How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Are you a mod of this forum? If not, please stop back seat modding and telling me what to do.

I'll let others decide who is being aggressive, repetitive and bullying.

Sorry you just told Bobtheman what he couldnt say

Blondini wrote: »

No. She admitted and boasted that she did NO work from March while decent teachers did their best.

She's no victim. I can assure you.

I can absolutely assure everyone that I'm not a 'victim'.

I did make mistakes and I should have done differently March-June I fully admit that. I am ashamed and wish I could go back and do differently. I have thought about this over the last few months and I'll be doing by best in very, very difficult circumstances over the next months if we shut the schools again.

My worry is that other teachers will do nothing again. I've heard colleagues say that, and I'm shocked that teachers on this very thread are saying that one email a week (with no follow up support) is enough. Teachers will never, ever be sanctioned for this and all the teachers reading this thread know that.

teachinggal123 wrote: »

I can absolutely assure everyone that I'm not a 'victim'.

I did make mistakes and I should have done differently March-June I fully admit that. I am ashamed and wish I could go back and do differently. I have thought about this over the last few months and I'll be doing by best in very, very difficult circumstances over the next months if we shut the schools again.

My worry is that other teachers will do nothing again. I've heard colleagues say that, and I'm shocked that teachers on this very thread are saying that one email a week (with no follow up support) is enough. Teachers will never, ever be sanctioned for this and all the teachers reading this thread know that.

It's good that you realise you could have done better and will attempt to going forward. It might not be the right attitude but I would focus on myself and my own pupils before I would worry about what others are doing.

teachinggal123 wrote: »

I can absolutely assure everyone that I'm not a 'victim'.

I did make mistakes and I should have done differently March-June I fully admit that. I am ashamed and wish I could go back and do differently. I have thought about this over the last few months and I'll be doing by best in very, very difficult circumstances over the next months if we shut the schools again.

My worry is that other teachers will do nothing again. I've heard colleagues say that, and I'm shocked that teachers on this very thread are saying that one email a week (with no follow up support) is enough. Teachers will never, ever be sanctioned for this and all the teachers reading this thread know that.

Good for you - I mean that. It's difficult to admit you were wrong and it's good to know that you will try to learn from it. For other teachers that didn't do a tap - a small number I imagine - perhaps they are doing their own soul searching now, same as you. Perhaps not the ones that are in your immediate circle, as it seems to me that they have directly told you that if schools close again, they are putting their feet back up, but perhaps not all are like that.

There are some people that are self-motivating, proactive people by nature. And there are others that are completely lost without specific direction from their manager/principal - either because they are recently qualified and just don't know where to start, or because they are very comfortable in their positions and without any blowback from the principal are happy to just breeze along. Obviously, some guidance from the DE on online learning would mitigate that.

I strongly suspect that anybody who comes on an anonymous forum saying "I'm a teacher and I didn't bother my behind making any effort while schools were closed" isn't a teacher but a person with a grudge against teachers. Even the laziest and most useless, the ones counting the hours to retirement, are aware that they'll have to go in and face their classes again. The sense of responsibility and the guilt would prevent you from just abandoning students. How would anybody ever expect any sort of cooperation from students ever again if their teacher went dark during lockdown? There's no way a teacher would put themselves in that position.

Just got a text there from the kids primary school a worker in the school tested positive yesterday. School now being deep cleaned

Sammy2012 wrote: »

Are you in Ireland?? Why would they need to text if school isn't open?!

yes in laois. I was wondering the same thing. We are in a small village so maybe its someone local

Well after much debate about how school kids will get to class:

Despite the general public being advised not to use public transport, school buses will start running next week without social distancing. Services will operate as originally envisaged - without distancing, but with a range of other public health measures in place to get pupils back to school.

irishblessing wrote: »

Well if I may respond to this question as one half of a working parent in a two working parent household, I would hope that daily emails, videos, instruction, grading, etc will be the normal going forward. I think we can all agree at this point that shut downs will happen, there are already parents pulling their children to homeschool (I'm hearing this everywhere) and children/families who are high risk and a quality education at home is needed.

Example from secondary here so take ftom it what you will

My OH didnt quite do that but was setting assignments, putting screen recordings up etc 3 times a week for most classes (+ using tablet to correct give feedback etc) that only lasted brfore the school came back telling teachers to tone it back due to the large volume of complaints about the undue stress it was causing coming from parents and stundents

The initial multiple contacts was at the behest of the principal (i myself felt it was probably counter productive)
But i can see why the wanted that way after all who doesnt want to be the best boy in the class even if its counter productive for others


Anyway, even at the once or twice a week assignments + correcting and sending back corrections she was working long days about 5 long days a week and then a half day...occasionally there was a break of a full day off and once two days (where all corrections were back and new assignments had been set but not returned yet)


After about 4 weeks of this (i was sort of bemused) she came to me saying it she coulfnt keep doing tbis we sat down and we worked out she was spending hours communicating with kids who were not submitting work or what looked a lot to me like deliberately misunderstanding /pretending not to understand to get out of work......i told she had to be kess of a martyr and just do her best....send the emails of names of kids not engaging or deliberately shirking to management and let thrm do thr chasing (part of me thinks its only being done so they cant be accused if not doing it anyway)

Even at that she was still working well into the evenings during the working week....

The whole spiel about students taking responsibility for their own learning amuses me sometimes.....what that looks like is suffering consequences if you have been instructed properly and received the materials and resources needed to do your work and you havent.....not demonising all teachers because of some that don't toe the line.....

Then there was a group of oarents that wanted cimmunication at the start of the week but not coming up to the weekend and another quite vocal group that didnt want it too early in the morning and another parent that insisted it should be first thing in the morning....... as if they couldn't choose to read the email at the time of the day they wanted themselves or tell their kids no devices until x times

Tldr maybe one clear communication once a week with an apprprite level of work and backup explanation + the correction feedback and a reasonable deadline is appropriate for distance learnimg rather than badger them day in day out....i think it certainly is more than enough for secondary anywsy where ther could be 9 or 10 classes in play and well over a hundted students to try work with....a certain petcentage of whom genuinely need individual help

Just a thought