Senior Executive Officer, Local Authority 2020

lucat · 31-08-2020 8:59pm

Redchick wrote: »

Hard to know isn't it? Any of the free practice tests I did gives you a percentile ranking and also an accuracy rating. I'd say thy just go with the top certain percent and that's it.

That's true. You're probably right.

tungsten · 31-08-2020 9:23pm

lucat wrote: »

Oh I know you're not expected to answer them all, but it got me wondering...

Getting 16/17/18 etc. done averages out to around 50 seconds per question, according to my very lazy maths. So I wonder would they prefer candidates who got 90% of their questions correct within a 50 second timeframe, (like me, hopefully!) or would they prefer faster candidates who maybe spent only 25ish seconds on each question but got the same number correct? So if these candidates got 17 out of an attempted 34 in total correct (meaning only 50% correct but more answered), which is better? I'd be interested to hear what people think!

The intro to the test today mentioned proceed through them with speed and accuracy

So Cut-e measures both in my opinion

Perhaps an extra weighting for more questions answered with accuracy if outside the standard deviation (upper end)

MrMistoffelees · 31-08-2020 9:45pm

Anyone know how long they take to issue results? As long as the AP tests? Hope not

Casarina · 31-08-2020 11:04pm

MrMistoffelees wrote: »

Anyone know how long they take to issue results? As long as the AP tests? Hope not

Just checked 2017 campaign... It was 1 month before results in..
Not holding out much hope this time. Thought this competition's questions were odd in the management ones and neigh on impossible to get many done in the verbal....

Pinkmouse2020 · 01-09-2020 7:49am

Well just completed, that was just about as good as the APO!!! got just over 20 in both sets completed... hoping the accuracy gets me over the line but not holding much hope!!

Best of luck all

FutureGuy · 01-09-2020 12:11pm

Completed, will probably fail on verbal. 35 completed in numerical and about 22 in Verbal. Found it difficult to pull some of the information required in the latter.

Management test was odd. Some of the variations were very similar to each other.

lucat · 01-09-2020 6:57pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Completed, will probably fail on verbal. 35 completed in numerical and about 22 in Verbal. Found it difficult to pull some of the information required in the latter.

Management test was odd. Some of the variations were very similar to each other.

I'm glad to know so many of us have the same impression about the management test. It was an odd one.

prettyboy81 · 01-09-2020 7:25pm

Results will be out on or before 14th September unless Public Jobs run into unexpected delays.

TrixIrl · 01-09-2020 7:27pm

Got all the numerical and about 25 verbal answered. The management scenarios? We'll all I can saw is it certainly was not anyone working in Mgmt that came up with those!

Best of luck everyone

FutureGuy · 02-09-2020 9:33am

TrixIrl wrote: »

Got all the numerical and about 25 verbal answered. The management scenarios? We'll all I can saw is it certainly was not anyone working in Mgmt that came up with those!

Best of luck everyone

I didn't want to sound like I was moaning but I felt they were created for a very junior management position or by someone who hasn't worked at senior level at all.

I've just decided to forget about it now. I'll either get through or not.

crinkley · 02-09-2020 10:21am

Found the verbal one sound, numerical is probably where I'll fail one of the hardest one of those I have done.

Found the management one far easier than others, it was pretty obvious and basically scenarios I have come across in my career to date

MrMistoffelees · 02-09-2020 1:34pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

I didn't want to sound like I was moaning but I felt they were created for a very junior management position or by someone who hasn't worked at senior level at all.

I've just decided to forget about it now. I'll either get through or not.

This was my feeling too. If these reflect the scope of the positions it would put me off.

lucat · 11-09-2020 12:08pm

Only 1-200 called forward...that's me gone so! I did that application form while I was on holiday. What an inordinate waste of my time this has been.

crinkley · 11-09-2020 12:16pm

Well I honestly thought I had failed the numerical and whilst it was my worse score I managed to get through, must check out the AP thread on the video interview

Pinkmouse2020 · 11-09-2020 12:18pm

placed 855, may forget about that till next time!!!!

dee75 · 11-09-2020 12:23pm

Placed 378 on OOM, so I'm out too!

Well done to anyone who is in top 200.

tungsten · 11-09-2020 12:24pm

How do you know if you are in top 200?
I got no OOM

tungsten · 11-09-2020 12:25pm

Sorry - ignore just see it on the first para

FutureGuy · 11-09-2020 12:26pm

Did very well in management and maths, and while I didn’t fail verbal (4200), it dragged me down completely.

380ish.

Best of luck everyone.

Clonmel1000 · 11-09-2020 12:32pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Did very well in management and maths, and while I didn’t fail verbal (4200), it dragged me down completely.

380ish.

Best of luck everyone.

Would you think anyone outside of the top 200 won’t ever get a chance for interview?

GoPre · 11-09-2020 12:40pm

Placed in the 50's.

For reference: The counting scores were Verbal 6000 odd, Management 6600.

Redchick · 11-09-2020 1:00pm

Ah damn it I got placed 209!! I know I'm outside the number to be called forward for video interview but I'm happy that I scored so well on my first attempt at anything like this. Maybe I should've practiced beforehand.

Congrats to those of you who fell inside the 200.

tungsten · 11-09-2020 1:18pm

GoPre wrote: »

Placed in the 50's.

For reference: The counting scores were Verbal 6000 odd, Management 6600.

That's an excellent result well done
What was your strategy for management scenarios?

TrixIrl · 11-09-2020 1:28pm

Placed at 80 so delighted as it was my first time doing to this style of assessment.

Very surprised my Mgmt score was my lowest, but I did feel it was a bit Micky-Mousey!!

Well done everyone.

Alittlehelp45 · 11-09-2020 2:05pm

Hi all, I placed in the top 200 and hope to be called for interview. Does anyone know how many stages there are as I’m also at interview stage for another role and (if successful) don’t want to accept if there’s a chance I’ll be the offered the SEO role.

okk · 11-09-2020 2:15pm

Is there any chance of an interview if you are inside 210 but outside 200? If some people turn down interviews do they carry on down the list?

I am outside the public sector and this was my first time every attempting tests like this. They were a bit of a shock to the system - I will definitely buy some practice tests before attempting anything like this again.

FutureGuy · 11-09-2020 3:28pm

Wait a sec. The only counted our verbal and management scores? Ah that’s just silly.

Itchyfeet89 · 11-09-2020 4:58pm

Came 93rd. Did great in verbal and numerical but management let me down. I wonder will there be many positions from this campaign and is it for Co Councils??

delricyo · 11-09-2020 5:00pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Wait a sec. The only counted our verbal and management scores? Ah that’s just silly.

It has been like that for a while in these type of test. Originally designed to let more women pass the numerical!!

FutureGuy · 11-09-2020 5:06pm

delricyo wrote: »

It has been like that for a while in these type of test. Originally designed to let more women pass the numerical!!

Why even bother testing numeracy in the first place? Pretty disheartening to apply for something when your strongest subject is then discarded.

Tigerpants · 11-09-2020 5:17pm

Anyone know how many applicants there was on total

delricyo · 11-09-2020 5:19pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Why even bother testing numeracy in the first place? Pretty disheartening to apply for something when your strongest subject is then discarded.

I know how you feel. I always scored the highest in numerical when applying for EO/AO jobs back in the day. I still give it my best shot in numerical, but take the foot off the gas when doing them.

FutureGuy · 11-09-2020 5:25pm

delricyo wrote: »

I know how you feel. I always scored the highest in numerical when applying for EO/AO jobs back in the day. I still give it my best shot in numerical, but take the foot off the gas when doing them.

I'm sorry as it's my first time doing these tests, but basically it was a waste of time doing any study for numeracy, rather double down on verbal prep.

I'm actually gutted about this. I scored high 6000 in math and management.

FutureGuy · 11-09-2020 5:38pm

delricyo wrote: »

Originally designed to let more women pass the numerical!!

I'm sorry, but this can't be real.

Cushtie · 11-09-2020 6:42pm

Well that's me gone. Ha ha. North of 1000 on OOM. Disaster!! I knew doing it my head was all over the place.

Having said that I dont think I would ever make top 200 in one of these.

Oh well, time to focus on current job in private sector. Have a good position in good company so time to forget the public sector. (Euro millions tonight it is so!!)

lucat · 12-09-2020 10:45am

delricyo wrote: »

I know how you feel. I always scored the highest in numerical when applying for EO/AO jobs back in the day. I still give it my best shot in numerical, but take the foot off the gas when doing them.

I'm like that with Verbal. Might get some refresher training or something.

lucat · 12-09-2020 10:48am

FutureGuy wrote: »

I'm sorry, but this can't be real.

I've heard that before many times. It's a bit outdated maybe...I think it reflects the days when girls weren't pushed/encouraged as much in maths in school compared to boys, so when they grew up they weren't as numerically literate.

I'm a woman and numerical reasoning was my best score. Pity it isn't counted.

flended12 · 12-09-2020 1:07pm

Placed mid 300's here. Done well in verbal and management. Apparently they didnt take numerical into the assessing?

Strange as I got 6000+ in verbal and 4900+ in management. Must be very close after first 200 perhaps to the next 200.

Suppose chances of getting all the way down here is remote.

Congrats to those who achieved first 200 and will get the job(s).

crinkley · 12-09-2020 1:11pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

I'm sorry, but this can't be real.

It’s not real, whilst you need to show a decent level of numeracy, hence the need to pass the test it isn’t taken into consideration for merit as the other competencies are deemed more important for these roles. Otherwise why have accountants and economists in departments

Reputable Rog · 12-09-2020 1:22pm

If you passed I wouldn’t worry too much about the number, it’s likely that the Dublin region will fill up very fast and attract no takers and then they’ll call more batches.
That happened with the SEE’s and SEP’s in 2015-16.

tungsten · 12-09-2020 1:49pm

flended12 wrote: »

Placed mid 300's here. Done well in verbal and management. Apparently they didnt take numerical into the assessing?

Strange as I got 6000+ in verbal and 4900+ in management. Must be very close after first 200 perhaps to the next 200.

Suppose chances of getting all the way down here is remote.

Congrats to those who achieved first 200 and will get the job(s).

To give you a sense of position/score versus the overall no candidates

I got 92 placing with 5213 in management and 6731 in verbal

flended12 · 12-09-2020 1:51pm

tungsten wrote: »

To give you a sense of position/score versus the overall no candidates

I got 92 placing with 5213 in management and 6731 in verbal

I'd imagine I wasnt too far off, just not good enough. Thanks all the same

delricyo · 12-09-2020 1:57pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

I'm sorry, but this can't be real.

It 100% is. Really odd, considering women are now performing better in leaving cert maths and science subjects

lucat · 12-09-2020 2:59pm

tungsten wrote: »

To give you a sense of position/score versus the overall no candidates

I got 92 placing with 5213 in management and 6731 in verbal

Thanks. I'm regretting being so lazy with Verbal!

lucat · 12-09-2020 3:00pm

Reputable Rog wrote: »

If you passed I wouldn’t worry too much about the number, it’s likely that the Dublin region will fill up very fast and attract no takers and then they’ll call more batches.
That happened with the SEE’s and SEP’s in 2015-16.

What do you mean it'll fill up but attract no takers? People won't take the job once it's offered?

sgr213 · 13-09-2020 12:47am

tungsten wrote: »

To give you a sense of position/score versus the overall no candidates

I got 92 placing with 5213 in management and 6731 in verbal

I'm OOM 91. And had opposite marks! I got 6583 in management and 5366 in verbal. Disgusted the numerical wasn't used as I got 7539 in that!!

okk · 14-09-2020 9:53am

This board appears to have become a place for seasoned public sector people to boast about their results while ignoring the questions posed by others who are new to this process!

sgr213 · 14-09-2020 11:09am

okk wrote: »

This board appears to have become a place for seasoned public sector people to boast about their results while ignoring the questions posed by others who are new to this process!

Who are the seasoned public sector people? This is my very first time applying and I am completely new to this process. I found this group and thought it would be extremely helpful and informative. I apologise if I should not have put my results. Others shared theirs so I did the same. I cannot answer other questions as I've never been through it before.

crinkley · 14-09-2020 11:11am

so the interview invites are out. I assume we can do the practice one as many times as we like? I want to see what is better quality for sound recording, my phone or my laptop

Edit: I have just seen you can do the practice as many times as you want, that's good lets me play around with my lighting lol

TrixIrl · 14-09-2020 11:50am

sgr213 wrote: »

Who are the seasoned public sector people? This is my very first time applying and I am completely new to this process. I found this group and thought it would be extremely helpful and informative. I apologise if I should not have put my results. Others shared theirs so I did the same. I cannot answer other questions as I've never been through it before.

Ditto for me. I'm public sector but in the HSE, have never sat testing like this before. I would generally only reply to the thread if I had something of value to add or can speak with direct experience....

Best of luck everyone in the video interviews, I assume we're looking at a longer turn around this time, I don't envy the interview board with 200 X 11 min interviews to watch!! I sat on the board for 50 in person interviews (entry level) last year over a week and my head was spinning!

Senior Executive Officer, Local Authority 2020

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