How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

sideswipe · 21-08-2020 01:31PM

iguana wrote: »

Yes I do. Just because the anti-vaxxers shriek loudly it doesn't mean their loudness is proportionate to their popularity. People want their normal lives back. We are seeing now that as soon as restrictions relax anywhere in the world, the infection rates rise. The only way we can keep infection rates down at safe levels is to all stay home or take the vaccine. This could be one of the most miserable winters of our collective lives. Long nights, miserable weather and few of the social comforts we use to get ourselves through it. The tiny, tiny, tiny chance of adverse effects from a vaccine will seem like a small risk compared to how utterly crap our lives will have to be if we don't take it.

I think the term Anti-Vaxxers is a bit of a misnomer when it comes to the current situation. You can have doubts and fears about a rapidly developed vaccine and not be an anti-vaxxer per se.

Personally I'm pretty sure I'll be taking a vaccine as there are possible long term complications from catching Covid-19 which could be worse than anything a vaccine may produce anyway. The signals at this point all seem good so heres hoping we get an effective vaccine soon so threads like this are unnecessary.

PowerToWait · 21-08-2020 01:32PM

The people who give out the most about restrictions and closures are the same ones who won’t take the vaccine.

Or wear a mask.

khalessi · 21-08-2020 01:36PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

The people who give out the most about restrictions and closures are the same ones who won’t take the vaccine.

Or wear a mask.

Just wont take the first batch

Blondini · 21-08-2020 01:38PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

The people who give out the most about restrictions and closures are the same ones who won’t take the vaccine.

Or wear a mask.

And the first in line to blame gubbermint, gardai, teachers, millenials, snowflakes, pharma, farmers, foreigners etc when it all goes tits up...

wirelessdude01 · 21-08-2020 01:43PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

The people who give out the most about restrictions and closures are the same ones who won’t take the vaccine.

Or wear a mask.

The same ones causing aggro in shops when asked to wear a mask, same ones having/going to house parties, possibly the same ones who will send their children school when they are obviously sick of just dose them with Calpol.

the corpo · 21-08-2020 01:53PM

Murple wrote: »

What radio programme was this? Was she blaming the school?

No, she wasn't blaming the school at all, just incensed that the reality schools and parents are being to asked to live with is far different to the optics being put forward by her own Government. I don't think this coalition has much steam left in it.

Also, unless I heard it wrong, fairly sure I heard one the Taoiseach's retorts to the angry teacher yesterday was "I'm getting nothing but positive feedback from the schools and teachers". Whut?

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 21-08-2020 01:57PM

the corpo wrote: »

Also, unless I heard it wrong, fairly sure I heard one the Taoiseach's retorts to the angry teacher yesterday was "I'm getting nothing but positive feedback from the schools and teachers". Whut?

He definitely said that, laffed when I heard him say it. He's some spoofer

khalessi · 21-08-2020 02:00PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

He definitely said that, laffed when I heard him say it. He's some spoofer

They probably said, those guidelines are the greatest pile of manure, but he only heard the first part.

downthemiddle · 21-08-2020 02:03PM

the corpo wrote: »

No, she wasn't blaming the school at all, just incensed that the reality schools and parents are being to asked to live with is far different to the optics being put forward by her own Government. I don't think this coalition has much steam left in it.

Also, unless I heard it wrong, fairly sure I heard one the Taoiseach's retorts to the angry teacher yesterday was "I'm getting nothing but positive feedback from the schools and teachers". Whut?

Which will last longer, the current government or the reopening of schools?

wirelessdude01 · 21-08-2020 02:04PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

Which will last longer, the current government or the reopening of schools?

Ohh that is a good question.

jrosen · 21-08-2020 02:10PM

People are fatigued with the restrictions at this stage. Contrary to what has been written here in the last few posts the people I see the most now giving out are the mask wearing, rule following people. But they have simply had enough. I would class myself as one of them. I am a rule obeyer usually through and through but I also live in Kildare. Our life has been on hold since March. My kids have missed out of part of their education, birthdays, holidays, family. I was out of work. I had dental treatment postponed which has now lead to more issues which is costing me more money and pain.

mirrorwall14 · 21-08-2020 02:12PM

jrosen wrote: »

People are fatigued with the restrictions at this stage. Contrary to what has been written here in the last few posts the people I see the most now giving out are the mask wearing, rule following people. But they have simply had enough. I would class myself as one of them. I am a rule obeyer usually through and through but I also live in Kildare. Our life has been on hold since March. My kids have missed out of part of their education, birthdays, holidays, family. I was out of work. I had dental treatment postponed which has now lead to more issues which is costing me more money and pain.

Same. I’m very law abiding. My husband even more so. But as a kildare person I’m reaching the end of my tether. The notion that they are going to open our schools and still keep us locked down is just bat**** crazy to me. If we are opening schools where I’ll have 200 odd kids a day through my care then wtf can’t I go have a meal inside socially distanced?

And I really, really resent having my last ‘safe’ trips to both sets of at risk grandparents taken away from me before school openings

irishblessing · 21-08-2020 02:27PM

jrosen wrote: »

People are fatigued with the restrictions at this stage. Contrary to what has been written here in the last few posts the people I see the most now giving out are the mask wearing, rule following people. But they have simply had enough. I would class myself as one of them. I am a rule obeyer usually through and through but I also live in Kildare. Our life has been on hold since March. My kids have missed out of part of their education, birthdays, holidays, family. I was out of work. I had dental treatment postponed which has now lead to more issues which is costing me more money and pain.

Ugh that is the worst, so sorry hope you can get it sorted.

the corpo · 21-08-2020 02:35PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

Which will last longer, the current government or the reopening of schools?

I don't think you'd get good odds on that!

TTLF · 21-08-2020 02:35PM

i know this is a little off topic, but do you think there could be an LC/JC this year in the end? or will it end up being "up in the air not knowing" and suddenly "oop no more exams, predicted grades"

I guess that'll depend on the cases though. I just hope they make that decision sooner than later so kids aren't slaving over prepping for an exam that becomes non existant

wirelessdude01 · 21-08-2020 02:38PM

TTLF wrote: »

i know this is a little off topic, but do you think there could be an LC/JC this year in the end? or will it end up being "up in the air not knowing" and suddenly "oop no more exams, predicted grades"

I guess that'll depend on the cases though. I just hope they make that decision sooner than later so kids aren't slaving over prepping for an exam that becomes non existant

I'm primary but I think students/teachers at secondary have to prepare for actual and predicted at leaving cert.

Blondini · 21-08-2020 03:57PM

TTLF wrote: »

i know this is a little off topic, but do you think there could be an LC/JC this year in the end? or will it end up being "up in the air not knowing" and suddenly "oop no more exams, predicted grades"

I reckon predicted grades. The incoming 3rd and 6th years missed a lot of class time and they're going to miss more when the schools shut again in a few weeks time.

marilynrr · 21-08-2020 04:03PM

sideswipe wrote: »

I think the term Anti-Vaxxers is a bit of a misnomer when it comes to the current situation. You can have doubts and fears about a rapidly developed vaccine and not be an anti-vaxxer per se.

Completely agree. I'm not an anti-vaxxer. My kids were vaccinated. I however refused the swine flu vaccine. It was offered to me because I was pregnant. My own doctor also was not sure about it.

I know a woman who got the swine flu jab and it has ruined her life. That would make me even more cautious to take a rushed vaccine in future. That doesn't make me an anti-vaxxer.

is_that_so · 21-08-2020 04:03PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I'm primary but I think students/teachers at secondary have to prepare for actual and predicted at leaving cert.

Oh, I think they'll shunt them all into halls next year, with PPE to beat the band if needed. While I fully agree that graded and assessment needs to be a bigger part of it, it will be a complete public health failure if we are still hostage to COVID-19 in 12 months' time.

alroley · 21-08-2020 04:05PM

Selfishly I am hoping for exams to go ahead next year because I have the most amazing 3rd year group that would absolutely knock it out of the park in an exam. My calculated grades for them would appear ridiculously high based off previous years results, so they'd all be downgraded.

My 6th years are pretty consistent with previous years in the school, so they'd be fine.

mirrorwall14 · 21-08-2020 04:31PM

Changes to the exams published and the DES website has completely crashed out. Argh

mirrorwall14 · 21-08-2020 04:32PM

I’m in https://www.education.ie/en/Schools-Colleges/Information/Curriculum-and-Syllabus/assessment-arrangements-junior-cycle-and-leaving-certificate-examinations-2021.pdf

wirelessdude01 · 21-08-2020 04:37PM

What are the changes?

markodaly · 21-08-2020 04:37PM

At the end of the day, schools just have to re-open. All the moaning, cripping, 'what about this edge case' has to be parked.

If we can all agree on the basic premise that the schools have to re-open, we can go from there.

Blondini · 21-08-2020 04:41PM

markodaly wrote: »

At the end of the day, schools just have to re-open. All the moaning, cripping, 'what about this edge case' has to be parked.

If we can all agree on the basic premise that the schools have to re-open, we can go from there.

They ARE reopening.

MickeyLeari · 21-08-2020 04:42PM

Blondini wrote: »

They ARE reopening.

But should they be?

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 21-08-2020 04:42PM

Assessment Tasks gone for JC it seems. Can't remember now but were CBAs dropped to do just one?

Blondini · 21-08-2020 04:46PM

MickeyLeari wrote: »

But should they be?

In terms of health and safety, absolutely not in a million bleedin years.

In terms of childminding and the economy, yes.

Benimar · 21-08-2020 04:47PM

MickeyLeari wrote: »

But should they be?

They should be reopening...but not in the manner they are.

A full return of students is madness.

markodaly · 21-08-2020 04:47PM

MickeyLeari wrote: »

But should they be?

Yes, they should.

There is alot of resitance from some more vocal teachers on this. We all saw the interaction between a teacher and MM yesterday. Completely over the top of course, her use of the words criminal for example.

But everyone appears to have an opinion but no real alternative plan.

How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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