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Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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  • #2822
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,813 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Sounds like someone has been abroad
    Green list I hope?

    Pas du tout - my flights to France next month were cancelled thankfully. Wouldn't have been going either way.

    I was thinking more of the glorious May we had here and vitamin D restocking.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #2823
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Pas du tout - my flights to France next month were cancelled thankfully. Wouldn't have been going either way.

    I was thinking more of the glorious May we had here and vitamin D restocking.

    It was a fine May indeed. I've been wearing shorts ever since, for the sake of the vitamins.


  • #2824
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    jackboy wrote: »
    Hardly a need to be lashing out personal insults for people giving an opinion on something that is not known yet.

    Sometimes there is, because usually they're not just giving opinion but rather have a very set agenda clear in their post and thing that constsntly repeating this figure will somehow convince everybody that this is just some overreaction.
    Anyway, it's certainly not 0.2%, the figure many posters seem to refer to. So surely that can just be dropped. What annoys me most is just how oblivious you'd have to be to think that, by now several regions of the the US and Latin America have lost greater than 0.2% of their population's to COVID, some regions such as Ecuador's largest city losing almost 0.5% of their population over the last few months . Despite that reality some people can't even agree that COVID is capable of killing nearly that many people. It is just completely ignorant and insensitive to the situation the people living in those regions are facing.


  • #2825
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Speaking of vitamins. I've been taking all sorts of vitamins and supplements because of all this. Vitamin D, magnesium because it helps with absorption, zinc, vitamin C.

    But there's one supplement that might help, melatonin. But when I went looking for it, they don't have this available over the counter in Ireland. It's actually available on prescription. Does anyone know why a supplement is prescription only?


  • #2826
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Plus I wouldn't rule out vitamin D as a reason it seems to be hitting less hard right now. That's just a personal theory.

    Should be highlighted more. Obesity a major risk factor with this virus but thats just being ignored now again probably governments more worried people will spend less on food and eat healthier which could cause some economic problems. The virus is not hitting athletes hard at all. Age obviously a big factor but diet/body mass a huge factor. When I see articles about younger people getting hit hard with the virus, they are usually significantly overweight. Their have been some outliers but the general theme I have seen is that obesity is a huge factor with this virus


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  • #2827
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Should be highlighted more. Obesity a major risk factor with this virus but thats just being ignored now again probably governments more worried people will spend less on food and eat healthier which could cause some economic problems. The virus is not hitting athletes hard at all. Age obviously a big factor but diet/body mass a huge factor. When I see articles about younger people getting hit hard with the virus, they are usually significantly overweight. Their have been some outliers but the general theme I have seen is that obesity is a huge factor with this virus

    There's been alot of cases recently. They're surely not all skinny people.


  • #2828
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Speaking of vitamins. I've been taking all sorts of vitamins and supplements because of all this. Vitamin D, magnesium because it helps with absorption, zinc, vitamin C.

    But there's one supplement that might help, melatonin. But when I went looking for it, they don't have this available over the counter in Ireland. It's actually available on prescription. Does anyone know why a supplement is prescription only?

    Possibly due to a long list of side affects: It cause some side effects including headache, short-term feelings of depression, daytime sleepiness, dizziness, stomach cramps, and irritability. And don't drive or use machinery for four to five hours after taking melatonin.


  • #2829
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Speaking of vitamins. I've been taking all sorts of vitamins and supplements because of all this. Vitamin D, magnesium because it helps with absorption, zinc, vitamin C.

    But there's one supplement that might help, melatonin. But when I went looking for it, they don't have this available over the counter in Ireland. It's actually available on prescription. Does anyone know why a supplement is prescription only?
    Don't know, but throw in some estrogen too? :)
    https://newsroom.wakehealth.edu/News-Releases/2020/08/Estrogen-May-Lessen-Severity-of-COVID19-Symptoms-in-Women


  • #2830
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Yeah hate being right. Evidence of spread via faecal oral route. Of course there was no evidence back in march and was tabled a doom monger.

    https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1299433451368652800?s=20

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  • #2831
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah hate being right. Evidence of spread via faecal oral route. Of course there was no evidence back in march and was tabled a doom monger.

    https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1299433451368652800?s=20

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    Must be true if it’s on Twitter. If it is looks like we’re doomed caveat. If i were you i’d have your last will and testament sorted and your affairs in order due to you first losing your limbs and eventual heart failure.

    People whatever you do don’t flush the jacks, think of the cats!


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  • #2832
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,813 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah hate being right. Evidence of spread via faecal oral route.

    Don't know much about plumbing... how common are depleted U-traps?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #2833
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah hate being right. Evidence of spread via faecal oral route. Of course there was no evidence back in march and was tabled a doom monger.

    There's been wastewater studies done all around, and the virus can be detected in that. But I'm not sure if there is evidence of people getting infected via toilets in households (not sure as in I don't know - not saying it can't happen). Obviously I'd avoid public toilets, but that's a pretty good idea even when there's no pandemic around.


  • #2834
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Polar101 wrote: »
    There's been wastewater studies done all around, and the virus can be detected in that. But I'm not sure if there is evidence of people getting infected via toilets in households (not sure as in I don't know - not saying it can't happen). Obviously I'd avoid public toilets, but that's a pretty good idea even when there's no pandemic around.

    The water in the toilet had probably dried up in the vacant apt hence the particles being transmitted from below. If there were people living in the apt it wouldn’t be a problem.


  • #2835
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Hijpo wrote: »
    Is there a number I can call to alert the HSE to a person I know has flown into ireland from two different countries and did not quarantine. I know three individuals that they would have been in contact with.

    Surely those contacts should be tested.

    It's: 1800 19,20,1,19,9


  • #2836
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Must be true if it’s on Twitter. If it is looks like we’re doomed caveat. If i were you i’d have your last will and testament sorted and your affairs in order due to you first losing your limbs and eventual heart failure.

    People whatever you do don’t flush the jacks, think of the cats!

    I think you are good man Micky, you are just out of your depth.

    Dr Ali maybe on twitter but he is a bit of a big deal. Take her handy now. God bless. If I were you, I'd read a book.

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  • #2837
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Don't know much about plumbing... how common are depleted U-traps?

    not common within a few thousand miles of us.

    This is not new and copies graphics from a 2017 report.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5302810/


  • #2838
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Speaking of vitamins. I've been taking all sorts of vitamins and supplements because of all this. Vitamin D, magnesium because it helps with absorption, zinc, vitamin C.

    But there's one supplement that might help, melatonin. But when I went looking for it, they don't have this available over the counter in Ireland. It's actually available on prescription. Does anyone know why a supplement is prescription only?

    I couldn't get in on subscription, but that was years ago. I'd like to know if this has changed.


  • #2839
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I think you are good man Micky, you are just out of your depth.

    Dr Ali maybe on twitter but he is a bit of a big deal. Take her handy now. God bless. If I were you, I'd read a book.

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    But he didn’t realise the toilet bowl probably dried up due to the apt being vacant? There’s no way the particles would get through a bowl of water.


  • #2840
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    The water in the toilet had probably dried up in the vacant apt hence the particles being transmitted from below. If there were people living in the apt it wouldn’t be a problem.

    Woulda / shoulda /coulda is not an argument Micky.


  • #2841
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Dr Ali maybe on twitter but he is a bit of a big deal.

    He may also be a bit of a plagiarist.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5302810/


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  • #2842
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    not common within a few thousand miles of us.

    This is not new and copies graphics from a 2017 report.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5302810/

    source?

    nice ninja edit


  • #2843
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Woulda / shoulda /coulda is not an argument Micky.

    Ok explain how it gets through then?


  • #2844
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    source?

    The link is there . :rolleyes:


  • #2845
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    But he didn’t realise the toilet bowl probably dried up due to the apt being vacant? There’s no way the particles would get through a bowl of water.

    Care to share your credentials Micky? I think d=Dr Ali would have you for breakfast. :D


  • #2846
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    He may also be a bit of a plagiarist.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5302810/

    Christ he is commenting on something as a respected scientist,
    FFS #fakenews Commenting and opining is not plagiarism Jim. Come on.


  • #2847
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Care to share your credentials Micky? I think d=Dr Ali would have you for breakfast. :D

    How would aerosols get through a toilet that’s used regularly in an occupied apartment?

    The aerosols obviously got through a dried up toilet U bend in a vacant apartment.

    You really must be scraping the bottom of the barrell with this shyte ( excuse the pun)


  • #2848
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    I couldn't get in on subscription, but that was years ago. I'd like to know if this has changed.

    It hasn't changed. I only went looking for it a couple of weeks ago and couldn't get it because it's prescription. Makes no sense.


  • #2849
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Christ he is commenting on something as a respected scientist,
    FFS #fakenews Commenting and opining is not plagiarism Jim. Come on.
    He's rehashing a WHO report in 2017 from an incident in 2003. Hardly breaking news, scientific research, fresh thinking nor relevant to many plumbing systems outside of Hong Kong. Did you even read the linked report?


  • #2850
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I think you are good man Micky, you are just out of your depth.

    Dr Ali maybe on twitter but he is a bit of a big deal. Take her handy now. God bless. If I were you, I'd read a book.

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    A tin foil hat brigade.
    https://fas.org/issues/government-secrecy/


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  • #2851
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,321 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Yes, 'cos it looks like we lack the will or resources to enforce restrictions in 'wet' pubs. Possibly we have more of them.

    And we haven't got the spare ICU capacity to cope with any resulting clusters.


    Why don't they throw €1billion in to more ICU capacity then, what they are doing now is taking billions out of the economy in the approach they are taking with no proof it will save the pityful ICU from overload.


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