Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

owlbethere · 26-08-2020 12:55PM

I know schools are starting back. What is the situation regarding afterschool and weekend activities like football, sport, music, dance, drama, art activities - are they all resuming back to normality too?

Wouldn’t afterschool activities encourage more mixing and perhaps more close contacts?

Boggles · 26-08-2020 12:56PM

I imagine they will impose a ban on corner backs and wing forwards playing outdoor sports to combat the rise.

Got to get those 1.1 million indoors no matter what!

stephenjmcd · 26-08-2020 12:58PM

MD1990 wrote: »

93 cases of beer in Dublin.

That county is getting locked very soon

Little chance of that. Anything Kildare style won't work in Dublin for multiple reasons(not that you'd call it a lockdown, family in Kildare basically said its business as usual, same restrictions basically as the rest of the country), they also won't do it for more obvious business / economic reasons as was discussed here last few evenings.

Highest population, higher threshold on cases.

Jaded Walker · 26-08-2020 01:08PM

I have a friend, high risk with diabetes and asthma, his wife is even worse, severe high risk.

They are not sending their kids back to school because of this. Is there something in place for people like this for homeschooling? I can't imagine that parents in this category are expected to take the chance on sending their kids back to school?

MD1990 · 26-08-2020 01:08PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Little chance of that. Anything Kildare style won't work in Dublin for multiple reasons(not that you'd call it a lockdown, family in Kildare basically said its business as usual, same restrictions basically as the rest of the country), they also won't do it for more obvious business / economic reasons as was discussed here last few evenings.

Highest population, higher threshold on cases.

It is not about whether it will work or not.

There may be no choice in a few months if cases continue to rise.

26-08-2020 01:20PM

The Kildare lockdown is nonsense and would be even more nonsense in Dublin. All its doing is hurting local businesses whilst having little to no impact on people's actual behaviour.

26-08-2020 01:21PM

MD1990 wrote: »

It is not about whether it will work or not.

There may be no choice in a few months if cases continue to rise.

They could choose to deal with the clusters directly and not lock the county down. They are basically telling us were too **** at contact tracing and can't be arsed putting anymore effort in so we'll just lock everyone down and stop the spread that way. People are not going to comply (especially when all they risk is catching a cough), the guards aren't going to enforce it but sure let's all just say were in lockdown, that'll scare the virus.

26-08-2020 01:30PM

General question - should the daily numbers not be reported as:

"There have been an additional 100 positive samples for SARS-CoV-2 in the past 24 hours, of which 80 are displaying symptoms of COVID-19. An additional 15 cases who were previously asymptomatic have subsequently been confirmed as having developed symptoms associated with Covid 19.
Overall there have been an additional 95 cases of COVID-19 confirmed"

Away With The Fairies · 26-08-2020 01:30PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

So there is
164 cases of em..... beer in my shed
I bought 93in Dublin,22 in Kildare (obviously be for it was locked down) , 13 in Carlow, 10 in Tipp

Ohh sorry wrong thread I thoguht this was the beer apprication thread

Where do you get the info before it gets released?

Boggles · 26-08-2020 01:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

General question - should the daily numbers not be reported as:

"There have been an additional 100 positive samples for SARS-CoV-2 in the past 24 hours, of which 80 are displaying symptoms of COVID-19. An additional 15 cases who were previously asymptomatic have subsequently been confirmed as having developed symptoms associated with Covid 19.
Overall there have been an additional 95 cases of COVID-19 confirmed"

No.

Queried · 26-08-2020 01:40PM

Has anyone listened to the Stefanie Preissner podcast with the anonymous nurse who contracted Covid? Found it very interesting! Also a little scary but glad I listened to it!

26-08-2020 01:44PM

Boggles wrote: »

No.

Well, asymptomatic cases are not COVID-19 cases. COVID-19 is the disease not the virus

Oranage2 · 26-08-2020 01:44PM

eigrod wrote: »

101 positive swabs in last 24 hours from 4,998 tests.

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

That's an alarming number, double the % of the usual positives to total tests. I still can't believe we're sending kids back now, massive mistake but won't change their minds unless we've a massive death wave.

drunkmonkey · 26-08-2020 01:45PM

owlbethere wrote: »

I know schools are starting back. What is the situation regarding afterschool and weekend activities like football, sport, music, dance, drama, art activities - are they all resuming back to normality too?

Wouldn’t afterschool activities encourage more mixing and perhaps more close contacts?

Sport has been back for about the last 6 weeks down here, not sure about drama, art etc. Must have been 200 at under 8's training last week I gave up counting.

Akabusi · 26-08-2020 01:46PM

Jaded Walker wrote: »

I have a friend, high risk with diabetes and asthma, his wife is even worse, severe high risk.

They are not sending their kids back to school because of this. Is there something in place for people like this for homeschooling? I can't imagine that parents in this category are expected to take the chance on sending their kids back to school?

It might sound cruel but has your friend and his wife done anything to improve their conditions? You mention diabetes and in most cases people who have it are overweight and have bad diets, have they tried to improve their lifestyle and lost any weight? I'm not saying this is the case here but a lot of people never do anything to help themselves first, they'd prefer to just moan about whatever perceived injustice is falling on them.

26-08-2020 01:47PM

eigrod wrote: »

101 positive swabs in last 24 hours from 4,998 tests.

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

where did yourdeadright find the extra 62 cases of beer?

MerlinSouthDub · 26-08-2020 01:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

where did yourdeadright find the extra 62 cases of beer?

Private testing possibly?

stephenjmcd · 26-08-2020 01:48PM

eigrod wrote: »

101 positive swabs in last 24 hours from 4,998 tests.

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

Intersting. Yourdeadwright has been spot on with the numbers last few days and I'm fairly sure we don't have swabs v cases announced outstanding (open to correction here)

Maybe private testing if there is any

Akabusi · 26-08-2020 01:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

where did yourdeadright find the extra 62 cases of beer?

They were already in the shed, just hadn't counted them yet.

Boggles · 26-08-2020 01:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, asymptomatic cases are not COVID-19 cases. COVID-19 is the disease not the virus

Jesus. :pac:

I'll play.

So if they report 15 asymptomatic cases, but 10 subsequently turned out to be presymptomatic do we then correct the record with de-notifications and re-notifications, etc?

It's going turn into quite a mess pretty quickly.

Widdensushi · 26-08-2020 01:51PM

They were trying to keep the numbers down to ease political pressure, it's not working.

Tokyo · 26-08-2020 01:53PM

Mod: @JJayoo, @caveat emptor - take 48 hours away from the thread and learn to behave.

26-08-2020 01:53PM

eigrod wrote: »

One would hope, given the disparity between yourdeadwright’s figure today and the positive swabs figure today, that numbers over the next couple of nights will be down a little.

We have seen it in reverse where confirmed positives didn't turn up in cases for a number of days, however when there has been no recent lag in cases, where can the additional numbers come from unless they are historic?

26-08-2020 01:54PM

Boggles wrote: »

Jesus. :pac:

I'll play.

So if they report 15 asymptomatic cases, but 10 subsequently turned out to be presymptomatic do we then correct the record with de-notifications and re-notifications, etc?

It's going turn into quite a mess pretty quickly.

"Ah thats a bit of work can we not just leave it"

26-08-2020 01:56PM

Boggles wrote: »

Jesus. :pac:

I'll play.

So if they report 15 asymptomatic cases, but 10 subsequently turned out to be presymptomatic do we then correct the record with de-notifications and re-notifications, etc?

It's going turn into quite a mess pretty quickly.

Its a thought experiment. We know from one high profile example that the vast majority of cases were asymptomatic, and never developed symptoms, so to call them COVID-19 is in accurate. But they are still potentially infectious and a risk to others, so they need to be counted traced and isolated

Benimar · 26-08-2020 01:56PM

The 101 beers was yesterdays count, todays count hasn't been issued yet.

What Username Guidelines · 26-08-2020 01:57PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Intersting. Yourdeadwright has been spot on with the numbers last few days and I'm fairly sure we don't have swabs v cases announced outstanding (open to correction here)

Maybe private testing if there is any

I think those are still yesterday’s test numbers, that usually gets updated around 3-4pm and yesterday was also 101 positives from 4,998 tests.

26-08-2020 01:58PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Intersting. Yourdeadwright has been spot on with the numbers last few days and I'm fairly sure we don't have swabs v cases announced outstanding (open to correction here)

Maybe private testing if there is any

Or maybe he really has 160 cases of beer.

Boggles · 26-08-2020 01:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Its a thought experiment. We know from one high profile example that the vast majority of cases were asymptomatic, and never developed symptoms, so to call them COVID-19 is in accurate. But they are still potentially infectious and a risk to others, so they need to be counted traced and isolated

No we don't, there was no scientific study or any sort of study to the meat factory you are alluding to.

It was one throw away comment in a PR puff piece solely designed to make the owner sound like Oskar Schindler.

iamwhoiam · 26-08-2020 02:02PM

Akabusi wrote: »

It might sound cruel but has your friend and his wife done anything to improve their conditions? You mention diabetes and in most cases people who have it are overweight and have bad diets, have they tried to improve their lifestyle and lost any weight? I'm not saying this is the case here but a lot of people never do anything to help themselves first, they'd prefer to just moan about whatever perceived injustice is falling on them.

Type 1 diabetes has absolutely nothing to do with life style . It is an auto immune disease that attacks the beta cells in the pancreas . Children of 18 months have been diagnosed . Type 1 is a very different disease

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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