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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Sorry, not a personal jibe at you...

    I meant like when people are getting annoyed about the restrictions or the high numbers and they do that by fighting the people who are imparting the information.

    Ah, gotcha. Tough to have lively debate in here without a label of doom-monger/sugar-coater/head-in-sand being applied to you depending on the info posted :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    It doesn't make any sense at all what's the point of giving Gardai power that they can't use, the latest restrictions are in place till September 13th but Gardai can't get that power till September 15th, that's totally dumbass.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,856 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Then the virus says "****, none of these kids have ACE-2 receptors so we have no way into their cells to infect them."

    Then the virus says "Lets find one of those old age homes that these idiots didn't protect back in March and April."

    Covid is less prevalent in kids, also they don’t seem to manifest very serious symptoms but kids still get covid and can infect others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,385 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Ryanair are still being pricks about it. I guess they must have refunded all their customers in order to try take the moral highground.

    https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1296046952518492160


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Ryanair are still being pricks about it. I guess they must have refunded all their customers in order to try take the moral highground.

    https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1296046952518492160
    Will any company even come close to looking as bad as they have this year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭amandstu


    tigger123 wrote: »
    People are being advised against public transport as it is a number of people from different households in the same confined space.

    Has public transport been identified as a significant transport of the disease recently or earlier on?

    Are masks being worn by everyone on board?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Will any company even come close to looking as bad as they have this year.

    I think Larry Goodman owns a company or two and we can trace outbreaks back to his premises, not sure the same applies to RA.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Ryanair are still being pricks about it. I guess they must have refunded all their customers in order to try take the moral highground.

    https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1296046952518492160

    Why would Ryanair refund people for flights that are still going. The Govt needed to ban people from going, not advise against it but no course no they didn't have the balls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    What do the new restrictions mean for gyms?
    Or is there any effect on them as they are business?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,385 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Why would Ryanair refund people for flights that are still going.

    Sigh.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ryanairrefunds&src=typeahead_click


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I think Larry Goodman owns a company or two and we can trace outbreaks back to his premises, not sure the same applies to RA.
    I don't think Larry's businesses have released multiple statements basically saying, "To hell with this pandemic, let us get on with business, there's money to be made!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    tom1ie wrote: »
    What do the new restrictions mean for gyms?
    Or is there any effect on them as they are business?

    Was in one this morning ,Just no more than 6 people I think at anyone time ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    Had a word with an old couple just now in Spar. Politely told them to go home as they were not shopping at their designated time as per the new rules laid out by our experts. It was very satisfying watching them put down their basket and walk away after my chat with them. We are all in it together guys and the rules are the rules so it’s our duty as good citizens to set each other on the right path.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    We need more regulations. The nice West African security guard at Spar isn’t so nice to me anymore as I have personally tried to motivate him to tighten the ship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    seamus wrote: »
    I don't think Larry's businesses have released multiple statements basically saying, "To hell with this pandemic, let us get on with business, there's money to be made!"

    It's not a statement that has caused outbreaks in certain factories, or have I missed something?
    Btw Larry hasn't said it but it's obvious him and others have behaved in exactly the same manner you castigate RA for.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    seamus wrote: »
    I don't think Larry's businesses have released multiple statements basically saying, "To hell with this pandemic, let us get on with business, there's money to be made!"

    No he has just went ahead and let his meat factory's operate the way they do, not saying anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    tom1ie wrote: »
    What do the new restrictions mean for gyms?
    Or is there any effect on them as they are business?
    Was in one this morning ,Just no more than 6 people I think at anyone time ,

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/77b6d-statement-on-the-introduction-of-new-measures-to-limit-the-spread-of-covid-19/

    According to above

    - gyms/leisure centres/swimming pools/exercise and dance studios will remain open with strict distancing and other appropriate protective measures in place

    -limits of 6 apply to exercise and dance classes with appropriate physical distancing

    - limits of 15 apply to groups outside including training sessions (with exception of elite/professional sports and horseracing). There should be no mixing between groups

    Not exactly clear if it’s 6 in a gym at a time.. So if I’m working out in a gym that’s not that spaced out or large, what’s the difference if it’s a class or not ? I presume the 6 limit is for classes or gym.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They aren't holding back numbers for the announcements, it makes no sense. The difference yesterday between positive swabs and new case is about 150. If they had been added evenly between Sunday and Monday then we would have 150 cases Sunday and 140 Monday.

    If any one asked at a press conference yesterday 'Why the new restrictions sure there are only 31 new cases today?' They could easily just point out we had nearly 200 on Saturday and nearly 150 on both Sunday and Monday for a total of 500 cases in the previous 3 days.

    This suggestion they are holding back numbers to have a big number for when announcing restrictions is rubbish.
    They could have, but I gurantee you the big announcement of new measures was never going to be on a day when they announce 40 new cases.

    You can look at it a number of ways, but in my opinion the government are absolutely using the numbers to fit their announcements. You can say they aren't manipulating them, but it certainly looks like they're planning press conferences and announcements around times when they know a backlog will be cleared.

    Its not even remotely outrageous enough to be thrown in as a conspiracy theory


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    Drumpot wrote: »
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/77b6d-statement-on-the-introduction-of-new-measures-to-limit-the-spread-of-covid-19/

    According to above

    - gyms/leisure centres/swimming pools/exercise and dance studios will remain open with strict distancing and other appropriate protective measures in place

    -limits of 6 apply to exercise and dance classes with appropriate physical distancing

    - limits of 15 apply to groups outside including training sessions (with exception of elite/professional sports and horseracing). There should be no mixing between groups

    Not exactly clear if it’s 6 in a gym at a time.. So if I’m working out in a gym that’s not that spaced out or large, what’s the difference if it’s a class or not ? I presume the 6 limit is for classes or gym.

    Are you working out with a mask on? I take a bottle of cillit bang to the park every morning to disinfect the yellow ski simulator . I keep my mask on when I’m working out. working on tightening my butt atm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Tandey


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    We need more regulations. The nice West African security guard at Spar isn’t so nice to me anymore as I have personally tried to motivate him to tighten the ship.

    Not surprised really. Nobody likes a busybody.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,223 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I disagree with you.

    Of course some people have 'flaunted' some of the advice at times. But I cant see that being a big factor. In any case you need to let people have some social outlet.

    If someone told me you could either go along with not going out or anywhere not meeting people concerts and all the rest of it for another couple of years or else you get the virus tomorrow I'd say I might take my chances with the virus.

    I don't know how you can disagree with me to be honest.

    People have picked up the virus through negligence, flaunting restrictions or simply just not giving a shyte. This is a fact. You state this yourself. It's irrelevant if it's a small amount of people or a large amount of people, the fact is it has happened, is happening and will continue to happen. Whether you like it or not that often comes down to personal choice, responsibility and behaviour.

    You can't blame the authorities if you've been told not to do something for clear reasons countless times and then go ahead and do it and it results in the outcome that you were warned about. There's lot of regular ordinary social things that I don't do anymore. I don't know, maybe I'm a Saint, but it is possible to make sacrifices and behave with a certain degree of responsibility. According to a proportion of people that seems to be absolutely impossible.

    And why the exaggeration when attempting to refute what I'm saying? You can go out, you can meet people, it hasn't been going on for years. These are all emotive, but inaccurate statements, which seem to give a sort of justification for certain behaviours, but, at the end of the day, aren't true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Queried


    Drumpot wrote: »
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/77b6d-statement-on-the-introduction-of-new-measures-to-limit-the-spread-of-covid-19/

    According to above

    - gyms/leisure centres/swimming pools/exercise and dance studios will remain open with strict distancing and other appropriate protective measures in place

    -limits of 6 apply to exercise and dance classes with appropriate physical distancing

    - limits of 15 apply to groups outside including training sessions (with exception of elite/professional sports and horseracing). There should be no mixing between groups

    Not exactly clear if it’s 6 in a gym at a time.. So if I’m working out in a gym that’s not that spaced out or large, what’s the difference if it’s a class or not ? I presume the 6 limit is for classes or gym.

    Hi,

    The gym I'm a member of sent an email this morning saying that from now on classes will be limited to 5 participants and the instructor to adhere to the 6 person limit. However they also said that the rest of the gym will remain as it was (i.e. 50 people max in the building at one time).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Is Eamon Ryan still in the government?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    I disagree with you.

    Of course some people have 'flaunted' some of the advice at times. But I cant see that being a big factor. In any case you need to let people have some social outlet.

    If someone told me you could either go along with not going out or anywhere not meeting people concerts and all the rest of it for another couple of years or else you get the virus tomorrow I'd say I might take my chances with the virus.
    Arghus wrote: »
    I don't know how you can disagree with me to be honest.

    People have picked up the virus through negligence, flaunting restrictions or simply just not giving a shyte. This is a fact. You state this yourself. It's irrelevant if it's a small amount of people or a large amount of people, the fact is it has happened, is happening and will continue to happen. Whether you like it or not that often comes down to personal choice, responsibility and behaviour.

    You can't blame the authorities if you've been told not to do something for clear reasons countless times and then go ahead and do it and it results in the outcome that you were warned about. There's lot of regular ordinary social things that I don't do anymore. I don't know, maybe I'm a Saint, but it is possible to make sacrifices and behave with a certain degree of responsibility. According to a proportion of people that seems to be absolutely impossible.

    And why the exaggeration when attempting to refute what I'm saying? You can go out, you can meet people, it hasn't been going on for years. These are all emotive, but inaccurate statements, which seem to give a sort of justification for certain behaviours, but, at the end of the day, aren't true.

    Both of you should include flout instead of flaunt. Unless, I am **** at word meanings :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    What exactly does Leo want?

    It seems like he's pushing for an election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Renjit wrote: »
    Both of you should include flout instead of flaunt. Unless, I am **** at word meanings :D

    True. I'm not waving the rules provocatively around in front of you I guess. Not that I'd be flouting them either. Cant even blame the bloody spellchecker this time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    So are the over 70s not allowed to go on staycations? Or to restaurants?


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