How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

JDD · 02-09-2020 10:13AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Question - suppose say Sean in my daughter's 5th Class tests positive and the whole Class is sent home for 14 days. Our daughter shows no symptoms.
Will our daughter be offered a Test ?
If not, can we get our asymptomatic daughter tested if we wish ?

You can pay €180 for a private test.

There seems to be two tiers of close contacts now for schoolkids. The first tier - their close friends that they play with in the yard and/or afterschool, and the children sitting at their "pod". Those contacts are offered a test. Then the second tier is the rest of the class, who are only offered a test if they show symptoms, and otherwise have to stay at home for 14 days.

02-09-2020 10:14AM

meeeeh wrote: »

I thought it's grandparents you expect to mind your kids... So it would be your parents home.

Its for things like protecting grandparents why I'd be keeping them home. Not really sure what point you are trying to make though.

pwurple · 02-09-2020 10:16AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Well they won't be testing any other kids in the class unless they develop symptoms so we actually don't know how many it will result in.

That's not correct. All close contacts are tested at the moment. That's why they are running at 62,000 tests a week, with only a few hundred coming out as positive... people are tested, symptomatic or not.

SusanC10 · 02-09-2020 10:17AM

JDD wrote: »

You can pay €180 for a private test.

There seems to be two tiers of close contacts now for schoolkids. The first tier - their close friends that they play with in the yard and/or afterschool, and the children sitting at their "pod". Those contacts are offered a test. Then the second tier is the rest of the class, who are only offered a test if they show symptoms, and otherwise have to stay at home for 14 days.

There are no Pods in our school. 2 Classes are a Bubble apparently.

Hadn't heard about the 2 Tiers and was wondering if the whole Class would be tested.

SusanC10 · 02-09-2020 10:18AM

pwurple wrote: »

That's not correct. All close contacts are tested at the moment. That's why they are running at 62,000 tests a week, with only a few hundred coming out as positive... people are tested, symptomatic or not.

So in my example then our daughter would be tested?

Non solum non ambulabit · 02-09-2020 10:19AM

JoeA3 wrote: »

^^^ Ignore this fella's idiotic posts. ^^^

He's been ranting and raving hysterically across multiple forums for months. Infuriating rubbish. Why he's even in here (no school going child, seemingly clueless when it comes to all things parenting) is anyone's guess.

My little girl started primary school this week and I wouldn't swap her out of it for the world. She's getting on so well and its so important for her (and for myself and her mother) that this week went ahead as it did. Her school and their staff are doing an excellent job in the circumstances.

I just received an email from the School, a letter that was sent to them from Dr. Ronan Glynn, explaining the reasons why school is so important to children, and on balance, why the schools had to open - which is well worth a read if anyone's received it.

Exactly my experience too. My little girl has started junior infants and it has been such a great time for all of us. I can see a change in her already. She is absolutely delighted to be playing with girls her own age.

School and teachers have been brilliant.

seamus · 02-09-2020 10:21AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

So in my example then our daughter would be tested?

Yes. She'd be offered a test.

iamwhoiam · 02-09-2020 10:28AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

There are no Pods in our school. 2 Classes are a Bubble apparently.

Hadn't heard about the 2 Tiers and was wondering if the whole Class would be tested.

As far as I can make out from my granddaughter the pod is the four kids at her table .She is only allowed be with her pod indoors but can play with her class ( bubble ) outdoors in the yard

SusanC10 · 02-09-2020 10:31AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

As far as I can make out from my granddaughter the pod is the four kids at her table .She is only allowed be with her pod indoors but can play with her class ( bubble ) outdoors in the yard

There are 2 Kids to a Table in our school. Daughter seems to be mixing with entire Class both indoors and outdoors. Also both Classes were together in the school hall. So approx 53 Kids. 1 Bubble.

JDD · 02-09-2020 10:31AM

My little girl started primary school this week and I wouldn't swap her out of it for the world.

I have to say I agree. My two were happy enough at home for the first couple of months. Myself and my husband worked shifts, our jobs allowing us to basically work part time for full pay. We did home school, and art and walks and sports and all that jazz. But at some point in June I started to run out of ideas, and we slipped from the end of "home school" term into the summer. My oldest said that it didn't really feel like summer holidays, as her day wasn't really different to term time. And at the same time both our jobs started to go back to full time jobs, as all the deadlines we had pushed out and delayed were now pending.

So my kids watched tv. And their tablets. And started not sleeping very well because of all the screentime. They were ready to kill each other by 10am each morning as they were just sick of each others company. They started eating more treats, as I knew they were bored and annoyed and they are too young to be allowed play around the estate on their own. The five year old burst into tears one day in August saying that she was sick of everything and I was always working. I don't think kids that age can get depressed per se, but this staying at home was all beginning to have some proper effects on them, and I was starting to worry that those effects wouldn't be easily reversed.

So then school started last week. And even the 5 year old, who's not so academic (so far anyway) wore up at 6.30 on Monday morning wanted to go into school early. They are so so happy to be back - full of stories and what they did and who was at school and can X come for a playdate and how nice their teacher is and what games they played in the yard.

School is definitely the place for kids. Six months was way way too long. If we had known back then what we know now, schools would have been the last thing to close - after the pubs and shops and sports events. And I hope they are the last thing to close, if things come to that, this time around as well.

Jinglejangle69 · 02-09-2020 10:35AM

Adrianna Gigantic Moth wrote: »

I would be the exact opposite, I hate seeing these groups hanging around breaking all the guidelines and it reminds me why schools should not have even considered opening never mind actually be open.

As for schools is the place for kids? Rubbish - home is the place for kids during a pandemic. I applaud any parent who makes the decision to keep their children at home to see how things pan out, if I had a school going aged child I wouldn't even have considered sending them to school.

This is insanity, it's like a mental block by those making the rules. If a single student in a school tests positive the entire school should be closed immediately for 2 weeks and not re-opened again until all staff and students test negative.

We are going to be in full lockdown again in a month or 1.5 months time. No skin off my nose, I dont mind being locked down but some people are going to lose their sh*t over their "freedoms" or other such nonsense, the same people pushing for schools to reopen and having little respect for guidelines.

Thank god we have experts making decisions and not people like yourself.

JoeA3 · 02-09-2020 10:36AM

JDD wrote: »

School is definitely the place for kids. Six months was way way too long. If we had known back then what we know now, schools would have been the last thing to close - after the pubs and shops and sports events. And I hope they are the last thing to close, if things come to that, this time around as well.

Snippet from Ronan Glynn's letter below. Perhaps people should read this rather than some of the hysterical rubbish...

meeeeh · 02-09-2020 10:44AM

Adrianna Gigantic Moth wrote: »

Its for things like protecting grandparents why I'd be keeping them home. Not really sure what point you are trying to make though.

You could keep your kids away from the grandparents and keep them in school. That probably wouldn't suit though because you would have to find someone to mind them after school.

Digs · 02-09-2020 10:44AM

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Hope all turns out well. Will you post an update if you don't mind ?

Of course, no problem!

PCros · 02-09-2020 10:48AM

JDD wrote: »

I have to say I agree. My two were happy enough at home for the first couple of months. Myself and my husband worked shifts, our jobs allowing us to basically work part time for full pay. We did home school, and art and walks and sports and all that jazz. But at some point in June I started to run out of ideas, and we slipped from the end of "home school" term into the summer. My oldest said that it didn't really feel like summer holidays, as her day wasn't really different to term time. And at the same time both our jobs started to go back to full time jobs, as all the deadlines we had pushed out and delayed were now pending.

So my kids watched tv. And their tablets. And started not sleeping very well because of all the screentime. They were ready to kill each other by 10am each morning as they were just sick of each others company. They started eating more treats, as I knew they were bored and annoyed and they are too young to be allowed play around the estate on their own. The five year old burst into tears one day in August saying that she was sick of everything and I was always working. I don't think kids that age can get depressed per se, but this staying at home was all beginning to have some proper effects on them, and I was starting to worry that those effects wouldn't be easily reversed.

So then school started last week. And even the 5 year old, who's not so academic (so far anyway) wore up at 6.30 on Monday morning wanted to go into school early. They are so so happy to be back - full of stories and what they did and who was at school and can X come for a playdate and how nice their teacher is and what games they played in the yard.

School is definitely the place for kids. Six months was way way too long. If we had known back then what we know now, schools would have been the last thing to close - after the pubs and shops and sports events. And I hope they are the last thing to close, if things come to that, this time around as well.

No, no, no that's all pure lies! You were off drinking wine in the gym or something!

Well written post, very honest. Thank you.

greenspurs · 02-09-2020 10:53AM

child wakes up with a cough ..
mother rings doc -- you have to be tested for covid …

you all have to self isolate...

mother rings partner at work.
he informs supervisor
he has to go home.

A cough.... a fcuking cough.
Same as most kids get when they return to school , every year.
Paranioa is fever pitch.
The hysteria is real.
Congrats NPHET & our 'Government' .

JDD · 02-09-2020 11:00AM

greenspurs wrote: »

child wakes up with a cough ..
mother rings doc -- you have to be tested for covid …

you all have to self isolate...

mother rings partner at work.
he informs supervisor
he has to go home.

A cough.... a fcuking cough.
Same as most kids get when they return to school , every year.
Paranioa is fever pitch.
The hysteria is real.
Congrats NPHET & our 'Government' .

in fairness though, if the kid goes for a test today, and gets the results tomorrow - which will more than likely be negative - they can go back to school on Friday (presuming the cough is gone) and his da can go back to work. It's not a HUGE sacrifice. And it's only his immediate family.

Personally I think, when it turns out that there isn't massive outbreaks in schools over the next six-eight weeks, the government will start lifting the restrictions on sports spectators and no-food pubs.

There will be these days where you'll have to stay at home for a day or two while a family member gets a test, but it's not the end of the world.

Blondini · 02-09-2020 11:02AM

Thread has gone full on ridiculing and labelling as hysterical anyone who is at all concerned about schools.

We'll see.

Unreg0909 · 02-09-2020 11:05AM

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Social media is full of parents from the school and area. I wrote Apparently because this is not first hand information, but the story I have seen throughout various fb groups from various 'apparent' parents from the school in Rathcoole[/quote]

I am a parent from the school and they area and can tell you for a fact that those stories circulating on fb groups (hardly a reliable source) are absolute rubbish.

greenspurs · 02-09-2020 11:06AM

JDD wrote: »

in fairness though, if the kid goes for a test today, and gets the results tomorrow - which will more than likely be negative - they can go back to school on Friday (presuming the cough is gone) and his da can go back to work. It's not a HUGE sacrifice. And it's only his immediate family.

Personally I think, when it turns out that there isn't massive outbreaks in schools over the next six-eight weeks, the government will start lifting the restrictions on sports spectators and no-food pubs.

There will be these days where you'll have to stay at home for a day or two while a family member gets a test, but it's not the end of the world.

Are kids tested ?

Using that rationale , we will all be off work/being tested over the next few weeks...

He was in work with us this morning....
yes, we have masks, distancing … blah blah blah......

seamus · 02-09-2020 11:45AM

greenspurs wrote: »

Are kids tested ?

Yes.

Using that rationale , we will all be off work/being tested over the next few weeks...

Why?

TonyMaloney · 02-09-2020 11:45AM

Another primary school in Dublin

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/coronavirus-ireland-dublin-schools-latest-18864552

Jinglejangle69 · 02-09-2020 11:52AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Another primary school in Dublin

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/coronavirus-ireland-dublin-schools-latest-18864552

Been dealt with.

Great it's picked up.

greenspurs · 02-09-2020 11:55AM

seamus wrote: »

Yes.
Why?

Because the majority of kids develop common cold and coughs during sept/oct when they return to school....

So, we will all be getting tested ….

JDD · 02-09-2020 12:00PM

Good that these positive cases are being picked up so soon. Much less chance of them turning into clusters.

Locotastic · 02-09-2020 12:02PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Been dealt with.

Great it's picked up.

It is par for the course now, hopefully they'll eventually get tired of reporting every single case in schools. Only those directly impacted need to know.

Look at the scaremongering in the article "killer virus" talk about trying to stir panic.

seamus · 02-09-2020 12:02PM

greenspurs wrote: »

Because the majority of kids develop common cold and coughs during sept/oct when they return to school....

So, we will all be getting tested ….

Nah, it's already been said that the odd sniffle and sneeze is no big deal.

Coughs and colds spread like wildfire because parents send their kids in to infect everyone else, and schools ignore it. Parents shouldn't be sending sick kids in this time around, but even if they do the school has to act and isolate the child.

So it's all very different this year.

josip · 02-09-2020 12:33PM

seamus wrote: »

Nah, it's already been said that the odd sniffle and sneeze is no big deal.

Coughs and colds spread like wildfire because parents send their kids in to infect everyone else, and schools ignore it. Parents shouldn't be sending sick kids in this time around, but even if they do the school has to act and isolate the child.

So it's all very different this year.

Our school actually encourages it by giving out attendance awards at the end of every year.

As far as I know, sniffles and sneezes are being considered as just normal cold symptoms in children in school, whereas coughs are treated with more suspicion.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/symptoms.html

02-09-2020 12:35PM

greenspurs wrote: »

child wakes up with a cough ..
mother rings doc -- you have to be tested for covid …

you all have to self isolate...

mother rings partner at work.
he informs supervisor
he has to go home.

A cough.... a fcuking cough.
Same as most kids get when they return to school , every year.
Paranioa is fever pitch.
The hysteria is real.
Congrats NPHET & our 'Government' .

Great to hear that it’s being taken seriously.

Honestly people going into work with coughs and colds and spreading them shouldn’t be happening even in normal times never mind the fact there is a covid risk.

Can’t believe people are actually complaining and calling this paranoia, it’s is very far from paranoia to be very cautious in the middle of a pandemic. I can’t believe how thick people are really, I knew people were some what think but covid is showing the level of brain dead people we have walking around this country.

Gerry Hatrick · 02-09-2020 12:38PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Another primary school in Dublin

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/coronavirus-ireland-dublin-schools-latest-18864552

Terrible

How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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