people generally able to write, obviously this differs person to person based on speed etc but it would be great to know if I am anywhere near the necessary on it? Thanks

I do 3-4 pages per question and I have big handwriting.

Dliodoir2020 · 03-09-2020 03:15PM

Depending on how big your handwriting is, I'd aim for 2.5 - 4 pages.

Fe1student1234 · 03-09-2020 03:42PM

Lealaw wrote: »

Just wondering with the time pressure in the exam how much are people generally able to write, obviously this differs person to person based on speed etc but it would be great to know if I am anywhere near the necessary on it? Thanks

Honestly it depends on the question and your handwriting. Mine have ranged from 6/7 pages to some questions only writing 2.5/3 pages.
If you’ve answered the question and hit the main points in 3 pages then I’d say that’d be enough to write

Lealaw · 03-09-2020 03:46PM

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

Honestly it depends on the question and your handwriting. Mine have ranged from 6/7 pages to some questions only writing 2.5/3 pages.
If you’ve answered the question and hit the main points in 3 pages then I’d say that’d be enough to write

Wowzer, fair play hitting 6-7 and still completing all 5 questions, that's fast writing. Thanks for letting me know!

Coopie · 03-09-2020 03:59PM

Dliodoir2020 wrote: »

Just wanting to know what experiences people had with rechecks.

The €115 cost seems prohibitively expensive but, if your mark increases is the amount refunded? What's the turnaround time?

I got 43% in Tort which I feel is quite low because I thought I passed it when I came out of the exam. Is there any point in rechecking it because it feels like the gap is too great?

Get it rechecked. It will take ages to get a refund though.

IgoPAP · 03-09-2020 04:15PM

Being able to write reams of pages is not at all impressive or an indication of a good answer anyways. The biggest criticism found in the Examiners Report is that students write on irrelevant topics or issues, or scribe out pre-prepared answers.

A short, succinct 2 page answer that hits on all the points is much better than some rambling nonsense that goes on for 7 pages.

Fe1 · 03-09-2020 05:24PM

Hey, does anyone have papers for or even know the topics that came up in - Property March 2020, Contract March 2020, Criminal March 2020? Any help would be much appreciated!

Fe1 · 03-09-2020 05:47PM

'August 2020 FE-1 results. The provisional date for the release of results of the above examination is Monday 28 September.'
I guess all repeats for Tort and EU will have to be in March?

IgoPAP · 03-09-2020 06:06PM

Fe1 wrote: »

'August 2020 FE-1 results. The provisional date for the release of results of the above examination is Monday 28 September.'
I guess all repeats for Tort and EU will have to be in March?

Dear God. I thought its being released in the third week of September so that re-checks can be applied before the 16th? Now it's being released at the end of September? Huh?

Iso_123 · 03-09-2020 06:22PM

Oh my god the results being released the week before the October exam is a disaster:( That certainly will not do anything for the nerves if it turns out we failed..

nicolesd · 03-09-2020 06:53PM

i have emailed the law society there complaining about the provisional date i think its so unfair! it leaves next to no time to prepare if we end up failing! its absolutely shocking!

Bex20 · 03-09-2020 07:29PM

The LS aren’t going to change the date for the results and I can’t see how emailing to complain about the date is going to get anyone anywhere. People are still waiting for copies of scripts since May so the chances of even getting to see the script or get a recheck before October is highly unlikely.

The exams are normally only held in March and October. The sitting in August was an additional sitting and was mainly people for people heading to Blackhall in September or who had originally applied to sit the exams in March. It just so happened that other people were lucky they were able to benefit from it and apply to sit the exams.

I would be planning to sit/ be studying for other subjects and if needs be resit in March. In saying that I know that the LS have excepted applications after the deadline date before but that would mean studying for tort or eu now as well as anything else which could be a waste of time.

Lallers96 · 03-09-2020 07:32PM

Half tempted not to even look at my results for fear it's bad news, because that would destroy my morale for Octobers exams and would cause a lot of stress and hassle chasing the law society on the scripts, and doing a recheck..

LJones18 · 03-09-2020 07:53PM

Has anyone had trouble actually logging onto the law society's website?

I have been trying every day and it doesn't load up for me.

jewels652 · 03-09-2020 07:55PM

For those starting ppc1 I got a information pack from the ls but it doesn’t seem to be the right one. How many forms should I submit ?
I have form 1, form 2A, and annexed 1 and 2A but somewhere else I see form 4,5 and 6. Can somebody please help me not getting much guidance from the ls.

Thanks

Lallers96 · 03-09-2020 08:02PM

November is way too late. We just have to accept, as crap as it is, that if someone fails one of Tort or EU, that you'll just have to sit it in March for a resit, if you don't pass on a recheck.

aisoburke1994 · 03-09-2020 08:04PM

I would be open to start a petition. Currently I am working abroad, so it would be great if they could be moved

Fe1student1234 · 03-09-2020 08:06PM

Lallers96 wrote: »

Half tempted not to even look at my results for fear it's bad news, because that would destroy my morale for Octobers exams and would cause a lot of stress and hassle chasing the law society on the scripts, and doing a recheck..

I’m thinking the same tbh. Can’t afford to mess up this sitting thinking about the August ones.

LJones18 · 03-09-2020 08:08PM

I think they definitely should be postponed given we might only get results a week or so before.

Fe1student1234 · 03-09-2020 08:14PM

Tbh I think we have to realize there are only two examiners that are allowed correct our scripts. They had over 1000 in each exam. While I do think that the results for everyone else are a bit late in September I don’t think we could have expected them within 3 weeks when the usual process is 6.

LS3 · 03-09-2020 08:26PM

LJones18 wrote: »

I think they definitely should be postponed given we might only get results a week or so before.

I dont think we need to be petitioning them to move the October exams. I think we need to be petitioning them to move the results date forward!

03-09-2020 08:44PM

I’m actually speechless with the provisional results date. And that tort is then the FIRST exam to be held a bare week later. It’s extremely unfair. It’s worrying to be putting so much into starting a career with the LS when they clearly just do not care about us or our mental health.

I would love to do something petitionwise, preferably I’d want my results quicker but perhaps even try for another sitting of Tort/EU a month later?

Also with regards the number of students who sat them, I sat tort in Cork and there was max 50 students in the only hall used. I know there was one other cork venue and heard of 2 Dublin ones. Unless there was multiple rooms in the other venues that leaves approx 200 students.

Fe1student1234 · 03-09-2020 08:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I’m actually speechless with the provisional results date. And that tort is then the FIRST exam to be held a bare week later. It’s extremely unfair. It’s worrying to be putting so much into starting a career with the LS when they clearly just do not care about us or our mental health.

I would love to do something petitionwise, preferably I’d want my results quicker but perhaps even try for another sitting of Tort/EU a month later?

Also with regards the number of students who sat them, I sat tort in Cork and there was max 50 students in the only hall used. I know there was one other cork venue and heard of 2 Dublin ones. Unless there was multiple rooms in the other venues that leaves approx 200 students.

So does your exam number have no bearing on the amount of students ? I genuinely thought that’s how it worked, my exam number was over 2000. There were three cork ones and three Dublin ones with 50 in each room. There were multiple rooms used in the venue I was in

03-09-2020 08:50PM

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

So does your exam number have no bearing on the amount of students ? I genuinely thought that’s how it worked, my exam number was over 2000. There were three cork ones and three Dublin ones with 50 in each room

It may do! I just didn’t think it added up to over 2000 as I had only heard of the metropole and rochestown Park in cork and croke park and The RDS in Dublin so estimated 200. My number was in the 500s alright so perhaps the 2000 is a combination of students sitting EU and Tort?

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