Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well, asymptomatic cases are not COVID-19 cases. COVID-19 is the disease not the virus

There is no disease as such, WHO just jumped to call it Covid-19 as others in the field had already named the virus SARS2 and they thought that would instill too much fear from SARS1 memories.

Covid-19 has been defined as the disease it causes but I think it'd be better to define it as the ailments caused by the virus.

Asymptomatic doesn't necessarily mean no ailments as we already know, so you're going down the wrong route there. Plus, these people are still contagious so we shouldn't be taking the power away from it just yet.

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

No we don't, there was no scientific study or any sort of study to the meat factory you are alluding to.

It was one throw away comment in a PR puff piece solely designed to make the owner sound like Oskar Schindler.

Well I know one employee who tested positive almost 3 weeks ago and is most definitely asymptomatic and back at work, and has said there were only 4 symptomatic cases

eigrod

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

I think those are still yesterday’s test numbers, that usually gets updated around 3-4pm and yesterday was also 101 positives from 4,998 tests.

Oh that’s my mistake then. I thought yesterday was 4838? Post deleted.

ACitizenErased

swab data hasn’t been updated yet lads, 101 is from yesterday

stephenjmcd

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

I think those are still yesterday’s test numbers, that usually gets updated around 3-4pm and yesterday was also 101 positives from 4,998 tests.

Ah ok, I thought it had been updated early. On the phone and the new hub doesn't seem to load properly for me so couldn't check.

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GooglePlus wrote: »

There is no disease as such, WHO just jumped to call it Covid-19 as others in the field had already named the virus SARS2 and they thought that would instill too much fear from SARS1 memories.

Covid-19 has been defined as the disease it causes but I think it'd be better to define it as the ailments caused by the virus.

Asymptomatic doesn't necessarily mean no ailments as we already know, so you're going down the wrong route there. Plus, these people are still contagious so we shouldn't be taking the power away from it just yet.

Surely ailments attributable to the virus are symptoms.

But looking at the ECDC case definition, it appears they included the laboratory criteria of "Detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid in a clinical specimen" as sufficient to diagnose COVID-19, making my point moot.

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

Well I know one employee who tested positive almost 3 weeks ago and is most definitely asymptomatic and back at work, and has said there were only 4 symptomatic cases

Sure you do and you waited until this very moment to tell us all about it.

:pac:

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

Sure you do and you waited until this very moment to tell us all about it.

:pac:

Want me to IM you the exact details?

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

Want me to IM you the exact details?

Your're grand.

How did you Brazilian friend get on that was waiting a test?

ACitizenErased

72 new cases in the north today - 17 in hospital and 1 in ICU

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

Your're grand.

How did you Brazilian friend get on that was waiting a test?

Negative. Was a work colleague

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

Negative

Good stuff.

Exact same answer to the question you posed.

normanoffside

ACitizenErased wrote: »

72 new cases in the north today - 17 in hospital and 1 in ICU

Very similar patterns North and South

Boggles

NPHET answering some questions.

Professor Philip Nolan, Chair of the NPHET Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group said it is is unlikely that if a child was to bring Covid-19 into a school they would spread it to another child.

He said adults are more likely to transmit the virus between households through adult-to-adult transmission.

Mr Nolan also said the systems are in place to react to any increase in the disease.

Again we are pretending humans under the age of 19 are biological different to other humans and completely ignoring the fact schools have been closed for 6 months and on that basis it would be unlikely for kids to transmit the virus in Irish schools going forward.

But two 17 year olds watching a match outside, that is lethal.

Benimar

Only 105 swabs. Beer count seems high in comparison?

MOR316

Boggles wrote: »

NPHET answering some questions.



Again we are pretending humans under the age of 19 are biological different to other humans and completely ignoring the fact schools have been closed for 6 months and on that basis it would be unlikely for kids to transmit the virus in Irish schools going forward.

But two 17 year olds watching a match outside, that is lethal.

That's such bull****

I have had people tell me, who have no medical experience whatsoever, that children can't spread it due to their developing bodies

This despite knowing adults and their children, who got the virus from a ****ing creche


I ain't a conspiracy type guy at all. Far from it but, that sorta balls they come out with is laughable

eigrod

Will shifting behind the bike shed become an immediate expulsion offence now?

Boggles

MOR316 wrote: »

I ain't a conspiracy type guy at all. Far from it but, that sorta balls they come out with is laughable

What do you mean?

32 kids in a poorly ventilated class room for 6 hours = good.

32 kids outside watching a match = bad.

That is the "science" our elected officials and public health officials are currently pushing.

I'm certainly not going to question that logic.

PCros

eigrod wrote: »

Will shifting behind the bike shed become an immediate expulsion offence now?

I had a few "immediate expulsions" behind the shed at that age!:pac:

MOR316

eigrod wrote: »

Will shifting behind the bike shed become an immediate expulsion offence now?

"Did ya top her did ya?"

Good times

Boggles

PCros wrote: »

I had a few "immediate expulsions" behind the shed at that age!:pac:

Fr. Murphy?

He was a rogue pup.

KrustyUCC

Benimar wrote: »

Only 105 swabs. Beer count seems high in comparison?

Private testing?

Not much of a backlog in swabs afaik

PCros

Boggles wrote: »

Fr. Murphy?

He was a rogue pup.

Jesus!:pac::pac:

MOR316

Boggles wrote: »

What do you mean?

32 kids in a poorly ventilated class room for 6 hours = good.

32 kids outside watching a match = bad.

That is the "science" our elected officials and public health officials are currently pushing.

I'm certainly not going to question that logic.

It's absolutely laughable. I genuinely feel at times they're taking the piss out of us

ACitizenErased

105 positive swabs from 7648 tests

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

What do you mean?

32 kids in a poorly ventilated class room for 6 hours = good.

32 kids outside watching a match = bad.

That is the "science" our elected officials and public health officials are currently pushing.

I'm certainly not going to question that logic.

The attendance at sport decision was not a scientifically valid decision, and seems to have been based on a couple of cases of people catching it travelling together to matches, however the thinking is - restrict less socially or economically important activities more, so the more important ones can operate with less

KrustyUCC

ACitizenErased wrote: »

105 positive swabs from 7648 tests

Nice to see the percentage fall back to 1.37%

ACitizenErased

ACitizenErased wrote: »

105 positive swabs from 7648 tests

Any idea where yourdeadwright found his extra beer?

ACitizenErased

There’s no backlog so we’ll see if yourdeadwright is right with his higher case figure than swabs

ACitizenErased

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Any idea where yourdeadwright found his extra beer?

Private testing maybe? That indicates a large cluster if it’s ~60 extra cases