Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

mandrake04 · 01-09-2020 12:45PM

AdamD wrote: »

Charged for what? And based on what?

Christ people really have lost the run of themselves

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-31/coronavirus-queensland-logan-cases-diana-lasu-family/12507852

stephenjmcd · 01-09-2020 12:45PM

mightyreds wrote: »

That's not entirely true, I live in Kildare and struggling to get a restaurant tonight to celebrate an anniversary as they didn't have time to open today as restrictions were only lifted last night.

As I said the only thing that was different was you couldn't sit inside a restaurant, those with outdoor dining could open.

Well like if they take away restrictions early then your going to have an issue, if somewhere did close as they don't have outdoor dining they'll have to get stock in earlier than they expected. They'll hardly be back open with 24hr notice. Fairly straightforward reason.

Away With The Fairies · 01-09-2020 12:45PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The ones that were lifted yesterday when they'd have known about these cases??

I've family in Kildare and for all of NPHET and Donnelly saying well done to the people of Kildare, there was absolutely no difference in day to day life with the "restrictions". Everything was still open and life went on as it did everywhere else. Only thing you couldn't do was sit inside a restaurant.

Why are they blaming restaurants in all this?

KrustyUCC · 01-09-2020 12:46PM

Lyle wrote: »

Plus when you average it out over the three days from Sunday to today, it works out at 103 cases a day, which is very much in line with the daily numbers we've seen recently.

I wish they did it that way but I can already see the articles later on when over 200 are announced

George Lee is going to have a field day

mightyreds · 01-09-2020 12:47PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

As I said the only thing that was different was you couldn't sit inside a restaurant, those with outdoor could open.

Well like if they take away restrictions early then your going to have an issue, if somewhere did close as they don't have outdoor dining they'll have to get stock in earlier than they expected. They'll hardly be back open with 24hr notice. Fairly straightforward reason.

Yeah I deleted it when I realised what it said , brain isn't working

stephenjmcd · 01-09-2020 12:48PM

mightyreds wrote: »

Yeah I deleted it when I realised what it said , brain isn't working

Its a difficult position for those restaurants who were expecting to be closed a while longer, hadn't any orders in, staff rostered etc and then at short notice told you can open tomorrow.

For most it'll take a few days

fritzelly · 01-09-2020 12:48PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They’re killin us with these backlogs

Kildare back to lockdown, they've had their day release

seamus · 01-09-2020 12:51PM

thelad95 wrote: »

This response is disastrous and reads like something from February.

Firstly, family is not required to restrict movements but child is. So the potentially asymptomatic child gives it to his family, parents continue going to work and asymptomatic spread goes wildly out of control which is how this all started in March.

Secondly, siblings are still allowed go to school despite using common touch surfaces, common toys at home, remote control for the television etc. You can't stop kids from playing unless you lock the potentially infected child in a room which lets face it no parent is going to do.

This is utterly half arsed in my opinion.

That's the protocol for everyone, everywhere. Close contacts of a confirmed case must restrict their movements for 14 days. Close contacts of close contacts (2nd-degree close contacts) do not need to restrict their movements unless the first-degree close contact becomes symptomatic.

The other children in the class will be offered a test. If they test positive, their families will be required to restrict their movements.

This is not some new half-arsed special protocol for schools. It's been the standard for the last six months.

caveat emptor · 01-09-2020 12:59PM

Blondini wrote: »

Pods? Would ya cop yourself on. No such thing as pods or bubbles except in a document.

Yeah we are about to learn if the bubble / pod can contain it. If that tweet with the communication from the school is correct I can see some potential issues.

No-one else in class tested unless symptomatic.
Siblings of children in the class continue to attend as normal.
Family members of children in the class not required to restrict movements.

So no testing and no restriction of movement for family of children who were in close contact with the confirmed case.

This effectively facilitates asymptomatic spread which we know is a real problem with covid.

https://twitter.com/sfaysocialist/status/1300721661591814144?s=20

Non solum non ambulabit · 01-09-2020 01:00PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

How is this possible? We were told it magically ceases to be contagious in schools.

A real head scratcher that one.

What planet are you on? That was not said by anyone ever. Grow up.

podgeandrodge · 01-09-2020 01:04PM

If WHO Director-General Tedros is openly saying that if countries want to control the virus they should prevent "amplifying events like filling stadiums with sports fans, large religious gatherings or packed nightclubs.", and that avoiding these "amplifying events so that the other economic sectors can actually open up and the economy can go back into life, that we can live without going to the stadium."

surely the pubs opening seems reasonable in that context??

hmmm · 01-09-2020 01:04PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Why are they blaming restaurants in all this?

They weren't blaming restaurants for anything, but because the virus had potentially escaped in big numbers into the community, they needed to reduce the number of places in the affected area where it could potentially spread and infect large numbers of people.

caveat emptor · 01-09-2020 01:12PM

They won't be informing parents of any other further cases. Sound.

https://twitter.com/sfaysocialist/status/1300758852040896512?s=20

stephenjmcd · 01-09-2020 01:14PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

They won't be informing parents of any other further cases. Sound.

https://twitter.com/sfaysocialist/status/1300758852040896512?s=20

That was flagged up before. They don't have to say if theres a case in the school.

spookwoman · 01-09-2020 01:21PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

214 cases? That's very high.

And 135 in Dublin and Kildare? They need to put restrictions back onto Kildare and Dublin.

Yesterday the in the testing the positive number was 209 for 2 days yet we only got 42+53 cases for those days. Don't know what they are at.

is_that_so wrote: »

Even if they didn't post it, I'd say "that didn’t take long" was the first thought into most people's heads!

Went through their heads but they won't admit it

seamus · 01-09-2020 01:22PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

They won't be informing parents of any other further cases. Sound.

What purpose would that serve? The parents of the 30 kids will be offered a test and will have to isolate for 14 days either way.

ninebeanrows · 01-09-2020 01:25PM

Can you imagine the headlines tonight when the figure is announced

fritzelly · 01-09-2020 01:27PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Can you imagine the headlines tonight when the figure is announced

George Lee won't know what to do with himself

yerwanthere123 · 01-09-2020 01:28PM

Is the idea that covid is all a scam for the government to control us gaining traction? See a lot of comments like this in online comment sections, and not just by obvious bot accounts. There surely can't be this many simple people out there.

innuendo141 · 01-09-2020 01:30PM

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Is the idea that covid is all a scam for the government to control us gaining traction? See a lot of comments like this in online comment sections, and not just by obvious bot accounts.

Possibly. It turns out I sit beside one at work so have to be extra careful around her now.

What Username Guidelines · 01-09-2020 01:35PM

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Is the idea that covid is all a scam for the government to control us gaining traction? See a lot of comments like this in online comment sections, and not just by obvious bot accounts.

Unfortunately it is spilling out of the internet into real life a bit more. I saw a lad in an "RTE is the virus" T-shirt out and about the other day.

Reckon they got themselves a decent number of soundbites like Leo saying we could have 15,000 cases if we dont act - they still bang on about that one even though we're not far off 30k now.

While there are plenty of nuances to the argument on how we are reacting to it as a nation, it's certainly far from a binary argument, and it has many many variables that people like to ignore to push an agenda.

In general, conspiracy theorists will believe a theory as a defence mechanism for something being too big or complex to properly comprehend. When they believe this is all some theatrical setup to control the population, it is in fact pretty scary to think that no-one is really in any control at all.

What surprises me most is some people I used to work with or study with, who I would have considered very intelligent and analytical, have been converted and are getting extremely vocal on twitter in response to journalists and politicians.

mandrake04 · 01-09-2020 01:35PM

seamus wrote: »

What purpose would that serve? The parents of the 30 kids will be offered a test and will have to isolate for 14 days either way.

So the parents have to isolate for 14 days too?

01-09-2020 01:37PM

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Is the idea that covid is all a scam for the government to control us gaining traction? See a lot of comments like this in online comment sections, and not just by obvious bot accounts. There surely can't be this many simple people out there.

Only by conspiracy theory believers and those stupid enough to believe stuff they read on Facebook, the sort of idiots who don't vaccinate their kids for measles because they read something on Facebook that says it causes autism

mandrake04 · 01-09-2020 01:43PM

seamus wrote: »

Technically yes. It's ~110 positive results over the weekend that aren't accounted for in the numbers so far announced. Most likely these 110 results weren't reported by GPs/doctors until yesterday evening.

This is why the 14-day incidence is more important than the day-to-day, because trough and peaks are smoothed down.

I reckon they are still sending swabs to Germany to be tested, so taking 3-4 days turnaround.

antodeco · 01-09-2020 01:43PM

I'm already getting WhatsApp messages about the school with one case and how we are all doomed etc. I'd be more concerned if we weren't catching cases

Funsterdelux · 01-09-2020 01:43PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Only by conspiracy theory believers and those stupid enough to believe stuff they read on Facebook, the sort of idiots who don't vaccinate their kids for measles because they read something on Facebook that says it causes autism

Sure everyone knows Facebook causes autism.

01-09-2020 01:44PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Sure everyone knows Facebook causes autism.

It definitely causes something alright.

What Username Guidelines · 01-09-2020 01:45PM

antodeco wrote: »

I'm already getting WhatsApp messages about the school with one case and how we are all doomed etc. I'd be more concerned if we weren't catching cases

If there were no cases found in schools you'd have plenty saying it's all a cover up. No way to win in this situation tbh.

boggerman1 · 01-09-2020 01:49PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

If WHO Director-General Tedros is openly saying that if countries want to control the virus they should prevent "amplifying events like filling stadiums with sports fans, large religious gatherings or packed nightclubs.", and that avoiding these "amplifying events so that the other economic sectors can actually open up and the economy can go back into life, that we can live without going to the stadium."

surely the pubs opening seems reasonable in that context??

Why not shut down the whole world.confine everyone to there homes.order online and be done with it.this constant scaremongering and you can’t do or question anything is really tiresome.life not worth living if that’s the case.shoot me now

drunkmonkey · 01-09-2020 01:49PM

antodeco wrote: »

I'm already getting WhatsApp messages about the school with one case and how we are all doomed etc. I'd be more concerned if we weren't catching cases

I'm getting them about a second school in North Dublin... asymptomatic kids, the world is doomed.

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