How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

sideswipe · 01-09-2020 08:40PM

isup wrote: »

Would you think excercising in the class on rainy days should be allowed? My child (primary) said on the first 2 days they did this. Seems like madness to me and I was discussed really.

Why would you be disgusted? (presume thats what you meant?)
Being outside more often is one sure fire way to reduce exposure to the virus.
They just need to dressed accordingly.

iamwhoiam · 01-09-2020 08:47PM

isup wrote: »

Would you think excercising in the class on rainy days should be allowed? My child (primary) said on the first 2 days they did this. Seems like madness to me and I was discussed really.

Our local school asked parents to put a light raincoat in the bag because they would be going out even in the rain

Digs · 01-09-2020 08:56PM

My 4yr old got back to Naionra on Wednesday and by Thursday had sniffles and a bit of a throat. No temp or cough. By yesterday she had gifted it to her younger sister but it also came with a temp of 39.5!
Rang the GP and she referred her for testing which she had this afternoon. She’s 21 months so it really wasn’t pleasant for her but over in seconds. The nurse let me sit in the back of the car with her and hold her hands. She also said I had the right to object to the nasal swab due to her age but that it was the most conclusive one so I let her go for it.

We’re waiting for results but until then both her older sisters are home from Naionra/school. Hoping there’s a quick enough turnaround. It’s disruptive but has to be done. The back to school had been hugely positive in this house, their teachers/schools have done Trojan work in terms of safety etc and the older two were so happy the last few days, the fog of the last few months had lifted and we were feeling so good . Hopefully their stay at home is brief.

limnam · 01-09-2020 09:10PM

Still amazed at the amount of wans outside the schools in groups, no masks yacking morning and afternoons.

The children often have more sense.

byhookorbycrook · 01-09-2020 09:11PM

Digs wrote: »

My 4yr old got back to Naionra on Wednesday and by Thursday had sniffles and a bit of a throat. No temp or cough. By yesterday she had gifted it to her younger sister but it also came with a temp of 39.5!
Rang the GP and she referred her for testing which she had this afternoon. She’s 21 months so it really wasn’t pleasant for her but over in seconds. The nurse let me sit in the back of the car with her and hold her hands. She also said I had the right to object to the nasal swab due to her age but that it was the most conclusive one so I let her go for it.

We’re waiting for results but until then both her older sisters are home from Naionra/school. Hoping there’s a quick enough turnaround. It’s disruptive but has to be done. The back to school had been hugely positive in this house, their teachers/schools have done Trojan work in terms of safety etc and the older two were so happy the last few days, the fog of the last few months had lifted and we were feeling so good . Hopefully their stay at home is brief.

Hoping all will be well.

Digs · 01-09-2020 09:30PM

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Hoping all will be well.

Thank you so much

LilyShame · 01-09-2020 10:03PM

Well that's it. How do some ppl. have these details on the school closure. Lots of assumption... Generalisation... Stigma....jumping on very very high horses. Why have we all gotten so good at judging and shaming each other?

quote="Unreg0909;114490611"]“Apparently” do your kids go to the school? Do you teach there?[/quote]

downthemiddle · 01-09-2020 10:07PM

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Dressoutlet · 01-09-2020 10:20PM

LilyShame wrote: »

Well that's it. How do some ppl. have these details on the school closure. Lots of assumption... Generalisation... Stigma....jumping on very very high horses. Why have we all gotten so good at judging and shaming each other?

quote="Unreg0909;114490611"]“Apparently” do your kids go to the school? Do you teach there?

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Social media is full of parents from the school and area. I wrote Apparently because this is not first hand information, but the story I have seen throughout various fb groups from various 'apparent' parents from the school in Rathcoole

SusieBlue · 01-09-2020 10:55PM

Logic appears to have gone out the window.
My goddaughter went back to school Friday, it’s a smaller than average sized school and the facilities reflect that. There are only three sets of bathrooms for either gender, with about 6 cubicles in each.

To prevent different classes and year groups from mixing, students are no longer permitted to go to the bathroom before school or during classes, where they might bump into each other.
Instead are only allowed to go at break time, which means that during that time pretty much the entire school is queueing up to use the loo.
They have teachers supervising to ensure distance is maintained and that the queue is moving but it still seems ridiculous to me.
Far more kids are in close contact than if they just let them go as needed. Since Friday, my goddaughter has spent the entirety of her daily 40 minute lunch break queuing to use the bathroom. Today she ate her sandwich while standing in the queue.
She said on all three days there were kids who didn’t make it to the top of the queue in time, who had to go back to class without having the chance to go, meaning they had to go the entire day without using the bathroom.

My friend contacted the school to ask what the story was and the principal told her it was a safety precaution, and that in cases of extreme urgency they will allow students go during class on a case by case basis, but the ‘incident’ will be written up & recorded in their school journals and will need to be signed by their parent that night, and that repeat cases may be punished.
So they are basically treating a normal bodily function as if it’s some sort of misdemeanour or behavioural issue, worthy of a note home to mam and dad?

Absolutely bizarre and makes no sense what so ever, these measures are so overzealous and completely counter productive.

Peter Flynt · 01-09-2020 11:36PM

mollser wrote: »

Back to school today. The atmosphere couldn't be anymore different than the hysterics that go on online. All adults social distancing etc, but very happy to see each other, have the chats, kids were so excited to get in and see their pals, socialise etc. School made great efforts to keep them safe, as normal as possible but with the hygiene etc layered on.

Most striking thing is that every parent we spoke to are seeing through the hysteria of this (but very prepared to continue with the basic precautions - facemasks, distancing, hygiene), all optimistic that the schools will stay open with the odd outbreak here and there, which provided you keep away from the vulnerable, is basically harmless to 99% of the population, as is borne out by the recent testing / hospital stats.

Thank God the internet isn't real life, real life is so much better!

Real life has led to nearly 1800 deaths.

That's 1800 loved ones lost with their families left to pick up the pieces.

Far better to listen to the professionals than someone coming on boards.ie whoring for likes.

01-09-2020 11:39PM

limnam wrote: »

Still amazed at the amount of wans outside the schools in groups, no masks yacking morning and afternoons.

The children often have more sense.

There should be someone at the gates with a power washer and direct it at anyone who even thinks about hanging around.

I will gladly volunteer.

UrbanSprawl · 01-09-2020 11:40PM

Great to see kids heading back to school ..was in X town today working and yes the kids were not socialing distance or wearing masks but they looked happy to back to school and meeeting their mates ..school is the place for kids if parents wanna keep their kids home they might find they will never be able to send them back

Jaded Walker · 02-09-2020 12:40AM

UrbanSprawl wrote: »

Great to see kids heading back to school ..was in X town today working and yes the kids were not socialing distance or wearing masks but they looked happy to back to school and meeeting their mates ..school is the place for kids if parents wanna keep their kids home they might find they will never be able to send them back

Ridiculous comment. Home schooling until teen years is a common enough practice in many places and most of those kids do well when they go to schools.

Also, we already have one case in a school and they are only back open. Let's see what happens in the next two weeks.
My kid is at home, he had a temperature last Thursday which was his return day and isn't allowed back until he sees his doctor.
He won't be going back either. It's pretty obvious already that we are going to have outbreaks in lots of schools. I'm happy to be wrong about that, but I could never forgive myself if he was one of the unlucky kids who ended up having pims or organ issues.
When it's clear the schools are safe he'll be going back but not before then.

And just to add, I'm not just worried about him, my wife is extremely high risk should she contract the virus so keeping him at home is keeping her safe too.
He's getting all his schoolwork and gets to go help me outside gardening too. He's very happy but wants to go back to school. We've explained the situation to him and he's happy to wait.

s1ippy · 02-09-2020 01:39AM

There should be a tally in here of all the schools cases so we don't lose track.

1. Dublin
https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2020/0901/1162526-coronavirus-school/

2. Armagh
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/a-further-217-covid-19-cases-reported-in-the-highest-daily-figure-since-may-1.4343926

isup · 02-09-2020 06:59AM

sideswipe wrote: »

Why would you be disgusted? (presume thats what you meant?)
Being outside more often is one sure fire way to reduce exposure to the virus.
They just need to dressed accordingly.

What I meant was that they excercise in the class beside their desks . Doing jumping jacks etc. I presume 30 kids excerting themselves in a small class would really be not advised.

wirelessdude01 · 02-09-2020 07:10AM

isup wrote: »

What I meant was that they excercise in the class beside their desks . Doing jumping jacks etc. I presume 30 kids excerting themselves in a small class would really be not advised.

What age are they?

mollser · 02-09-2020 08:08AM

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Real life has led to nearly 1800 deaths.

That's 1800 loved ones lost with their families left to pick up the pieces.

Far better to listen to the professionals than someone coming on boards.ie whoring for likes.

Peter,

With all due respect, I think you need to look a little bit beyond the headline numbers. There's plenty of analysis on here for you to read up on.

PCros · 02-09-2020 08:25AM

s1ippy wrote: »

There should be a tally in here of all the schools cases so we don't lose track.

1. Dublin
https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2020/0901/1162526-coronavirus-school/

2. Armagh
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/a-further-217-covid-19-cases-reported-in-the-highest-daily-figure-since-may-1.4343926

For people who won't click on the links that is currently 2 students out of 1.5 million students.

I'm on the go but could someone work out that percentage?

is_that_so · 02-09-2020 08:28AM

PCros wrote: »

For people who won't click on the links that is currently 2 students out of 1.5 million students.

I'm on the go but could someone work out that percentage?

It's tiny at 1 in 500,000 - we have 1m students.

PCros · 02-09-2020 08:30AM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's tiny at 1 in 500,000 - we have 1m students.

The poster included the north too hence higher figure.

iamwhoiam · 02-09-2020 09:22AM

s1ippy wrote: »

There should be a tally in here of all the schools cases so we don't lose track.

1. Dublin
https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2020/0901/1162526-coronavirus-school/

2. Armagh
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/a-further-217-covid-19-cases-reported-in-the-highest-daily-figure-since-may-1.4343926

Why would we need to keep a tally ? Thats a job for the HSE , DoE and NPHET .

caveat emptor · 02-09-2020 09:35AM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's tiny at 1 in 500,000 - we have 1m students.

Well they won't be testing any other kids in the class unless they develop symptoms so we actually don't know how many it will result in.

It's called patient zero for a reason. We are deliberately not testing reporting on subsequent secondary and tertiary infections in schools so we all get a nice warm and fuzzy feeling when someone posts a 1 in 500,000 statistic on day one.

Parents have to take their kids home and have to deal with the consequences of someone else's poor judgement in sending their kid to school while awaiting a test result.

facehugger99 · 02-09-2020 09:39AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Why would we need to keep a tally ? Thats a job for the HSE , DoE and NPHET .

To keep the hysteria stoked.

Ashbourne hoop · 02-09-2020 09:40AM

Digs wrote: »

My 4yr old got back to Naionra on Wednesday and by Thursday had sniffles and a bit of a throat. No temp or cough. By yesterday she had gifted it to her younger sister but it also came with a temp of 39.5!
Rang the GP and she referred her for testing which she had this afternoon. She’s 21 months so it really wasn’t pleasant for her but over in seconds. The nurse let me sit in the back of the car with her and hold her hands. She also said I had the right to object to the nasal swab due to her age but that it was the most conclusive one so I let her go for it.

We’re waiting for results but until then both her older sisters are home from Naionra/school. Hoping there’s a quick enough turnaround. It’s disruptive but has to be done. The back to school had been hugely positive in this house, their teachers/schools have done Trojan work in terms of safety etc and the older two were so happy the last few days, the fog of the last few months had lifted and we were feeling so good . Hopefully their stay at home is brief.

Hope all turns out well. Will you post an update if you don't mind ?

seamus · 02-09-2020 09:51AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Absolutely bizarre and makes no sense what so ever, these measures are so overzealous and completely counter productive.

Absolutely, but I do think a little bit of leeway and understanding will go a long way in September. You can put all the plans in the world into place, but some will work and some won't.

Especially when the whole thing is uncharted territory. A couple of weeks of writing up 50 "urgent" toilet trips a day and having parents respond by telling the school to get ta fvck, and they'll change the policy and come up with something workable.

SusanC10 · 02-09-2020 09:57AM

Question - suppose say Sean in my daughter's 5th Class tests positive and the whole Class is sent home for 14 days. Our daughter shows no symptoms.
Will our daughter be offered a Test ?
If not, can we get our asymptomatic daughter tested if we wish ?

02-09-2020 10:01AM

UrbanSprawl wrote: »

Great to see kids heading back to school ..was in X town today working and yes the kids were not socialing distance or wearing masks but they looked happy to back to school and meeeting their mates ..school is the place for kids if parents wanna keep their kids home they might find they will never be able to send them back

I would be the exact opposite, I hate seeing these groups hanging around breaking all the guidelines and it reminds me why schools should not have even considered opening never mind actually be open.

As for schools is the place for kids? Rubbish - home is the place for kids during a pandemic. I applaud any parent who makes the decision to keep their children at home to see how things pan out, if I had a school going aged child I wouldn't even have considered sending them to school.

caveat emptor wrote: »

Well they won't be testing any other kids in the class unless they develop symptoms so we actually don't know how many it will result in.

This is insanity, it's like a mental block by those making the rules. If a single student in a school tests positive the entire school should be closed immediately for 2 weeks and not re-opened again until all staff and students test negative.

We are going to be in full lockdown again in a month or 1.5 months time. No skin off my nose, I dont mind being locked down but some people are going to lose their sh*t over their "freedoms" or other such nonsense, the same people pushing for schools to reopen and having little respect for guidelines.

meeeeh · 02-09-2020 10:07AM

Adrianna Gigantic Moth wrote: »

I would be the exact opposite, I hate seeing these groups hanging around breaking all the guidelines and it reminds me why schools should not have even considered opening never mind actually be open.

As for schools is the place for kids? Rubbish - home is the place for kids during a pandemic. I applaud any parent who makes the decision to keep their children at home to see how things pan out, if I had a school going aged child I wouldn't even have considered sending them to school.

I thought it's grandparents you expect to mind your kids... So it would be your parents home.

JoeA3 · 02-09-2020 10:11AM

^^^ Ignore this fella's idiotic posts. ^^^

He's been ranting and raving hysterically across multiple forums for months. Infuriating rubbish. Why he's even in here (no school going child, seemingly clueless when it comes to all things parenting) is anyone's guess.

My little girl started primary school this week and I wouldn't swap her out of it for the world. She's getting on so well and its so important for her (and for myself and her mother) that this week went ahead as it did. Her school and their staff are doing an excellent job in the circumstances.

I just received an email from the School, a letter that was sent to them from Dr. Ronan Glynn, explaining the reasons why school is so important to children, and on balance, why the schools had to open - which is well worth a read if anyone's received it.

How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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