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How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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  • #4082
    lulublue22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    i_surge wrote: »
    "There simply isn't" is never a good excuse.

    Redesign it you clowns.

    You seem very anxious for strikes etc etc . Unfortunately I don’t get to make decisions at ministerial level. Redesigning the Irish Education system is not in my remit.:rolleyes: At this stage I genuinely can’t tell if you are trolling or just given to hysterical hyperbole.


  • #4083
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    lulublue22 wrote: »
    You seem very anxious for strikes etc etc . Unfortunately I don’t get to make decisions at ministerial level. Redesigning the Irish Education system is not in my remit.:rolleyes: At this stage I genuinely can’t tell if you are trolling or just given to hysterical hyperbole.

    I'm just honestly sickened by how bad the plan is and the pass the parcel blame someone else thing while being complicit in letting it go ahead.

    SICKENED

    My clowns comment was levelled at all who came up with the plan, not you or other teachers.


  • #4084
    lulublue22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    i_surge wrote: »
    I'm just honestly sickened by how bad the plan is and the pass the parcel blame someone else thing while being complicit in letting it go ahead.

    SICKENED

    Thats fine - throwing around calks for strikes every two minutes and suggestions to redesign governmental guidelines isn’t conducive to improving the situation. As you feel so strongly perhaps you could voice your concerns to your local TD , Norma Foley , Stephen Donnelly etc. The more the public highlight their concerns to those that do have the power to redesign the Irish Education system the better.
    ETA to a/c for clarification in your post


  • #4085
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    lulublue22 wrote: »
    Thats fine - throwing around calks for strikes every two minutes and frankly fairly stupid suggestions ( to posters) to redesign governmental guidelines isn’t conducive to improving the situation. As you feel so strongly perhaps you could voice your concerns to your local TD , Norma Foley , Stephen Donnelly etc. The more the public highlight their concerns to those that do have the power to redesign the Irish Education system the better.

    I didn't tell posters to redesign guidelines.

    Also it is naive to try complain to official sources about the plan they came up with up. They are trying to brass neck it.

    Ye are the ones with the power to stop it.


  • #4086
    lulublue22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    i_surge wrote: »
    I didn't tell posters to redesign guidelines.

    Also it is naive to try complain to official sources about the plan they came up with up. They are trying to brass neck it.

    Ye are the ones with the power to stop it.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - mine is parents are the ones who have the most influence in this situation.


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  • #4087
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    i_surge wrote: »
    Ye are the ones with the power to stop it.

    How?


  • #4088
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    How?

    You know how, I have banged that drum enough. Ye are a compliant lot.


  • #4089
    Sunday Sunday
    Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭Sunday Sunday


    i_surge wrote: »
    I'm just honestly sickened by how bad the plan is and the pass the parcel blame someone else thing while being complicit in letting it go ahead.

    SICKENED

    My clowns comment was levelled at all who came up with the plan, not you or other teachers.

    Did the details of the plan only come to your attention recently?

    This whole thing is similar to stages of grief, you seem to be between stage 1 and 2 denial and anger.

    Most others appear to have moved on and are now between stage 4 and 5 depression and acceptance.

    Acceptance doesn't equal agreement.


  • #4090
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    lulublue22 wrote: »
    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - mine is parents are the ones who have the most influence in this situation.

    Which is exactly why I said it is a pass the parcel blame game.


  • #4091
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Sunday Sunday wrote: »
    Did the details of the plan only come to your attention recently?

    This whole thing is similar to stages of grief, you seem to be between stage 1 and 2 denial and anger.

    Most others appear to have moved on and are now between stage 4 and 5 depression and acceptance.

    Acceptance doesn't equal agreement.

    Being drip fed into my attention yes, every bit I hear is worst than the last.

    Acceptance is weak.


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  • #4092
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,444 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Ohh surge you've just made me LOL, thanks for that 😀


  • #4093
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    i_surge wrote: »
    You know how, I have banged that drum enough. Ye are a compliant lot.

    Both myself and my partner are teachers. If we go on strike, are you going to pay our mortgage?

    I think you are from the government - because the only group that would benefit from teachers striking right now is the government. How convenient that would be - they get the schools closed, but it can never be said they had to go back on their horrendous plans and they don't have to pay the teachers either so loadsa money to spend on Deliveroos out to the Convention Centre.


  • #4094
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    i_surge wrote: »
    You know how, I have banged that drum enough. Ye are a compliant lot.

    What can we possibly do, the public don't want to hear it, the unions have gone to ground, government don't care anymore. We have lives to fund, most of us cannot just quit our jobs even though we fear for the safety for our students, ourselves and our families. We are screaming out in every public way we can but people just don't care.


  • #4095
    Elliejo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭Elliejo


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Both myself and my partner are teachers. If we go on strike, are you going to pay our mortgage?

    I think you are from the government - because the only group that would benefit from teachers striking right now is the government. How convenient that would be - they get the schools closed, but it can never be said they had to go back on their horrendous plans and they don't have to pay the teachers either so loadsa money to spend on Deliveroos out to the Convention Centre.

    I'm beginning to think he is the owner of a placard making company, hopeful of the business of making "Strike On Here" signs!!


  • #4096
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Both myself and my partner are teachers. If we go on strike, are you going to pay our mortgage?

    I think you are from the government - because the only group that would benefit from teachers striking right now is the government. How convenient that would be - they get the schools closed, but it can never be said they had to go back on their horrendous plans and they don't have to pay the teachers either so loadsa money to spend on Deliveroos out to the Convention Centre.

    just a minor point, but if teachers go on strike they get paid regardless no?


  • #4097
    lulublue22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    froog wrote: »
    just a minor point, but if teachers go on strike they get paid regardless no?

    Why would you get paid if you went in strike ?


  • #4098
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    What can we possibly do, the public don't want to hear it, the unions have gone to ground, government don't care anymore. We have lives to fund, most of us cannot just quit our jobs even though we fear for the safety for our students, ourselves and our families. We are screaming out in every public way we can but people just don't care.

    I understand, i still feel it is a lamentable situation.


  • #4099
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    lulublue22 wrote: »
    Why would you get paid if you went in strike ?

    What is the point of having a union if you all just accept whatever is thrown at you?


  • #4100
    lulublue22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    i_surge wrote: »
    What is the point of having a union if you all just accept whatever is thrown at you?

    Seriously I’m not able - I was replying to the poster who said teachers get paid if they go on strike. Not commenting on unions or lack of or if we should ir shoukd not go on strike.


  • #4101
    Blondini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    froog wrote: »
    just a minor point, but if teachers go on strike they get paid regardless no?

    Jaysus no. Most teachers I know could not afford to strike for very long at all.


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  • #4102
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    froog wrote: »
    just a minor point, but if teachers go on strike they get paid regardless no?

    No we don't. I brought it up at a branch meeting once and apparently if we strike long enough there is 'something' we can avail of. I can't find any details of that 'something' on the TUI website right now. And I don't know how long 'long enough' is either but I was told that it isn't backdated. I couldn't afford to be without my pay for too long


  • #4103
    Minier81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Minier81


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    No we don't. I brought it up at a branch meeting once and apparently if we strike long enough there is 'something' we can avail of. I can't find any details of that 'something' on the TUI website right now. And I don't know how long 'long enough' is either but I was told that it isn't backdated. I couldn't afford to be without my pay for too long

    I think its something like 15/20€a day with siptu. I can't see the teaching unions strike pay being any more.


  • #4104
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    froog wrote: »
    just a minor point, but if teachers go on strike they get paid regardless no?
    why are you asking that??? Would it break your heart if they were getting money you dont get is it. Are you so resentful at this stage???? Do you think your going to be mr rich and people are stealing your money???? Get a grip . teachers are going to be at risk here. You should be saying thank you they are even prepared to do this. They dont have to. Health and safety laws dictate that they are putting themselves I cant believe the unions are allowing this but its corruption. Michael oleary has just spread this virus allover europe again and hes sitting with his ugly face and little thin fingers counting his money. Has he called you to celebrate with him. I doubt it


  • #4105
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    froog wrote: »
    just a minor point, but if teachers go on strike they get paid regardless no?

    No.
    :rolleyes:


  • #4106
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    why are you asking that??? Would it break your heart if they were getting money you dont get is it. Are you so resentful at this stage???? Do you think your going to be mr rich and people are stealing your money???? Get a grip . teachers are going to be at risk here. You should be saying thank you they are even prepared to do this. They dont have to. Health and safety laws dictate that they are putting themselves I cant believe the unions are allowing this but its corruption. Michael oleary has just spread this virus allover europe again and hes sitting with his ugly face and little thin fingers counting his money. Has he called you to celebrate with him. I doubt it

    jesus christ relax, i was just asking.

    and no i don't know michael o leary. :confused:


  • #4107
    Sunday Sunday
    Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭Sunday Sunday


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    No we don't. I brought it up at a branch meeting once and apparently if we strike long enough there is 'something' we can avail of. I can't find any details of that 'something' on the TUI website right now. And I don't know how long 'long enough' is either but I was told that it isn't backdated. I couldn't afford to be without my pay for too long

    Similar in some unionised sectors and its usually a pittance.


  • #4108
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    froog wrote: »
    jesus christ relax, i was just asking.

    and no i don't know michael o leary. :confused:
    Well your not a socially distanced mate then are you. Look after our teachers for ****s sake. Stop turning on them.


  • #4109
    Sunday Sunday
    Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭Sunday Sunday


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    Well your not a socially distanced mate then are you. Look after our teachers for ****s sake. Stop turning on them.

    They asked a perfectly valid question, they didn't know that information and now they do thanks to other posters answering them.

    Hardly turning on teachers ffs.


  • #4110
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    Well your not a socially distanced mate then are you. Look after our teachers for ****s sake. Stop turning on them.

    who's turning on teachers? if you read back a page or two you'll see i was standing up for them and criticizing the government plan.

    getting hysterical and seeing everyone as an enemy like that will not do teachers any favours by the way.


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  • #4111
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    meeeeh wrote: »
    So anyone who actually studied things, works in the field is a yes man because his opinion is not the same as an opinion of a gobshyte on Internet?

    Do you actually have any argument why he is a yes man looking for a cushy job besides not saying what you want him to say?

    And that kind of a moronuc post is thanked by at least 5 people. I hope it's not the teachers because you just thanked the message that says education and expertise is not important.
    I dunno who the fuck you think you are calling me a "gobshyte" and "moronuc". :D bahaha

    Looks like schools are the new €9 meal. It can't be spread there so off in go the high risk teachers. Expect mass resignations in the coming week.


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