FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Coopie

Booker4 wrote: »

I just want to confirm that 50% is a pass!!

Yes 50% is a pass.

lsheehaneire

Personal email "Please note result release date should be third week of September 2020."

LS3

lsheehaneire wrote: »

Personal email "Please note result release date should be third week of September 2020."

This is unacceptable!

Coopie

lsheehaneire wrote: »

Personal email "Please note result release date should be third week of September 2020."

That’s super annoying. I thought we would get them by the end of this week. What if we need to get a recheck?

Wonderstruck

*shouting over confusing chaos in this thread* All I want is the hardcopy of my March 2020 results!

Fe1student1234

Wonderstruck wrote: »

*shouting over confusing chaos in this thread* All I want is the hardcopy of my March 2020 results!

Haha I also never got my results letter!

L.E.D

lsheehaneire wrote: »

Results for the rest of us are the 3rd week of September, just received email from Law society. Congrats to everyone who is on the way to blackhall, enjoy the celebrations !!

That's cutting it a bit fine is it not? Isn't tort the 6th

Lallers96

So hang on a second. We're going to get the results 2 weeks before the next sitting. What a ****ing joke. That's not enough time for rechecks, and what happens if you fail it quite badly and want to resit in August? You can't because by then the ****ing deadline will be passed for the application. What a bunch of disorganised fools. Never had any issue with colleges taking so fecking long to mark papers or answer simple queries by email or answer the phone.. Urgghhh

FE.ONE

Looking for an up to date Equity and Criminal grid if anyone would be so kind, have plenty to swap.

Ignacius

Hi All,
If anybody has the latest constitutional and contract grids I would be thrilled to swap for sample answers or whatever you need for other subjects. Cheers

nmurphy1441

Looking for contract sample answers if anyone has them. Have some material I can swap if needs be!

L.E.D

Can anyone else relate to Jessica?? Lol

L.E.D

Lallers96 wrote: »

So hang on a second. We're going to get the results 2 weeks before the next sitting. What a ****ing joke. That's not enough time for rechecks, and what happens if you fail it quite badly and want to resit in August? You can't because by then the ****ing deadline will be passed for the application. What a bunch of disorganised fools. Never had any issue with colleges taking so fecking long to mark papers or answer simple queries by email or answer the phone.. Urgghhh

Be extremely unfair if you fail but presumed you did well, you can't resit it on October then, obviously the notes would need to be updated and changed to get a pass second time around, joke!

L.E.D

FE.ONE wrote: »

Looking for an up to date Equity and Criminal grid if anyone would be so kind, have plenty to swap.

Pm me email and I can send equity 😊

jewels652

I was offered a traineeship so I’ll be staring ppc1 next week. I just have a question when we finish ppc1 will we go to ppc2 immediately or do we have to do in office training for a few months and then go to ppc2

rightytighty

jewels652 wrote: »

I was offered a traineeship so I’ll be staring ppc1 next week. I just have a question when we finish ppc1 will we go to ppc2 immediately or do we have to do in office training for a few months and then go to ppc2

PPC1 is September to March, then April - March in office, then PPC2 April - August followed by final seat and then qualification

Fe1VanWilder

L.E.D wrote: »

Be extremely unfair if you fail but presumed you did well, you can't resit it on October then, obviously the notes would need to be updated and changed to get a pass second time around, joke!

I’m in that exact category. I wonder how long it will take them to send out copies of exam scripts this time

L.E.D

Fe1VanWilder wrote: »

I’m in that exact category. I wonder how long it will take them to send out copies of exam scripts this time

It just all feels very unorganised to be honest! I'm waiting on EU results, and faced with the decision of waiting till March of I fail, even thou it's still fairly fresh in my head since i just sat it!

Healyjhow

Hey guys just wondering if anyone has sample answers for criminal/property/equity or contract? I have all materials and sample answers for Eu, tort and constitutional that I’d be happy to swap ☺️

hullaballoo

Louis Litt wrote: »

Passed both EU and Tort. Expected to fail Tort as i answered the intensional inflection of emotional distress Q on Nervous Shock, so for anyone else that did same, you will get the marks for it.

I was initially surprised to see this come up (again) as an issue.

Whatever way Tort is being taught, this is confusing students year in year out.

Intentional infliction of emotional distress and nervous shock are not different torts. NS isn't even a tort, it's an injury. I had a look back at other threads and found the below. If anyone can suggest a way for me to make this clearer, please go ahead...

hullaballoo wrote: »

iamanengine wrote: »

Well, that is confusing haha

I got a grid off someone doing the city colleges course and that question is marked as Trespass to the Person not Nervous Shock.

Also the way its phrased - Advise Mary (the tortfeasor) as to any potential liability in tort law that she may have - her liability would be under the tort of infliction of emotional distress. If it was Nervous Shock I am thinking it would ask whether Joseph has any recourse under Tort, which would be under Nervous Shock.

Infliction of Emotional Distress being the Tort and Nervous Shock being the type of injury.

Maybe he allowed it seeing as the Q is kind of ambiguous?

Not sure though, I definitely could be wrong!

Edit - I just checked the examiner report. He says "A question on the issue of intentional infliction of emotional distress..."

hullaballoo wrote: »

Nervous shock is not a tort in the way that intentional infliction of emotional distress is. Nervous shock is a condition that may be a result of a tort (wrong) but it is not a wrong itself.

So any given question can be about one or both the tort of intentional infliction of emotional distress and nervous shock.

Conflating the two concepts would cause confusion. I will try and clarify by reference to more accessible torts and conditions.

Take the tort of negligence. The wrong is the negligent act or omission that gives rise to loss, injury, damage etc. A straightforward example is concussion suffered as a result of being rear-ended in a car crash. The tort or wrong is the negligent driving (failing to stop, driving at an excessive speed, failure to keep a proper look out etc.) The loss, injury, damage is the concussion.

In an intentional infliction of emotional distress case, the tort is the intentional or reckless infliction of emotional distress and the loss, injury, damage etc. might be nervous shock. So to continue with a road traffic scenario by way of analogy, if someone drives so erratically and in such a dangerous way as to give other road users such a fright that one or more of them develop nervous shock, for example, an out of control driver mounting a footpath at a busy bus stop but miraculously failing to hit any pedestrians might still cause loss or damage to people at the bus stop from their wrongdoing. This may be held to be the tort of intentional infliction of emotional distress and some of the rather fortunate unfortunates at the bus stop may develop nervous shock and have a case against the driver of the vehicle.

THIS POST IS ABOUT NERVOUS SHOCK VS. INTENTIONAL INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!!

Hopefully that settles it.

The real shame is that there's any confusion in the first place tbh because it should be made crystal clear they are entirely different concepts every time lecturers encounter them.

C.A.D

Has anyone heard of any TCs going for 2020?

JCormac

lsheehaneire wrote: »

Results for the rest of us are the 3rd week of September, just received email from Law society. Congrats to everyone who is on the way to blackhall, enjoy the celebrations !!

That's mental. So irritated over this. Was checking all morning to see if any results came through.

So essentially it's either be safe and keep re-revising for EU and Tort from today in case the worst happens or take the chance and start revising if/when you find out you failed something at the end of September which gives zilch time for study when working full-time.

The very least they could have done was made Tort one of the last exams (like EU) rather than it being the very first exam, on the 6th.

Either way, no way of re-checks it seems.

Law Society has done a lot of questionable sh*t the last 12 months but they've outdone themselves with this one.

EAL2019

Lallers96 wrote: »

So hang on a second. We're going to get the results 2 weeks before the next sitting. What a ****ing joke. That's not enough time for rechecks, and what happens if you fail it quite badly and want to resit in August? You can't because by then the ****ing deadline will be passed for the application. What a bunch of disorganised fools. Never had any issue with colleges taking so fecking long to mark papers or answer simple queries by email or answer the phone.. Urgghhh

Doesn’t take away from how stressful it is and how badly the Law Society have managed things, but just to say that I really wouldn’t worry about being past the deadline to apply for October sittings, if you do fail.

I’ve had to ring them before because I wasn’t going to get my application form in in time for a deadline and they told me it doesn’t matter and they basically just have to put a deadline of some form. You’d be paying them €105, they won’t turn you down just because it’s a bit late.

Iso_123

Does anyone have the March 2020 Property paper or perhaps know what topics came up? Thanks!

lawgirl23

I also got the “there’s no results” message when I logged in.

I emailed this morning asking specifically when I could expect my results and what the timeline was for rechecks as I was concerned there wouldn’t be sufficient time for a recheck before application for the October sitting.

Reply was that not all results were being issued to candidates this week and that they will be in touch regarding the release date. No mention of 3rd week in September (or any date for that matter), but I do note on the results page that it says applications for rechecks must be submitted by 16 September so I guess we will get results before then?

Can’t we usually view our paper before paying 115€ for the recheck? As far as I was aware the recheck was a check that the marks were added up right, not that you were given the right marks if that makes sense.

LawCopy16

The thing that I don't understand about all of this is that it says on the website that "If a physical sitting of the examination is not possible, the Committee will consider alternative options" but on the timetable itself it says that if a physical sitting of the exam is not possible " we will contact all candidates immediately and a full refund of fees will be issued" which suggests that the exam would be cancelled completely.

So do they mean that if it can't go ahead physically that they will find an alternative (remote sitting) or that they will cancel it completely?

Bex20

LawCopy16 wrote: »

The thing that I don't understand about all of this is that it says on the website that "If a physical sitting of the examination is not possible, the Committee will consider alternative options" but on the timetable itself it says that if a physical sitting of the exam is not possible " we will contact all candidates immediately and a full refund of fees will be issued" which suggests that the exam would be cancelled completely.

So do they mean that if it can't go ahead physically that they will find an alternative (remote sitting) or that they will cancel it completely?

Well I’m hoping they will have an alternative as I’m meant to be doing the Hybrid PPC and need to sit an exam in October and pass it, so I can go in December/January

rightytighty

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Can’t we usually view our paper before paying 115€ for the recheck? As far as I was aware the recheck was a check that the marks were added up right, not that you were given the right marks if that makes sense.

After March they scanned me my script as they would do when you request it under GDPR because a physical viewing session wasn’t possible so definitely try that. I also came up 9% from a recheck before in circumstances where there was no error in calculation of original marks.

lsheehaneire

I am also hoping to start the hybrid in dec/jan. The refund probably means that the cost to sit the exam from the comfort of your own home will not be the same as would be charged to physically sit the exam in various venues , so maybe there will will be a slight refund based on the difference? It's quite clear when people are communicating with the LS individually we are all getting different answers. They told me the third week in September so technically that could be as early as the 14th ....we will have to wait and see 🙈