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FF/FG/Green Next Government

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  • #6332
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    The alternative is a competent government. From the start this hasn't been one.


    Dodge, duck, dive Francie....


  • #6333
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    Given you have all the answers, and seeing as any answer from anyone else isn't up to snuff in your opinion, perhaps you can tell us what you'd do.

    Do you think the government have handled the last couple of weeks well?

    If not, what would you do different?


    When did I say I have the answers?


    Dodge, duck, dive.....hillarious the lot of you.


  • #6334
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,714 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Dodge, duck, dive Francie....

    What?

    We know you want me to say SF would do better. But I don't know that anymore than anyone else.

    What I do know is that this government has been in chaos since the start and that needs to change or the government needs to be changed by the people for whomsoever they decide.


  • #6335
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,894 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Bowie wrote: »
    The government are using NPHET as a suggestion.
    The meat plants never supplied PPE or quarantine workers coming from abroad. Why wasn't this being policed?
    The bar with the barman on the bar dancing pouring out shots to numerous individuals unlikely to even be fined.
    FF/FG/Greens are treating Covid number 19 like Lemony Snicket's A series of unfortunate events.
    That clear enough?

    Socially distance. Wear masks. Supply PPE to staff. Close or penalise any business flouting rules.

    No, it isn't clear enough.

    This latest post is a series of descriptions of unconnected events, unsubstantiated allegations, silly jokes and random solutions unrelated to the rest of the post without any logical correlation. Pretty much like the child's book you mention.


  • #6336
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,894 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    Given you have all the answers, and seeing as any answer from anyone else isn't up to snuff in your opinion, perhaps you can tell us what you'd do.

    Do you think the government have handled the last couple of weeks well?

    If not, what would you do different?

    I think having the Fianna Fail ministers in government has lowered the quality of decision-making. If it was FG/Greens with a few independents, things would have been much better.


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  • #6337
    Floppybits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,021 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    Given you have all the answers, and seeing as any answer from anyone else isn't up to snuff in your opinion, perhaps you can tell us what you'd do.

    Do you think the government have handled the last couple of weeks well?

    If not, what would you do different?

    Bet you wont have an answer to that. ShefWed is nothing but a WUM who is getting their kicks behaving like this. It's easy for this person to pontificate from his high horse.


  • #6338
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,781 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Who said look at the Shinners?


    If you can't understand a joke about the current government hiding crayons on SF I am just amazed. Wow is right, WOW

    the only funny thing there is you think you made a joke


  • #6339
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    No, it isn't clear enough.

    This latest post is a series of descriptions of unconnected events, unsubstantiated allegations, silly jokes and random solutions unrelated to the rest of the post without any logical correlation. Pretty much like the child's book you mention.

    Random?
    Socially distance. Wear masks. Supply PPE to staff. Close or penalise any business flouting rules.

    Its clear you are only here to run distraction.
    You are happy that the government are not following NPHET closely? Do you think things are being handled well in a clear manner?


  • #6340
    Hawthorn Tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Hawthorn Tree


    This government is falling apart at the seams. They don't seem to be able to communicate in any way effectively - internally or externally.
    There is so much confusion now. The FF ministers in particular seem to be clueless. I think we'll actually see another general election next year.


  • #6341
    jonnny68
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    This government is falling apart at the seams. They don't seem to be able to communicate in any way effectively - internally or externally.
    There is so much confusion now. The FF ministers in particular seem to be clueless. I think we'll actually see another general election next year.

    hopefully this year, jesus ive never seen such a bad incompetenmt government.


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  • #6342
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,714 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    This government is falling apart at the seams. They don't seem to be able to communicate in any way effectively - internally or externally.
    There is so much confusion now. The FF ministers in particular seem to be clueless. I think we'll actually see another general election next year.

    Michael Martin now trying to insist there is no confusion :) On the day his own Dept of the Taoiseach had to clarify one of the restrictions after a huge level of complaint. :)


  • #6343
    CrankyHaus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    This government is falling apart at the seams. They don't seem to be able to communicate in any way effectively - internally or externally.
    There is so much confusion now. The FF ministers in particular seem to be clueless. I think we'll actually see another general election next year.


    Their incompetence is astonishing. They can't be long for government if they keep this up.


    It will be good for a laugh if they take a leaf from Labour's book to deal with any criticism by saying that their selfless service to the nation is beyond question but that their PR messaging is failing to get that through the electorate's thick skulls.


  • #6344
    Hawthorn Tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Hawthorn Tree


    blanch152 wrote: »
    I think having the Fianna Fail ministers in government has lowered the quality of decision-making. If it was FG/Greens with a few independents, things would have been much better.

    I agree even though Ryan was terrible in an interview yesterday on returning to school.


  • #6345
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    I agree even though Ryan was terrible in an interview yesterday on returning to school.

    TBF nobody's the sharpest after a nap.


  • #6346
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,313 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    The alternative is a competent government. From the start this hasn't been one.

    And who would that be?


  • #6347
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,313 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    blanch152 wrote: »
    I think having the Fianna Fail ministers in government has lowered the quality of decision-making. If it was FG/Greens with a few independents, things would have been much better.

    FF are finding it tough out there all right playing senior hurling. Sure they had all the answers in opposition, now when they are out there playing ball its a different game and we can see they not match fit at all.

    Greens are barely holding on as well.


    FG kinda holding steady.

    The next few months are going to be interesting. No wonder Leo is keeping such a high profile, he can smell an election in the air soon.


  • #6348
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,714 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    markodaly wrote: »
    And who would that be?

    Whoever the electorate decide are better than the incumbents.
    If they are not competent, try again.


  • #6349
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,714 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    markodaly wrote: »
    FF are finding it tough out there all right playing senior hurling. Sure they had all the answers in opposition, now when they are out there playing ball its a different game and we can see they not match fit at all.

    Greens are barely holding on as well.


    FG kinda holding steady.

    The next few months are going to be interesting. No wonder Leo is keeping such a high profile, he can smell an election in the air soon.

    I look forward to Leo trying to wash his hands of involvement.


  • #6350
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Jeez FF are so done.

    Going into this government I thought they had the least impressive team out of all the parties- even behind labour & soc dems but thought surely someone would impress from somewhere.

    Nah- they are goosed & they’ll prob not exist after 2 elections time.

    Jeez they are atrocious


  • #6351
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    Jeez FF are so done.

    Going into this government I thought they had the least impressive team out of all the parties- even behind labour & soc dems but thought surely someone would impress from somewhere.

    Nah- they are goosed & they’ll prob not exist after 2 elections time.

    Jeez they are atrocious

    We can but dream.

    The latest from Mícheál that "there's no confusion" is Comical Ali levels of obliviousness.


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  • #6352
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    When did I say I have the answers?


    Dodge, duck, dive.....hillarious the lot of you.

    I can ask those questions that you're dodging, ducking and diving again if you want?

    Here goes:

    Do you think the government have handled the last couple of weeks well?

    If not, what would you do different?


  • #6353
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    We can but dream.

    The latest from Mícheál that "there's no confusion" is Comical Ali levels of obliviousness.

    Watching that Stephen Donnelly interview just sent me over the edge on them.

    They are gone, g’luck- just a pity we have to wait a few years for another election.

    Norma Foley aswell? FFS


  • #6354
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,313 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Whoever the electorate decide are better than the incumbents.
    If they are not competent, try again.

    So, the status quo then, as the current government have the numbers.

    Right so! :)

    *Government lasts 5 years.


  • #6355
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    Watching that Stephen Donnelly interview just sent me over the edge on them.

    They are gone, g’luck- just a pity we have to wait a few years for another election.

    Norma Foley aswell? FFS

    And you say that as a compatriot of hers. :P

    My mate's cousin is a FF councillor in Limerick and he was saying that he's always at her about the dearth of talent about and she disagrees, that's how oblivious the cult of FF is.

    As I say, I hope that this is finally the moment the eejits who voted for them realise that they are irredeemable.


  • #6356
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    markodaly wrote: »
    So, the status quo then, as the current government have the numbers.

    Right so! :)

    *Government lasts 5 years.

    Not exactly, a Dáil lasts a maximum of 5 years. A government well, you remember the Rainbow Coalition right and how that came about??


  • #6357
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,313 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    Watching that Stephen Donnelly interview just sent me over the edge on them.

    They are gone, g’luck- just a pity we have to wait a few years for another election.

    Norma Foley aswell? FFS

    Stephen Donnelly was well known in the Dail and among other TD's, to be full of $hit. Talks a great game in the media and can come across well ina type of 'management consultant' way. However, being in charge of a department and a minister at Cabinet?

    Something else entirely.

    Actually he reminds me of Eoin o'Broin. He also talks a good game as well with very nice catchy soundbite solutions to problems.
    If or when he ever gets to sit at a Cabinet table, we will see the same type of outcome.


  • #6358
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,714 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    markodaly wrote: »
    So, the status quo then, as the current government have the numbers.

    Right so! :)

    *Government lasts 5 years.

    You reckon a party that is 'not match fit' and one that is 'barely hangin on' are gonna get the numbers next time?

    First requirement of sound political analysis is sound political analysis mark.


  • #6359
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    And you say that as a compatriot of hers. :P

    My mate's cousin is a FF councillor in Limerick and he was saying that he's always at her about the dearth of talent about and she disagrees, that's how oblivious the cult of FF is.

    As I say, I hope that this is finally the moment the eejits who voted for them realise that they are irredeemable.

    Yeah, as a I said- the least impressive of all the parties!

    FF must be bad in limerick alright if Patrick o Donovan is getting in


  • #6360
    Jimi H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭Jimi H


    FF completely out of their depth. It seems to me they are losing the confidence and trust of the public. Looks like the schools reopening will be a fiasco. Going easy on the meat factories and restricting people at the same time gives the impression of unfairness. Utter confusion over their messaging. Winter around the corner and no sign of a long term plan to deal with the disease. I really hope they get their act together because we desperately need leadership but they need to get the finger out.


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  • #6361
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,313 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    And you say that as a compatriot of hers. :P

    My mate's cousin is a FF councillor in Limerick and he was saying that he's always at her about the dearth of talent about and she disagrees, that's how oblivious the cult of FF is.

    As I say, I hope that this is finally the moment the eejits who voted for them realise that they are irredeemable.

    This was always the case with the latest crop of FF TD's.

    Most of them are just not very good. My mother, an old school FF voter remarked on it, saying that FG had a much better front bench than FF.

    But just look elsewhere. Look at SF, they have about 2-3 maybe.. ok performers, but the rest are idiots of the highest order. From an anti-vaxer, to Damien 'up da ra' to some women who went on holiday when the General Election was on as she didn't expect to get elected....

    SF have 37 TD's and only about 2 or 3 of them would ever be capable if that to be in government.

    In fairness to FG, they do seem to be the most capable of the lot, at least this generation are. The polls are showing that as well.


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