How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

Mrsmum wrote: »

I'm just wondering how much authority schools have, if any, to do their own thing. For instance could a school eg a secondary one just decide to bring half the class in one week and half the next. Every lesson up on Power point presentation so those at home learn that way one week and live lesson the next week but at home or at school they are all getting the exact same lesson from the presentations pre prepared by the teacher. I say Power point only because I saw some great presentations on it before the holidays for History, Georg, Business Studies. Or are schools obliged to go all back full time ?

Due to local conditions there has always been a level of leeway built in to guidelines - mainly to a/c for numbers, staffing, resources, buildings etc. However this is usually in relation to minor issues which still keep to the overall ethos of any guidelines. Therefore there is no option in the current guidelines for a school to opt for a half in approach as it runs counter to a full return for all children. Every school primary and secondary are obliged to go back full time.

If I'm not wrong, the Dáil and Seanad aren't due back from their holidays until the 15th of September.

I foresee that a fine mess will be waiting for them by then.

Bright n Breezy wrote: »

Received an email today from my child's primary school advising me ill get another email next week, I think that is too late on the day toa dvise parents of the new regime that will be in place. Principal likes the sound of their own voice and I can imagine there will be an issue with my child wearing a mask - 6th class, I will do my best to protect my child and others that the government are failing to protect.

The current establishment has lost their grip on this, im surprised by Micheal Martin to think so little of our children's lives having lost a child himself.

As a school we can’t insist that children wear a mask - it’s not compulsory but we have decided that if a parent wants a child to wear a mask we will facilitate that.

Dognapper wrote:

Except the lad that goes to work in Tesco doesn’t do half as much moaning as a teacher , dead right out on ppe and go to work or get into the dole que

That Tesco worker isnt gonna be in a small room with 25 people in close proximity.

Did ya see people cueing outside Tesco waiting to be let in as they weren't allowing more than the safe amount into the building?

Schools are a completely different ball game.

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

This 100%. However I do feel that the government/department should have put together a proper framework for online which schools should have had to follow but also parents.

We can't have what occured previously where children, parents and teachers could pretty much opt in/out as they wanted to. There can't be a situation where a parent allows a child to not do anything when online is required and then expect a school to start again if the topic has been covered 'properly'.
Likewise if we are forced back online, teachers need to engage properly with teaching so that learning continues in a properly structured and uniform manner. This I suspect will be an issue because it has been left to local arrangements.

Bright n Breezy wrote: »

Received an email today from my child's primary school advising me ill get another email next week, I think that is too late on the day toa dvise parents of the new regime that will be in place. Principal likes the sound of their own voice and I can imagine there will be an issue with my child wearing a mask - 6th class, I will do my best to protect my child and others that the government are failing to protect.

The current establishment has lost their grip on this, im surprised by Micheal Martin to think so little of our children's lives having lost a child himself.

I understand how you feel, there is an awful narrative out there that if you express any kind of concern about children going back to school, you are in some way being a total pain. I have heard other people say, sure keep your child at home then if you feel that way. I wrote to the minister about this and her secretary wrote to me to say that parents can not pull their children out or risk being contacted by Tusla after 20 days. Even today on the parents whaaps group, some parents were jumping up and down for joy to see the back of their kids next week. I understand all this talk about kids need school and parents need to get back to work but sometimes i feel like going FU.K Education, there is a disease rampant and Im worried.

gabeeg wrote: »

Name some countries

Friends school closed in Australia this week because of communion parties.
Thats another old story that is being trotted out time after time, every school in the world is open. wait a few months and less see how true that is going to be.

Fergal29 wrote: »

Thanks for your reply and info. I presume schools will object to children mixing in other facilities on a daily basis too.

Sorry but what has your after school care got to do with the school? What exactly do you think schools are objecting to?

downthemiddle wrote: »

Sorry but what has your after school care got to do with the school? What exactly do you think schools are objecting to?

I won't be sendjng my child to after school for the foreseeable as I will be working from home. I presume teachers would not be keen on children mixing with other schools and pods in the afternoon and returning to school the next day. Teachers will have it tough enough!

Fergal29 wrote: »

I won't be sendjng my child to after school for the foreseeable as I will be working from home. I presume teachers would not be keen on children mixing with other schools and pods in the afternoon and returning to school the next day. Teachers will have it tough enough!

We simply don't have control over that, same as we can't control large birthday parties or after-school activities. It is what it is. I do know what you mean though and it further underlines how ridiculous the Covid precautions in schools are. I spent ages spacing out my table groups the other day while thinking "what's the point?".

Fergal29 wrote: »

I won't be sendjng my child to after school for the foreseeable as I will be working from home. I presume teachers would not be keen on children mixing with other schools and pods in the afternoon and returning to school the next day. Teachers will have it tough enough!

Teachers will not be interfering in the decisions you make for your children before or after school.

Fergal29 wrote: »

I won't be sendjng my child to after school for the foreseeable as I will be working from home. I presume teachers would not be keen on children mixing with other schools and pods in the afternoon and returning to school the next day. Teachers will have it tough enough!

Afterschool care does not come under our remit, a lot of the children will be going to afterschool care. A lot of the teachers kids will be in afterschool care, issue for all parents and a minefield but dont be worrying aobut that we are used to it.

Smacruairi wrote: »

I'm sure their marquees are doing a great job, particularly in yesterday's weather.

Wait until you see the weather tomorrow night into Thursday!!! I hope schools have their marquees well secured.

Bright n Breezy wrote: »

Received an email today from my child's primary school advising me ill get another email next week, I think that is too late on the day toa dvise parents of the new regime that will be in place. Principal likes the sound of their own voice and I can imagine there will be an issue with my child wearing a mask - 6th class, I will do my best to protect my child and others that the government are failing to protect.

The current establishment has lost their grip on this, im surprised by Micheal Martin to think so little of our children's lives having lost a child himself.

I had children wearing masks in March no problem, and will be sending my kids into school with 2 masks each day so they can change after lunch. I woud encourage children in older years to wear masks or visors if they wish.

downthemiddle wrote: »

Wait until you see the weather tomorrow night into Thursday!!! I hope schools have their marquees well secured.

Marquees , all weather clothing, waterproof interactive board and ICT , individual chairs/ tables bolted to the ground :eek: We are good to go