Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

John O.Groats · 16-08-2020 03:24PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

What do you suggest we do send in the boys, lock them in a confined space with others,.... disturbing behavior from police in Australia for a citizen caught not wearing a mask. We have to stop this constant condemnation of others before there's blood on the streets. Go live you life, avoid people and places you feel are a threat to your existence, leave the youth alone, there not getting these years back.

https://twitter.com/AussieVal10/status/1292849687758659594?s=20

Whatever is necessary in the current circumstances needs to be done for the greater good. Extraordinary times require extraordinary measures.

SeaBreezes · 16-08-2020 03:24PM

completedit wrote: »

How is it anymore selfish than the other side? The side who believe that we need to do everything and anything so long as people don't die from Covid. **** anything else but by god, we don't want people dying from Covid. What about the livelihoods are destroyed? Do you understand the implications of unemployment? Do you understand that young people are more likely to be unemployed? Do you know what is coming around the corner because of this collective hysteria that will now derail prospects for millions worldwide over the next decade? Honestly, this absolute bull**** narrative being spun that people that are against the restrictions don't give a ****.

18 months from now, we'll see where we are. That's all I'll say. It's not going to be pretty.

Do you think there are sides?
Do you think ANY government CHOOSES this?
Do you honestly believe that governments GLOBALLY are taking lockdown actions because of hysteria? All over the world?

Brazil, Sweden and the US choose not to lockdown, and along with the ridiculous death count, their economy is just as bad, if not worse than countries who locked down.

There are no good options just varying degrees of bad.

I agree with you the crap shoot that’s coming is going to be awful.
But it’s not because of lockdowns, it’s because of a virus.

Either way economies will suffer, but I’d prefer the path with least deaths.

spookwoman · 16-08-2020 03:24PM

https://twitter.com/RoisinTheGinger/status/1294774166206525443?s=20

is_that_so · 16-08-2020 03:24PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Whatever is necessary in the current circumstances needs to be done for the greater good. Extraordinary times require extraordinary measures.

I feel all Godwin here ....

Jim_Hodge · 16-08-2020 03:26PM

niallo27 wrote: »

So you think an 18 year old has the same level of maturity as someone in their 40s.

Of course they don't. And a 40 year old doesn't have the level of maturity of a 60 year old.
They are old enough and mature enough though.

owlbethere · 16-08-2020 03:27PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

What do you suggest we do send in the boys, lock them in a confined space with others,.... disturbing behavior from police in Australia for a citizen caught not wearing a mask. We have to stop this constant condemnation of others before there's blood on the streets. Go live you life, avoid people and places you feel are a threat to your existence, leave the youth alone, there not getting these years back.

https://twitter.com/AussieVal10/status/1292849687758659594?s=20

We are about 8 months into the year, and we have been dealing with this covid spreading from China since February. We have public health guidelines on social distancing, avoiding crowds, isolate if you feel unwell, etc since then. The Oxford Vaccine is right around the corner. You'd swear with the way you are writing, they have been asked to isolate themselves for the next 50 years. Things will start getting back to normal next year after a vaccine. Get a grip with your poor little young ones. There's a civil duty on all of us to maintain social distancing and keep our close contacts low. The bar scenes from last night were disgraceful.

GooglePlus · 16-08-2020 03:31PM

Rumours of a jive contest in Castleblaney over the weekend but no mention of that on Twitter. Up to 100 men and women courting eachother.

spookwoman · 16-08-2020 03:35PM

owlbethere wrote: »

We are about 8 months into the year, and we have been dealing with this covid spreading from China since February. We have public health guidelines on social distancing, avoiding crowds, isolate if you feel unwell, etc since then. The Oxford Vaccine is right around the corner. You'd swear with the way you are writing, they have been asked to isolate themselves for the next 50 years. Things will start getting back to normal next year after a vaccine. Get a grip with your poor little young ones. There's a civil duty on all of us to maintain social distancing and keep our close contacts low. The bar scenes from last night were disgraceful.

Shows a major difference in how society has changed over the years.
When world war 2 broke out many young people joined up and went off to fight and die for freedom, they believed it was their civic duty. In England families sent their children off to the countryside to keep them safe while the adults stayed and knowing they were going to be bombed.
Today it's a different battle and all we hear is when can I get my hair done or go to the pub or have a party.

igCorcaigh · 16-08-2020 03:39PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Rumours of a jive contest in Castleblaney

Sorry, I had to laugh, I did.

ACitizenErased · 16-08-2020 03:39PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Shows a major difference in how society has changed over the years.
When world war 2 broke out many young people joined up and went off to fight and die for freedom, they believed it was their civic duty. In England families sent their children off to the countryside to keep them safe while the adults stayed and knowing they were going to be bombed.
Today it's a different battle and all we hear is when can I get my hair done or go to the pub or have a party.

You are incredibly out of touch with young people. What a ridiculous comment.

spookwoman · 16-08-2020 03:41PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You are incredibly out of touch with young people. What a ridiculous comment.

It's a general comment about society and how it has changed :rolleyes:

ACitizenErased · 16-08-2020 03:41PM

spookwoman wrote: »

It's a general comment about society and how it has changed :rolleyes:

And it’s completely out of touch. There’s way more to young people than drinking and getting hair done ffs.

Piehead · 16-08-2020 03:43PM

We now need to go early and go hard like the Kiwis before this gets out of control.

spookwoman · 16-08-2020 03:43PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

And it’s completely out of touch. There’s way more to young people than drinking and getting hair done ffs.

I mentioned young people and I mentioned adults, no where in that post did i say it was only young people who think about the pubs, hair and parties.

ACitizenErased · 16-08-2020 03:44PM

spookwoman wrote: »

I mentioned young people and I mentioned adults, no where in that post did i say it was only young people who think about the pubs hair and parties.

You compared young people in World War 2 versus now. The post has been made, you can’t backtrack.

spookwoman · 16-08-2020 03:45PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You compared young people in World War 2 versus now. The post has been made, you can’t backtrack.

Give over and stop trying to pick a fight.

ACitizenErased · 16-08-2020 03:45PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Give over and stop trying to pick a fight.

Give me a break. Same old.

drunkmonkey · 16-08-2020 03:46PM

owlbethere wrote: »

We are about 8 months into the year, and we have been dealing with this covid spreading from China since February. We have public health guidelines on social distancing, avoiding crowds, isolate if you feel unwell, etc since then. The Oxford Vaccine is right around the corner. You'd swear with the way you are writing, they have been asked to isolate themselves for the next 50 years. Things will start getting back to normal next year after a vaccine. Get a grip with your poor little young ones. There's a civil duty on all of us to maintain social distancing and keep our close contacts low. The bar scenes from last night were disgraceful.

We can't even get out health care workers to take the flu vaccine, what hope have we of getting them all to take this new vaccine, not mention the other 3 billion people.
Are the guards really going to be going door to door holding us down while someone injects us.
I prefer the global travel ban route, can be started tomorrow with brave leadership, it'll eliminate the virus as opposed to the vaccine which may give you a 50% chance of not getting it. We'll need booster shots, yearly or maybe twice yearly vaccines as it mutates, maybe it's just me but I'm not seeing the vaccine as a way to cure this next year. We need to look at alternatives, all eggs in the one basket by the looks of it at the moment.

GeorgeBailey · 16-08-2020 03:48PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Shows a major difference in how society has changed over the years.
When world war 2 broke out many young people joined up and went off to fight and die for freedom, they believed it was their civic duty. In England families sent their children off to the countryside to keep them safe while the adults stayed and knowing they were going to be bombed.
Today it's a different battle and all we hear is when can I get my hair done or go to the pub or have a party.

We've come full circle to comparing the reaction of young people to a pandemic to the reaction of young people to a war. Two completely different things. Have a read of Pale Rider. It's a book about the 1918 Flu pandemic. Incredibly similar reactions then and now.

Wolf359f · 16-08-2020 03:49PM

Sparko wrote: »

Just a quick update, I mentioned a few days ago that I had a relative who was determined to be a close contact of a positive case.

The positive case was confirmed on Thursday, contact tracers were given details on Friday, my relative was contacted this morning and is waiting on a test date now. He has isolated since hearing of the positive case.

His partner is also a close contact of the confirmed positive case. She asked her GP for a test immediately as she had cold like symptoms. Tested on Friday, negative result today thankfully. She was contacted by tracers on Saturday but she'd already had the test at that stage, and the tracers told her she could go back to work on Monday if she tested negative. Her GP also stated this. But the message she got with her test results said continue isolating until next weekend.

The HSE website says close contacts with negative results should continue to isolate and receive a second test, but the GP and tracers seem to have contradicted this in this case. This inconsistency in message is worrying to me.

I'm just wondering when where they in contact with the confirmed case? If they were in contact with the confirmed case a week before they were tested, wouldn't that be considered a day 7 test?

I'd assume the txt message is just a generic template and it would be the contact tracers who would know when they potentially could have been exposed and when they were tested and would be able to risk assess it.

is_that_so · 16-08-2020 03:50PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Give over and stop trying to pick a fight.

It's one you look like you're losing I'm afraid, with a writeoff of an entire age cohort. Once we were in that age group and subject to the same judgemental cant from an earlier generation.

CalamariFritti · 16-08-2020 03:51PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Do you think there are sides?
Do you think ANY government CHOOSES this?
Do you honestly believe that governments GLOBALLY are taking lockdown actions because of hysteria? All over the world?

Brazil, Sweden and the US choose not to lockdown, and along with the ridiculous death count, their economy is just as bad, if not worse than countries who locked down.

There are no good options just varying degrees of bad.

I agree with you the crap shoot that’s coming is going to be awful.
But it’s not because of lockdowns, it’s because of a virus.

Either way economies will suffer, but I’d prefer the path with least deaths.

Go away with your Sweden nonsense.

Oranage2 · 16-08-2020 03:52PM

Piehead wrote: »

We now need to go early and go hard like the Kiwis before this gets out of control.

Worked for China (including Taiwan) Vietnam (until recently), New Zealand and others.

We don't have strong leaders to make the right call and we don't have the self discipline to follow the rules completely

Onesea · 16-08-2020 03:54PM

Has Italy made any announcements regarding death toll from c19?

irishgeo · 16-08-2020 03:55PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

We can't even get out health care workers to take the flu vaccine, what hope have we of getting them all to take this new vaccine, not mention the other 3 billion people.
Are the guards really going to be going door to door holding us down while someone injects us.
I prefer the global travel ban route, can be started tomorrow with brave leadership, it'll eliminate the virus as opposed to the vaccine which may give you a 50% chance of not getting it. We'll need booster shots, yearly or maybe twice yearly vaccines as it mutates, maybe it's just me but I'm not seeing the vaccine as a way to cure this next year. We need to look at alternatives, all eggs in the one basket by the looks of it at the moment.

The Coronavirus don't mutate that quickly and usually in this line of the virus it mututes itself to a weaker virus.

GooglePlus · 16-08-2020 03:57PM

Damn kids with their hip hop.

We all know the previous generation who were slaves to the catholic church were the best, no contest.

Renjit · 16-08-2020 03:59PM

completedit wrote: »

How is it anymore selfish than the other side? The side who believe that we need to do everything and anything so long as people don't die from Covid. **** anything else but by god, we don't want people dying from Covid. What about the livelihoods are destroyed? Do you understand the implications of unemployment? Do you understand that young people are more likely to be unemployed? Do you know what is coming around the corner because of this collective hysteria that will now derail prospects for millions worldwide over the next decade? Honestly, this absolute bull**** narrative being spun that people that are against the restrictions don't give a ****.

18 months from now, we'll see where we are. That's all I'll say. It's not going to be pretty.

Do you understand it's one thing to do essential work but another to do things just for fun while flouting all rules because you are not getting these years back? How hard is it to understand? One is an essential risk and other is selfishness.

hotmail.com · 16-08-2020 04:00PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Shows a major difference in how society has changed over the years.
When world war 2 broke out many young people joined up and went off to fight and die for freedom, they believed it was their civic duty. In England families sent their children off to the countryside to keep them safe while the adults stayed and knowing they were going to be bombed.
Today it's a different battle and all we hear is when can I get my hair done or go to the pub or have a party.

Ireland stayed neutral during WW II. Are you referring to young people in England or here?

16-08-2020 04:02PM

spookwoman wrote: »

It's a general comment about society and how it has changed :rolleyes:

As to your equivalence to the English in the second world war and the reaction of the young it's a fale equivalence. A lot of parents brought their kids back to the cities when the expected bombing didn't occur straight away and look how that turned out. Also they had to introduce conscription straight away as they realised that plenty of people of military age would have fathers and uncles who served in the first word war and the trouble that they had keeping up the number of recruits during ww1 once it went past 1915 and people realised that it wasn't going to be over by Christmas and the number of volunteers fell off a cliff.

spookwoman · 16-08-2020 04:02PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Ireland stayed neutral during WW II. Are you referring to young people in England or here?

I am referring to society, all age groups and how things have changed in how people are willing to sacrifice.

Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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