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Lawlaw12

htnor wrote: »

At the end of the day this was a rescheduled additional sitting. For anyone like me who hadn’t even registered to sit them in March it was an added bonus to have sat them in August.

For a lot of us this was not an additional sitting - we had been registered to sit this exam in March and were left in the dark for months waiting for it to be rescheduled.

And for anyone in this situation who has a training contract lined up and starting before the March 2021 sitting, October is our last opportunity to pass, so giving us one weeks notice is extremely unfair.

FE1Rookie

I don't see how 1 person can mark hundreds of papers in time, as much as I'd like to get my results asap. Plus marking papers isn't their sole job as far as I know. Not trying to undermine anyone's efforts but what can they do? I'm certainly not being sympathetic to the LS, as they have failed us many, many times, however what can be done?

I would not want the examiner to rush through it and just jot down any auld marks to fly through them for the sake of people getting their results earlier. I could be wrong now, but isn't it just the internal examiner that marks the paper initially and the external one does the rechecks...so I really don't see any way this can be expidited as we all would like.

Plus the October exams can't be delayed. People will need them done in October so they can start the hybrid course.

Like this sucks for me, and a lot of us, but not much can be done can there?

aisoburke1994

I see a lot of people posting "there's not much we can do here" or "they won't change the exams" or so on.

I realise they held an additional sitting in August due to the March examinations, but we are living in extremely unprecedented times. There is a global pandemic going on and we have only been told yesterday when these examinations will happen. The applications are not even out yet.

There might not be much we can do, but we might as well try? These exams are stressful enough. I agree with hnou, let people have a choice, have two sittings. It's only fair to every student.

hnum0

It seems that if it is possible to have two sitting, that would make a lot of sense - one that is earlier for people who are in the hybrid program, or people who just feel well prepared and want to take it sooner, and then one that is in November to allow people awaiting results to make a decision on retakes if they need to. This would also help make the distancing guidelines easier, less people sitting at the same time.

Boltabb

Can I ask if anybody else here didn't get results yesterday, who has passed all exams other than the August sitting?

IgoPAP

Hate to say it, but there's no way they're changing the October dates for the exam. They're already making preparations for it.

Fe1student1234

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh I thought the restriction at the time was still 50 per room? I dunno anyway... we all sat the exams/had our exams cancelled through extenuating circumstances on no fault of our own and I think the LS could have made provisions for examiners/themselves to get the results out so not to affect us in our next sitting too

Yeah it was 50 per room but they used multiple rooms and the big halls and dining room.

I agree they should have but it’s possibly more complicated than we think it’s unprecedented for everyone involved. The results definitely should not be released only a week before the exams

[Deleted User]

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

Yeah I assume it’s a combination of both so that’s why I assumed/ guessed around 1000 students in each exam.

I think there was another cork one and then the law society was a venue and there were around 200 in that I think possibly more or slightly less.

Oh I thought the restriction at the time was still 50 per room? I dunno anyway... we all sat the exams/had our exams cancelled through extenuating circumstances on no fault of our own and I think the LS could have made provisions for examiners/themselves to get the results out so not to affect us in our next sitting too

Fe1student1234

Deleted User wrote: »

It may do! I just didn’t think it added up to over 2000 as I had only heard of the metropole and rochestown Park in cork and croke park and The RDS in Dublin so estimated 200. My number was in the 500s alright so perhaps the 2000 is a combination of students sitting EU and Tort?

Yeah I assume it’s a combination of both so that’s why I assumed/ guessed around 1000 students in each exam.

I think there was another cork one and then the law society was a venue and there were around 200 in that I think possibly more or slightly less.

[Deleted User]

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

So does your exam number have no bearing on the amount of students ? I genuinely thought that’s how it worked, my exam number was over 2000. There were three cork ones and three Dublin ones with 50 in each room

It may do! I just didn’t think it added up to over 2000 as I had only heard of the metropole and rochestown Park in cork and croke park and The RDS in Dublin so estimated 200. My number was in the 500s alright so perhaps the 2000 is a combination of students sitting EU and Tort?

Fe1student1234

Deleted User wrote: »

I’m actually speechless with the provisional results date. And that tort is then the FIRST exam to be held a bare week later. It’s extremely unfair. It’s worrying to be putting so much into starting a career with the LS when they clearly just do not care about us or our mental health.

I would love to do something petitionwise, preferably I’d want my results quicker but perhaps even try for another sitting of Tort/EU a month later?

Also with regards the number of students who sat them, I sat tort in Cork and there was max 50 students in the only hall used. I know there was one other cork venue and heard of 2 Dublin ones. Unless there was multiple rooms in the other venues that leaves approx 200 students.

So does your exam number have no bearing on the amount of students ? I genuinely thought that’s how it worked, my exam number was over 2000. There were three cork ones and three Dublin ones with 50 in each room. There were multiple rooms used in the venue I was in

[Deleted User]

I’m actually speechless with the provisional results date. And that tort is then the FIRST exam to be held a bare week later. It’s extremely unfair. It’s worrying to be putting so much into starting a career with the LS when they clearly just do not care about us or our mental health.

I would love to do something petitionwise, preferably I’d want my results quicker but perhaps even try for another sitting of Tort/EU a month later?

Also with regards the number of students who sat them, I sat tort in Cork and there was max 50 students in the only hall used. I know there was one other cork venue and heard of 2 Dublin ones. Unless there was multiple rooms in the other venues that leaves approx 200 students.

LS3

LJones18 wrote: »

I think they definitely should be postponed given we might only get results a week or so before.

I dont think we need to be petitioning them to move the October exams. I think we need to be petitioning them to move the results date forward!

Fe1student1234

Tbh I think we have to realize there are only two examiners that are allowed correct our scripts. They had over 1000 in each exam. While I do think that the results for everyone else are a bit late in September I don’t think we could have expected them within 3 weeks when the usual process is 6.

LJones18

I think they definitely should be postponed given we might only get results a week or so before.

Fe1student1234

Lallers96 wrote: »

Half tempted not to even look at my results for fear it's bad news, because that would destroy my morale for Octobers exams and would cause a lot of stress and hassle chasing the law society on the scripts, and doing a recheck..

I’m thinking the same tbh. Can’t afford to mess up this sitting thinking about the August ones.

aisoburke1994

I would be open to start a petition. Currently I am working abroad, so it would be great if they could be moved

Lallers96

November is way too late. We just have to accept, as crap as it is, that if someone fails one of Tort or EU, that you'll just have to sit it in March for a resit, if you don't pass on a recheck.

jewels652

For those starting ppc1 I got a information pack from the ls but it doesn’t seem to be the right one. How many forms should I submit ?
I have form 1, form 2A, and annexed 1 and 2A but somewhere else I see form 4,5 and 6. Can somebody please help me not getting much guidance from the ls.

Thanks

LJones18

Has anyone had trouble actually logging onto the law society's website?

I have been trying every day and it doesn't load up for me.

Lallers96

Half tempted not to even look at my results for fear it's bad news, because that would destroy my morale for Octobers exams and would cause a lot of stress and hassle chasing the law society on the scripts, and doing a recheck..

Bex20

The LS aren’t going to change the date for the results and I can’t see how emailing to complain about the date is going to get anyone anywhere. People are still waiting for copies of scripts since May so the chances of even getting to see the script or get a recheck before October is highly unlikely.

The exams are normally only held in March and October. The sitting in August was an additional sitting and was mainly people for people heading to Blackhall in September or who had originally applied to sit the exams in March. It just so happened that other people were lucky they were able to benefit from it and apply to sit the exams.

I would be planning to sit/ be studying for other subjects and if needs be resit in March. In saying that I know that the LS have excepted applications after the deadline date before but that would mean studying for tort or eu now as well as anything else which could be a waste of time.

nicolesd

i have emailed the law society there complaining about the provisional date i think its so unfair! it leaves next to no time to prepare if we end up failing! its absolutely shocking!

Iso_123

Oh my god the results being released the week before the October exam is a disaster:( That certainly will not do anything for the nerves if it turns out we failed..

IgoPAP

Fe1 wrote: »

'August 2020 FE-1 results. The provisional date for the release of results of the above examination is Monday 28 September.'
I guess all repeats for Tort and EU will have to be in March?

Dear God. I thought its being released in the third week of September so that re-checks can be applied before the 16th? Now it's being released at the end of September? Huh?

Fe1

'August 2020 FE-1 results. The provisional date for the release of results of the above examination is Monday 28 September.'
I guess all repeats for Tort and EU will have to be in March?

Fe1

Hey, does anyone have papers for or even know the topics that came up in - Property March 2020, Contract March 2020, Criminal March 2020? Any help would be much appreciated!

IgoPAP

Being able to write reams of pages is not at all impressive or an indication of a good answer anyways. The biggest criticism found in the Examiners Report is that students write on irrelevant topics or issues, or scribe out pre-prepared answers.

A short, succinct 2 page answer that hits on all the points is much better than some rambling nonsense that goes on for 7 pages.

Coopie

Dliodoir2020 wrote: »

Just wanting to know what experiences people had with rechecks.

The €115 cost seems prohibitively expensive but, if your mark increases is the amount refunded? What's the turnaround time?

I got 43% in Tort which I feel is quite low because I thought I passed it when I came out of the exam. Is there any point in rechecking it because it feels like the gap is too great?

Get it rechecked. It will take ages to get a refund though.

Lealaw

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

Honestly it depends on the question and your handwriting. Mine have ranged from 6/7 pages to some questions only writing 2.5/3 pages.
If you’ve answered the question and hit the main points in 3 pages then I’d say that’d be enough to write

Wowzer, fair play hitting 6-7 and still completing all 5 questions, that's fast writing. Thanks for letting me know!