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How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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  • #3242
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    glack wrote: »
    Its awful. Imagine a 4 year old? How sad. I would have to email the principal my concerns on this. I get they are under pressure but that is not a workable option.

    My 4 year old is starting in this school.


  • #3243
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    its some area that had a door out to it that in all my years teaching in the school have never been opened. Just leads to outside.

    Is it enclosed?


  • #3244
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Is it just a bench outside?

    Makes the stock cupboard in your school look luxurious .


  • #3245
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Is it enclosed?

    No!


  • #3246
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    If I were a teacher in a school that put children outside if there were sick I would refuse to do it . That is quite simply a step too far


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  • #3247
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Sorry if this has been asked and/or answered already, but are the schools going to have any staggered arrival/finishing for the classes or will everyone still be arriving at the same time?


  • #3248
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Sunday Sunday wrote: »
    Seems extreme around books, bags, lunches and the uniform stuff given that most transmission is through person to person inhalation.

    The chance of transmission through
    inanimate objects is very small.

    Sooner they relax this nonsense the better and let teachers get back to doing their real jobs rather than being hygiene monitors.

    I totally agree. I'm also annoyed as I've bought 2 new school bags, and lunch boxes etc for my kids and they won't be needed...


  • #3249
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Sunday Sunday wrote: »
    Seems extreme around books, bags, lunches and the uniform stuff given that most transmission is through person to person inhalation.

    We are also going with something similar but without the uniform stuff.

    Lunch and drink is only thing that goes in and out of school for the month of September, to be reviewed then.


  • #3250
    Sunday Sunday
    Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭Sunday Sunday


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    I thought she was joking first. The kids have to line up in the morning to do temp check before they will be allowed in and if abyone with temp will be made wait outside for 10 mins before checking again....

    Cause more trouble than its worth to be honest and will result in congregating students and teachers which is what they want schools to avoid.

    I can actually envisage a few schools running into legal difficulties with their own interpretation of the guidelines.


  • #3251
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Suckit wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been asked and/or answered already, but are the schools going to have any staggered arrival/finishing for the classes or will everyone still be arriving at the same time?

    We are anyway. Infants to 2nd in 15minutes earlier than 3rd to 6th.


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  • #3252
    BonsaiKitten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭BonsaiKitten


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    No!

    God what if you have a bolter? That is so dangerous.


  • #3253
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Suckit wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been asked and/or answered already, but are the schools going to have any staggered arrival/finishing for the classes or will everyone still be arriving at the same time?

    We have staggered start and finishing times. Trying to get my head around what I'm doing for the receiving period in the morning. Going to be nearly 1.5 hours between both.


  • #3254
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Suckit wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been asked and/or answered already, but are the schools going to have any staggered arrival/finishing for the classes or will everyone still be arriving at the same time?

    We are also having staggered entrances and exits and my children's school is too


  • #3255
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Sunday Sunday wrote: »
    Cause more trouble than its worth to be honest and will result in congregating students and teachers which is what they want schools to avoid.

    I can actually envisage a few schools running into legal difficulties with their own interpretation of the guidelines.

    I can see us running into them anyway. Children isolating outside would be a huge issue for me. I've been teaching a long time and have had some very ill children at times and putting them outside is heartbreaking


  • #3256
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Makes the stock cupboard in your school look luxurious .

    Sure does. I don't feel so bad now.

    As an aside we have a possible case in our GAA club so have to deal with that as well now.


  • #3257
    downthemiddle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Sunday Sunday wrote: »
    Auto response moat :pac::pac:

    Has your night shift not started gal?


  • #3258
    BonsaiKitten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭BonsaiKitten


    No staggered entrance/exit at mine but due to the school setup we have a lot of external classroom doors and access points to use instead.


  • #3259
    irishblessing
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 962 ✭✭✭irishblessing


    donaghs wrote: »
    Thanks for that informative addition to the discussion. So do you think the schools shouldn’t open? What do you propose?

    Do you think there will be COVID deaths if schools open? I
    An unfortunate side-affect of the lockdown warning is this type of anxiety.

    You haven't read any of the thread yet come in at this stage when your questions have literally been addressed dozens of times. I was late to the thread too but at least I did my due diligence.

    It was always possible to plan differently. Phased reopening with a remote learning/blended learning plan that would reduce class sizes which is badly needed, and provide a program and continuity to people/kids at high risk, who become sick and in the event or rather inevitability that schools will close or need to quarantine.


  • #3260
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Sure does. I don't feel so bad now.

    As an aside we have a possible case in our GAA club so have to deal with that as well now.

    Ur not in wexford?? Lots of probs around our area with cases in clubs. Well all imported cases but some clubs closed currently


  • #3261
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    I can see us running into them anyway. Children isolating outside would be a huge issue for me. I've been teaching a long time and have had some very ill children at times and putting them outside is heartbreaking

    I would refuse to do that . Its cruel and dangerous


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  • #3262
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I would refuse to do that . Its cruel and dangerous

    Principal and vice principal in agreement! Not much we can do about it...


  • #3263
    Sunday Sunday
    Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭Sunday Sunday


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    I can see us running into them anyway. Children isolating outside would be a huge issue for me. I've been teaching a long time and have had some very ill children at times and putting them outside is heartbreaking

    Puts you in a very difficult position, being asked to do something that you can't in all honesty do. Not good, hope they sort it out before the return.

    Has anyone heard about schools restricting toilet use, I've heard a few secondary schools going down this route. Again need to ask is this a balanced approach, is it necessary or even legal?


  • #3264
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    Principal and vice principal in agreement! Not much we can do about it...

    I couldn’t put a child in danger regardless of who asked me too . Of course you can do something , you can inform them it’s dangerous and a health hazard


  • #3265
    BonsaiKitten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭BonsaiKitten


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    Principal and vice principal in agreement! Not much we can do about it...

    This is the point at which you have a quiet word in some of the more... cantankerous...parents ears and let them at it. Has always worked for me ;)

    Seriously I could not countenance putting an ill child outdoors in the winter :(


  • #3266
    tscul32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭tscul32


    In our school every classroom has a back door to the outside so kids enter and leave through that. There are lines for each class in the yard. There are 2 yards but there are also 6 classes in each year (3rd - 6th, senior school) so half of each class will be in at 9 and the other half at 9.15. Saves having 20+ kids all milling around at the same time.
    I do think though that there will be a high level of absenteeism so the classes will rarely be at full capacity.


  • #3267
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    Ur not in wexford?? Lots of probs around our area with cases in clubs. Well all imported cases but some clubs closed currently

    No, not in Wexford. If confirmed it could mean three teams will need to be tested. Approx 65/70 players plus management for one team.


  • #3268
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I couldn’t put a child in danger regardless of who asked me too . Of course you can do something , you can inform them it’s dangerous and a health hazard

    Well woulf make me less inclined to report a sick child anyway that's for sure!


  • #3269
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    Well woulf make me less inclined to report a sick child anyway that's for sure!

    It will also put children off saying they are sick once they cop on what that entails . I can just imagine a child not saying anything until they puke all over the table


  • #3270
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    It will also put children off saying they are sick once they cop on what that entails . I can just imagine a child not saying anything until they puke all over the table

    I agree. Its just qwful!!


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  • #3271
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    Well woulf make me less inclined to report a sick child anyway that's for sure!

    Would the management of the school be thinking that way, to discourage sick children from being sent in?


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