Tenet (Christopher Nolan) spoilers from post 475

MisterAnarchy · 16-08-2020 9:36pm

Just saw the ad that says this is out Aug 26th .
Seems a crazy idea to release a 200 million film in the current climate.
It should be put back till next summer.

ixoy · 16-08-2020 10:08pm

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Just saw the ad that says this is out Aug 26th .
Seems a crazy idea to release a 200 million film in the current climate.
It should be put back till next summer.

It's a calculated bet. There's been nothing new in the cinema for months now so they're reckoning on a pent-up demand, especially for somebody known for big screen spectacle. if they held off until next year, it might be more likely to get lost amongst all the other films since there's a big backlog now.
It's also opening in territories that they deemed looking safe enough so it's not getting a wide US distribution.

I imagine a lot of other studios will be looking to see how it performs (and I assume studios still have bills to pay so they can't keep waiting).

Giruilla · 16-08-2020 10:21pm

Was looking forward to this but then remembered last three nolan films.. severely bored by dark knight rises and dunkirk, and completely underwhelmed and disappointed by interstellar. Inception and dark knight both 10/10 flicks though. Really hope tenet will be a return to form

Giruilla · 16-08-2020 10:23pm

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Just saw the ad that says this is out Aug 26th .
Seems a crazy idea to release a 200 million film in the current climate.
It should be put back till next summer.

Could potentially be the last chance they have at making a cinema release!! Cinemas might not be around this time next year

pixelburp · 17-08-2020 8:35am

I'd be fascinated to see the revised projections Warners have for this; it was a big gamble before most major markets started experiencing a surge of infections (well there's a sentence 2019 me could never have predicted), now it seems more so. Though I've not read nor seen any news of cinemas being closed again, while the new lockdowns have been regional rather than national. I don't get a sense chains are considered high risk in comparison with (say) the various meat packing companies at the centre of outbreaks.

17-08-2020 9:32am

Sounds positive ->

Couple of impressions from a press screening

Absolutely no spoilers btw

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2020/8/9j7re4a3q83tj38crh0tfoa0spj7dk?format=amp

In the mould of his core original stuff but less obtuse, more concise and the actors have the scope to act.

Like the sound of it.

MisterAnarchy · 17-08-2020 10:22am

glasso wrote: »

Sounds positive ->

Couple of impressions from a press screening

Absolutely no spoilers btw

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2020/8/9j7re4a3q83tj38crh0tfoa0spj7dk?format=amp

In the mould of his core original stuff but less obtuse, more concise and the actors have the scope to act.

Like the sound of it.

Yes it does sound very positive.

That first review whilst not having direct spoilers definitely alludes to a few things that are spoilers in an indirect sort of way.

17-08-2020 10:27am

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Yes it does sound very positive.

That first review whilst not having direct spoilers definitely alludes to a few things that are spoilers in an indirect sort of way.

If you've watched the trailer you would already know more than anything alluded to there tbh

MisterAnarchy · 17-08-2020 10:35am

glasso wrote: »

If you've watched the trailer you would already know more than anything alluded to there tbh

I've seen the trailers and that first review has got my brain thinking stuff but that might just be me .

TheIrishGrover · 17-08-2020 1:06pm

I am really looking forward to this. I remember seeing the IMAX teaser....... Before the last Star Wars movie!!!! I am studiously avoiding spoilers for this. Not even looking at the barest reviews. Especially as many critics were a bit sniffy about Interstellar which I loved (Except Anne Hathaway and Jessica Chastain's parts should have been reversed)

Looking forward to going to the imax and having a glass of wine watching this

Yeah,I would imagine that if it was successful, that they will re-release this in the cinema next summer. Big "See it on the biggest screen you can find" type campaign. Certainly won't be released online/home until after that. Say, this time next year.

MisterAnarchy · 17-08-2020 1:23pm

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Looking forward to going to the imax and having a glass of wine watching this

There's still no proper Imax in Ireland ?

Falthyron · 17-08-2020 3:14pm

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

There's still no proper Imax in Ireland ?

From my understanding, we have the projectors but we don't have screens/walls big enough to display the full resolution.

TheIrishGrover · 17-08-2020 3:53pm

OK, Jesus, I'm looking forward to seeing it on the big screen.

stesaurus · 17-08-2020 4:53pm

I've booked an early afternoon showing for the 28th. Hopefully its not very busy and we can watch it without feeling anxious

Basq · 20-08-2020 2:31am

OK, afternoon showing on 28th booked.

Back row centre with no seats allowed to left of me and only two seats allowed to book on far right on row.

Cinemas still showing signs of being severely impacted as no other seats in my screen booked at all (and very little others seats booked for MAXX screening that day).

gazzer · 20-08-2020 10:40am

Booked in for Cineworld on Sat 29th. I have a yearly pass and they sent me an email with a code for an additional free ticket for Tenet so happy days.

TheIrishGrover · 20-08-2020 3:28pm

Booked Blanch on Sat 29th..... As I said before, I can't believe it but it was at the last Star Wars movie that showed that short Prologue for this..... and the Stars Movie is now on Disney+ Jeez, Covid, huh?

The White Wolf · 21-08-2020 5:34pm

Booked in for 5pm on Thursday so I'll be clocking out of work at 3.30, hopefully the cinemas will still actually be open. :P

Basq · 21-08-2020 6:15pm

Entertainment.ie and The Guardian both gave it a

pretty damn scathing review! 2.5/5 for EI and 2/5 for The Guardian.

This does not bode well!

Ipso · 21-08-2020 6:33pm

88% on rotten tmaters. The word spectacle is mentioned quite a bit.

The White Wolf · 21-08-2020 6:36pm

Basq wrote: »

Entertainment.ie and The Guardian both gave it a
pretty damn scathing review! 2.5/5 for EI and 2/5 for The Guardian.

This does not bode well!

Interesting that these reviews claim the actors are stifled as I've read the opposite elsewhere. It's hard to take any critic review seriously these days to be honest.

cdgalwegian · 21-08-2020 6:41pm

Indiewire pretty scathing: "Humorless Disappointment".

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/08/tenet-review-1234581454/

cmac2009 · 21-08-2020 6:41pm

Basq wrote: »

Entertainment.ie and The Guardian both gave it a
pretty damn scathing review! 2.5/5 for EI and 2/5 for The Guardian.

This does not bode well!

I'm not surprised by the poor review in The Guardian, The Irish Times gave it 3/5 and Times UK 5/5. All a game of opinions. Haven't read any reviews so far and will try to avoid any more until after I've seen it, always finds it taints my opinion somewhat.

The White Wolf · 21-08-2020 6:54pm

cdgalwegian wrote: »

Indiewire pretty scathing: "Humorless Disappointment".

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/08/tenet-review-1234581454/

Can't take them seriously after their Joker review; the ultimate fence sitting, afraid to commit but still needs to get its digs in, waffle piece.

And there's my cue to unfollow this thread. :P

What's striking about these 3 reviews is that they don't even bother with protecting the plot from spoiling. Art has been truly lost.

MisterAnarchy · 21-08-2020 9:45pm

cdgalwegian wrote: »

Indiewire pretty scathing: "Humorless Disappointment".

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/08/tenet-review-1234581454/

Humourless ?
Did this chap think it was a comedy ?

I'm glad it's "humourless" as there aren't enough serious films being made nowadays.

MfMan · 21-08-2020 10:41pm

In fairness, Donald Clarke in the IT tries to avoid revealing plot details, but his review is really damning with faint praise.
Told you it would be a dud, with presumably Inception-levels of silliness and confusion.

bnt · 22-08-2020 8:22am

The Guardian reviewer talks about how her review is "heretical", which tells me straight away that she went in to the screening room with an agenda. Ditto for the IndieWire, who calls it "messianic cinema". They're reviewing the hype, not the movie. "It's my job to burst bubbles, right?"

pixelburp · 22-08-2020 9:06am

Well, this thread has turned into the inevitable review of the reviews, so I'll back out til people have actually seen the thing and it's not a tedious dogpile session.

Sad Professor · 22-08-2020 9:37am

As I said earlier in the thread, Nolan is due a critical bashing and it looks he's getting it from some critics on this one. I think he's avoided it to date mainly because each new film until now has represented new territory for him. A different genre, etc. Tenet however is very familiar looking. The pandemic doesn't help. For some of the reviewers this might have been one of the few times they have been in a public place since March.

flasher0030 · 22-08-2020 9:48am

MfMan wrote: »

In fairness, Donald Clarke in the IT tries to avoid revealing plot details, but his review is really damning with faint praise.
Told you it would be a dud, with presumably Inception-levels of silliness and confusion.

Eh?? You haven't even seen the film yet, and you're gloating that it's no good.
Actually, the film hasn't even been released yet!!! Get down off that high horse of yours.

You're basing your gloating on a couple of critics who may want to just go against the grain for them to have their little voices heard. If you want to devout your opinion based on what other people think, why not take this on board.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tenet-review-a-delightfully-convoluted-masterpiece-lsqx2gp7l

If it's 80% as good as Inception, that's me a happy puppy. Inception is a great movie, with excellent soundtrack.

MfMan · 22-08-2020 10:36am

flasher0030 wrote: »

Eh?? You haven't even seen the film yet, and you're gloating that it's no good.
Actually, the film hasn't even been released yet!!! Get down off that high horse of yours.

You're basing your gloating on a couple of critics who may want to just go against the grain for them to have their little voices heard. If you want to devout your opinion based on what other people think, why not take this on board.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tenet-review-a-delightfully-convoluted-masterpiece-lsqx2gp7l

If it's 80% as good as Inception, that's me a happy puppy. Inception is a great movie, with excellent soundtrack.

I have seen it. I've returned from the future to tell you.

The Nal · 22-08-2020 1:26pm

Think I was oe of the few who was bored senseless watching Inception. After about 5 minutes I remember thinking "oh they're doing the Star Trek Next Generation episode". The one with Moriarty. A holodeck within a holodeck.

Snake Plisken · 22-08-2020 2:01pm

This RTE hack didn't like it I will reserve judgement, only review I'll take seriously is Mark Kermode interested to hear what he thinks of it
https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/movie-reviews/2020/0821/1160527-tenet-150-minutes-of-your-time-youll-never-get-back/

Snake Plisken · 22-08-2020 2:08pm

Final trailer not a big fan of the song used, not sure why they used it give me Hans soundtrack instead of this autotuned crap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVgPK2QQgp0

corcaigh07 · 22-08-2020 2:59pm

From what I'm gathering from the reviews, it's Inception without Joseph Gordon Levitt explaining the plot at every turn. If that is the case, it'll be well worth going back to the cinema for this.

22-08-2020 3:13pm

reviews mixed but I'll go see it all the same.

MisterAnarchy · 22-08-2020 3:26pm

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Final trailer not a big fan of the song used, not sure why they used it give me Hans soundtrack instead of this autotuned crap

The choice of music in that trailer is really appalling.
Poor enough trailer,the earlier efforts were alot better.

dwayneshintzy · 22-08-2020 3:28pm

glasso wrote: »

reviews mixed but I'll go see it all the same.

Most reviews I've come across have been very positive. Rotten Tomatoes has it at 80% currently; https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tenet

alchemist33 · 22-08-2020 4:05pm

Booked for Thursday. As of last night, myself amd my wife will be joined by two other people in the cinema.

martingriff · 22-08-2020 4:12pm

The Nal wrote: »

Think I was oe of the few who was bored senseless watching Inception. After about 5 minutes I remember thinking "oh they're doing the Star Trek Next Generation episode". The one with Moriarty. A holodeck within a holodeck.

SPOILERS!!! Just about to watch that episode

Man with broke phone · 22-08-2020 4:24pm

Trailer looks and sounds like its going to be one of them modern movies where corporations branding will regularly be a plot point and men wil walk around in sharp suits in slow motion with watches all from the same brand.

Probably watch it on the telly one day when theres nothing else on.

22-08-2020 6:30pm

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Most reviews I've come across have been very positive. Rotten Tomatoes has it at 80% currently; https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tenet

rotten tomatoes not a great indication imo really

I find metacritic a better measure

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/tenet?ref=hp

71 there currently

corcaigh07 · 22-08-2020 9:59pm

glasso wrote: »

rotten tomatoes not a great indication imo really

I find metacritic a better measure

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/tenet?ref=hp

71 there currently

Good shout, Inception and Interstellar both a 74 on Metacritic. Going off that, Tenet is a decent movie indeed.

dwayneshintzy · 23-08-2020 5:09am

glasso wrote: »

rotten tomatoes not a great indication imo really

I find metacritic a better measure

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/tenet?ref=hp

71 there currently

Yeah but 71% on metacritic is still quite decent, especially for a sci-fi film. 13 positive reviews, 5 mixed reviews, 0 negative reviews they've aggregated for it.

cdgalwegian · 23-08-2020 8:20am

I'm glad of the (inevitable) negative critic input. I find it tempers my expectations to a highly anticipated film, which this certainly is for me.
Whatever about the timey-wimey cause/effect head-scratching I expect, I will also still expect classy visuals alongside it, and putting it all together again in my head afterwards i.e. classic Nolan. It's looking good for social-distancing in the cinemas, so despite its tent-poler status, getting a ticket for this looks increasing likely.

23-08-2020 10:34am

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Yeah but 71% on metacritic is still quite decent, especially for a sci-fi film. 13 positive reviews, 5 mixed reviews, 0 negative reviews they've aggregated for it.

Yes it's still a decent score, just about.

Not sure how 40 is not counted as a negative score though.

johnny_ultimate · 23-08-2020 10:44am

glasso wrote: »

Not sure how 40 is not counted as a negative score though.

I read about this before IIRC. Metacritic weights reviews for different mediums differently. Video game reviews tend to be favourable (because sadly video game criticism is still quite immature and biased towards big releases) so anything below say 70 is considered mediocre... hell, even outright bad in popular opinion.

Whereas since any given film is far more likely to see a fuller range of review scores (because it’s a healthy critical space), they’re more liberal with what is counted as a ‘positive’ review. So basically where a two star review in film criticism is counted as ‘alright / mediocre’, in video games it would be considered a war crime. I’m not even exaggerating here :pac: It’s a strange quirk to be sure, but basically it just reflects the broader range of views that is likely to determine whether a film is deemed a critical success of failure.

flasher0030 · 23-08-2020 11:19am

MfMan wrote: »

I have seen it. I've returned from the future to tell you.

Sorry, I didn't realise I was dealing with a teen.
You haven't seen the film.

Agent Coulson · 23-08-2020 11:25am

150 minutes of your life you will never get back is the headline review on the RTE website.

I m not reading any reviews myself other than if I catch a headline.

That headline does stand out that it will either be a love it or hate it film.

BagheeraBlue · 23-08-2020 11:33am

memento, the prestige and tdk are masterpieces everything else he's done is meh

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