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Tenet (Christopher Nolan) *spoilers from post 475*

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    memento, the prestige and tdk are masterpieces everything else he's done is meh

    opinions vary, I think that Dunkirk is his best personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Shred


    I've loved everything (yes, everything) Nolan's done up to this point and I'll go and see this on Thursday with an open mind as usual. I certainly won't be letting a few attention seeking reviews influence that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭Treppen


    Is it on in cinema only?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,968 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    glasso wrote: »
    opinions vary, I think that Dunkirk is his best personally.

    That was a good film. Not too long either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,032 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Treppen wrote: »
    Is it on in cinema only?
    Yes.. probably cinemas only chance to make a solid chunk of change this year.

    Though I did read the distributor are looking for a larger chunk of admission tickets than normal - 65% IIRC.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    Nolan is overrated as a director and a bit of a one hit wonder.

    The Dark Knight was a masterpiece but he hasn't made anything approaching the brilliance of that film since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Big Gerry wrote: »
    Nolan is overrated as a director and a bit of a one hit wonder.

    The Dark Knight was a masterpiece but he hasn't made anything approaching the brilliance of that film since.

    He's one of the most consistently excellent film-makers out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,032 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Big Gerry wrote: »
    Nolan is overrated as a director and a bit of a one hit wonder.

    The Dark Knight was a masterpiece but he hasn't made anything approaching the brilliance of that film since.
    Inception, you loon!

    Dunkirk (and TDKR even more so) left me a bit cold but everything else he's done, i've adored!


  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    He's one of the most consistently excellent film-makers out there.




    All his films since TDK have been a let down for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    Chris Nolan's college short film (3 mins), already showing his postmodern style of storytelling; toying with the perceptions of reality and identity by the protagonist(s). The shape of things to come.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQaNqcKY1Sc&feature=youtu.be


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    glasso wrote: »
    opinions vary, I think that Dunkirk is his best personally.

    Opinions do vary, I found Dunkirk to be one of his weaker movies. Just left me cold, had no reason to root for any of the characters, even the violence left off. Very well made movie technically for sure.

    Can't wait to get back to the cinema, just wish we could get over to the BFI for it (responsibly).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Basq wrote: »
    Inception, you loon!

    Dunkirk (and TDKR even more so) left me a bit cold but everything else he's done, i've adored!

    Agree. Dunkirk left me cold as well. So does Tom Hardy for some reason, but I seem to be the only one of that opinion.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    corcaigh07 wrote: »
    Opinions do vary, I found Dunkirk to be one of his weaker movies. Just left me cold, had no reason to root for any of the characters, even the violence left off. Very well made movie technically for sure.

    Can't wait to get back to the cinema, just wish we could get over to the BFI for it (responsibly).

    that's the whole point imo about Dunkirk.

    it's about war, not characters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Big Gerry wrote: »
    Nolan is overrated as a director and a bit of a one hit wonder.

    The Dark Knight was a masterpiece but he hasn't made anything approaching the brilliance of that film since.

    The first half of the 2nd Batman movie is great. 2nd half is plopsies. Less said about the third the better.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,833 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    corcaigh07 wrote: »
    Opinions do vary, I found Dunkirk to be one of his weaker movies. Just left me cold, had no reason to root for any of the characters, even the violence left off. Very well made movie technically for sure.

    Can't wait to get back to the cinema, just wish we could get over to the BFI for it (responsibly).

    Agreed

    As it was essentially three different chapters of the same book, there was no character who intertwined the whole movie, so no real central character to root for.... Leaving the movie visually stunning by emotionally cold.
    Yes it was tense, and harrowing in parts....

    But it was more of art gallery experience than a emotionally invested piece


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭steve_r


    Just looking at tickets now - have I left it too late for Cineworld IMAX this week? Can't seem to make any bookings or see availability.

    Is there another IMAX screen around? Would love the full experience


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,724 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    steve_r wrote: »
    Just looking at tickets now - have I left it too late for Cineworld IMAX this week? Can't seem to make any bookings or see availability.

    Is there another IMAX screen around? Would love the full experience

    Go to the IFI. Their 70mm print is closer to the proper IMAX experience than Cineworld’s digital IMAX. The closest actual IMAX screen is in London.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭dmn22


    Big Gerry wrote: »
    Nolan is overrated as a director and a bit of a one hit wonder.

    The Dark Knight was a masterpiece but he hasn't made anything approaching the brilliance of that film since.

    Big fan of Nolan in general. Only film I can remember not liking was Interstellar. The visuals were brilliant and some of the ideas were interesting but I felt like it was very condescending and up its own arse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 261 ✭✭mbradso2003


    Big Gerry wrote: »
    Nolan is overrated as a director and a bit of a one hit wonder.

    The Dark Knight was a masterpiece but he hasn't made anything approaching the brilliance of that film since.

    Both Memento and The Prestige were released before TDK. Inception and Interstellar released after TDK.

    Nolan is far from a one hit wonder and IMO has directed brilliant movies pre and post TDK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    steve_r wrote: »
    Just looking at tickets now - have I left it too late for Cineworld IMAX this week? Can't seem to make any bookings or see availability.

    Is there another IMAX screen around? Would love the full experience

    It’s not imax and cineworld is a dump imo.

    I’d go to omniplex Rathmines, lighthouse or IFI


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Gonna see this in 70MM in Barcelona this week !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,814 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Gonna see this in 70MM in Barcelona this week !!

    Savage :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    glasso wrote: »
    it's about war, not characters.

    A good film needs good characters, I found everyone in Dunkirk to be forgettable. Overall most of Nolans films are brilliant so looking forward to this although I don't think he will ever make a better film than Memento


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,509 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    Tom Cruise in a Nolan movie would be a bit of a hype singularity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    Tom giving them a dig out.

    Apparently Cruise hired the cinema for a private screening attended by the cast and crew of the latest Mission: Impossible that they are currently filming in London.

    All the crew would be quarantined and following Covid protocols so it's not quite the same as if Cruise watched it with Joe Public in a local multiplex, which is what some outlets are spinning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy



    Is Tom the only person in the cinema socially distancing ?
    Seems fairly packed .

    Edit :Answered by previous post. Private hiring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Apparently Cruise hired the cinema for a private screening attended by the cast and crew of the latest Mission: Impossible that they are currently filming in London.

    All the crew would be quarantined and following Covid protocols so it's not quite the same as if Cruise watched it with Joe Public in a local multiplex, which is what some outlets are spinning.

    for script rewrites :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Both Memento and The Prestige were released before TDK. Inception and Interstellar released after TDK.

    Nolan is far from a one hit wonder and IMO has directed brilliant movies pre and post TDK.

    Just watched Batman Begins a few days ago for the first time. It's alright. Passes 2.5 hours but not something to get awful excited about. But one thing that stood out to me - is Scarecrow the silliest type villain in Batman movies. I don't really get the point. Can spray a bit of gas at people. Great. Well done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    150 minutes of your life you will never get back is the headline review on the RTE website.

    I m not reading any reviews myself other than if I catch a headline.

    That headline does stand out that it will either be a love it or hate it film.

    That's fine by me, the one review I read for Interstellar absolutely panned it too and it was easily the best cinema experience I've ever had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Just watched Batman Begins a few days ago for the first time. It's alright. Passes 2.5 hours but not something to get awful excited about. But one thing that stood out to me - is Scarecrow the silliest type villain in Batman movies. I don't really get the point. Can spray a bit of gas at people. Great. Well done.

    Its a film that gets better on repeat watches.
    I've seen it about 5 or 6 times, its as good as The Dark Knight in my opinion, which is excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Memento was decent.

    The Prestige was fairly ****e and eclipsed by The Illusionist. Give me Ed Norton, Paul Giamatti and Philip Glass any day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    Just watched Batman Begins a few days ago for the first time. It's alright. Passes 2.5 hours but not something to get awful excited about. But one thing that stood out to me - is Scarecrow the silliest type villain in Batman movies. I don't really get the point. Can spray a bit of gas at people. Great. Well done.
    I wouldn't put it among his best movies, but it's a well done origin story. The characters are all clearly motivated, the action grounded, the threat credible enough that you didn't spend the movie picking holes in it. There's some clever lines that don't distract from the story. There are no lasers from space destroying famous landmarks. In terms of superhero movies that came before, it was more serious than Spiderman and like manna from heaven for fans of the character after the high camp of the Schumacher era.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    The Nal wrote: »
    Memento was decent.

    The Prestige was fairly ****e and eclipsed by The Illusionist. Give me Ed Norton, Paul Giamatti and Philip Glass any day.

    :eek:

    The Prestige is one of Nolans finest films, that and Interstellar are just perfect.

    The Prestige >>>>>>>>>> Illusionist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Giruilla


    Saw Tenet this morning and thought it was thoroughly enjoyable!

    Not as good as Inception, but was a good cinema experience.

    As with a lot of CN films, the dialogue is sadly indecipherable at times.. I think i would have enjoyed it a lot more with subtitles


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Giruilla wrote: »
    As with a lot of CN films, the dialogue is sadly indecipherable at times..

    One of the things that really bugs me. Lots of mumbling and weird production. Maybe hes hiding his dialogue because its usually fairly poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Giruilla wrote: »
    As with a lot of CN films, the dialogue is sadly indecipherable at times.. I think i would have enjoyed it a lot more with subtitles

    Thats disappointing,the dialogue in Interstellar was poorly mixed too .


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    yes the dialogue / other sound clash can be really bad and the most annoying thing about it is that it is particularly bad for a part very near the start which gets you to go "ah ffs" very early on.

    not sure how to feel about the movie - a cinema event I suppose but I found that the temporal aspects a bit too overwhelming at times which detracted from the experience for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Queasy Tadpole


    Thought it was ****e. Could hardly hear any dialog throughout the movie. The plot is difficult to follow. The acting was meh... Kenneth Branagh being the star. The cinematography... the score... nothing came close to his other films and I'm a huge fan of them all. Disappointing.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thought it was ****e. Could hardly hear any dialog throughout the movie. The plot is difficult to follow. The acting was meh... Kenneth Branagh being the star. The cinematography... the score... nothing came close to his other films and I'm a huge fan of them all. Disappointing.

    Most of the time he's doing some po-faced Roman Abramovich type with the odd grunt of a sentence :P

    But yes disappointing. Hyped but notwithstanding the hype disappointing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Queasy Tadpole


    True but when he wasn't on screen I was hoping it would switch back to him. I think him, Pattinson and the women were all better than the main character which is funny due to the ongoing discussion within the film about main protagonists.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I get you. Pattinson (and in some ways Branagh) was probably the best thing in it but even then he was just an occasional distraction with his sort of whimsical manner

    I found myself not caring about how the ending went as the denouement event kicked off and that feeling continued to the credits.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,724 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The full, unadulterated Christopher Nolan Cinema Experience (c) - for better and for worse.

    Very much the natural next step in Nolan's obsession with manipulating time, from the temporally playful editing of Dunkirk to the proudly high-concept setpieces of Inception and non-chronological wit of Memento. The central 'gimmick' of this film is less immediately obvious than the 'dream heist' setup of Inception, and certainly isn't quite as trailer friendly as the rotating centrepiece room of that film. But especially in the second half Nolan goes to town with his backwards and forward trickery, producing the sort of distinctively cynical, slick sessions of multiplex-friendly mind-****ery the man has built his career on. The film starts with multiple bangs via a great prologue, and is at its best with a series of extended, bombastic setpieces of high stakes and multiple interwoven perspectives. Bombast, booming soundtrack and indulgent action: pure Nolan.

    It's also pure Nolan in all the bad ways too. The first hour after the prologue is painful - there's a lot of getting the pieces into place, and while they do pay off for the most part, it doesn't make watching the plot (which manages that familiar big budget thriller trick of being simple and over complicated simultaneously) machinations any more enjoyable. The film tries desperately hard to have an emotional core, but a bland protagonist neuters out most of the potential in that regard. Pattinson is unsurprisingly the best in cast; Debicki does her best with a very 'female character in a Christopher Nolan film' role; and Branagh is like a token 90s schlock villain with a Russian accent.

    There's also the niggling sense that Nolan is being a bit too much of a smartarse for his own good: almost like he's demanding we be impressed by his time-bending narrative shenanigans as they unfold with the sort of clinical precision you expect from the man. No doubt there are pleasures to be found in seeing some of said developments unfold, but it's relentless and exhausting too. Inception explained itself too clearly, and this almost has the opposite problem: for a film loaded with exposition, it's too breathless for the big concepts to really land before we're rushed forward. But honestly I reckon that's a consequence of Nolan's increasingly frantic, uneasy editing: the bloody thing feels like it has been stuck together with duct tape. It feels like every minute of its 2.5 hours, while many scenes still needed more space to actually work.

    Like all Nolan films, though, what you're here for is ultimately a big, dumb, brash genre film with a 'smart' veneer. This is basically the spy film homage of the snow section in Inception blown into feature length - essentially a Bond film with weirdly specific time travel. It's a treat on the big screen, although also the kind of film you frequently want to shout out in frustration. It'll offer plenty of ammo for those who eagerly anticipate Nolan's every big summer event movie, and more deadly inverted ammo for those who feel the man has lost the run of himself.

    If you see one film back in the reopened cinemas? Babyteeth is better :p But ultimately this is the kind of big screen spectacle still worth social distancing for, even if it feels like Christopher Nolan is tediously daring you to watch it twice so you'll understand the darn internet timeline diagrams and YouTube explainers we can anticipate any day now.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I really think that it's about time that Nolan calls time on the the overriding use of the theme of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭MfMan


    :eek:

    The Prestige is one of Nolans finest films, that and Interstellar are just perfect.

    The Prestige >>>>>>>>>> Illusionist

    As someone who is decidedly Nolan-resistant, I thought The Prestige was superb, helped because of it's linearity perhaps.

    TDK was a bit meh, as usual we know Bale is being intense as he drops his voice to a low growl; can never watch it without thinking of the hilarious Kenny/Mysterion rip-off in South Park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    glasso wrote: »
    I really think that it's about time that Nolan calls time on the the overriding use of the theme of time.

    s-l400.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,724 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Shame this film doesn’t feature the Hans Zimmer classic No Time For Caution (Except For During A Pandemic, When You Should Cautiously Evaluate The Risk Of Going To The Cinema Based On The Status Of The Virus In Your Local Area)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I'm going to see it on Friday.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm giving it 6 out of Ten-et


  • Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


    So when
    She describes seeing the woman dive off the yacht and how she yearns for that freedom, yet later we see that it's her diving after killing Sato - so is free .... yet she then proceeds to explain to the protagonist how she is still captured , ie Sato is still alive, or did she kill a different Sato ?


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