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Leo States Sinn Fein Want Nothing To Do With Whites or Males

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Attacking white males is race baiting, verbal attack against a racial group.

    She wasn't. She was saying white middle class males like Ward can't understand what its like to be from a minority. She made a balls of it but she certainly wasn't attacking white males.
    Do you know what its like to be a black woman? She had a point just blew the delivery.

    Leo was trying to put a spin on it like a thick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Are you saying he'd had one or two shandys??!

    I'm saying its possible. Or maybe he's just a gilly 24/7.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Bowie wrote: »
    I believe his Netflix subscription expired. He's living by his wits ;)

    Well half of them anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Bowie wrote: »
    She wasn't. She was saying white middle class males like Ward can't understand what its like to be from a minority. She made a balls of it but she certainly wasn't attacking white males.
    Do you know what its like to be a black woman? She had a point just blew the delivery.

    Leo was trying to put a spin on it like a thick.

    Yeah i'd concede (and hope) it was clumsy delivery more than anything else but she could clarify that...but no one in irish political life ever apologises unless they are dragged over the coals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Bowie wrote: »
    She wasn't. She was saying white middle class males like Ward can't understand what its like to be from a minority. She made a balls of it but she certainly wasn't attacking white males.
    Do you know what its like to be a black woman? She had a point just blew the delivery.

    Leo was trying to put a spin on it like a thick.

    That’s very interesting. I have rewatched he original video and I accept that she probably wasn’t race baiting. It definitely borders closely to it though as with her botched approach could be misconstrued as saying that white males opinions don’t matter. But you are definitely correct that she was coming from the point of view of ethnic minorities and how they are effected and I accept that i was incorrect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    joeguevara wrote: »
    That’s very interesting. I have rewatched he original video and I accept that she probably wasn’t race baiting. It definitely borders closely to it though as with her botched approach could be misconstrued as saying that white males opinions don’t matter. But you are definitely correct that she was coming from the point of view of ethnic minorities and how they are effected and I accept that i was incorrect.

    She defo made a balls if it. All she had to say was these people are vulnerable or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Bowie wrote: »
    She defo made a balls if it. All she had to say was these people are vulnerable or something.

    If LV hadn’t said anything we would be discussing her making w boll1x of it, but all eyes on his fcuck up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Well done lads, we hammered out our arguments and came to a reasonable consensus. A rare sight these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Well done lads, we hammered out our arguments and came to a reasonable consensus. A rare sight these days.

    Hahah, fcuck the lot of ye. Someone must have hacked my account. Ah, no, it definitely should be the only way, if wrong I’m happy to accept it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    joeguevara wrote: »
    If LV hadn’t said anything we would be discussing her making w boll1x of it, but all eyes on his fcuck up.

    He went off on his own.
    Ward handled it, leo just looked the fool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Well done lads, we hammered out our arguments and came to a reasonable consensus. A rare sight these days.

    Excelsior!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Bowie wrote: »
    Excelsior!

    Fcuck you Bowie, I’m off to shine up my fashion shoes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Fcuck you Bowie, I’m off to shine up my fashion shoes.

    Its like when homer is pals with flanders. It'll be back to normal next week ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Bowie wrote: »
    Its like when homer is pals with flanders. It'll be back to normal next week ;)

    Not at all, i don’t really take sides. The other SF thread is hard work though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,822 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Totally agree. She seems to be getting a pass though and everyone only discussing LV

    She's not getting any kind of pass. She made a clumsy comment and got backtalked for it. It should have ended there.

    However, Varadkar then leapt into the fray (even though there was no fray) and made a ridiculous and disingenuous comment that was worthy of bigger shame considering his previous attempts to bring "white privilege" into Irish politics on the back of his civil service remarks.

    The guy has always been a twat of the most unscrupulous kind. An overpaid shit stirrer that brings nothing to table.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Tony EH wrote: »
    She's not getting any kind of pass. She made a clumsy comment and got backtalked for it. It should have ended there.

    However, Varadkar then leapt into the fray (even though there was no fray) and made a ridiculous and disingenuous comment that was worthy of bigger shame considering his previous attempts to bring "white privilege" into Irish politics on the back of his civil service remarks.

    The guy has always been a twat of the most unscrupulous kind. An overpaid shit stirrer that brings nothing to table.

    This is it.He's a waster and encapsulates the privaleged d4 class to a T. I think he's done more harm than good and has hindered progress in nearly everything he's touched .Will FG just get rid and we can all move on? Coveney might actually get stuff done ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,129 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    splashuum wrote: »
    A tweet that has shocked many and will likely be spoke about in the dail.

    https://twitter.com/leovaradkar/status/1293663127809204233?s=21

    Its not shocking just pathetic

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,351 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Niggaz want that gutter shit, fuck that other shit, that "play it for your mother" shit ain't the rugged shit.
    Threadbanned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Rodin


    The Shinner?

    She got told.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    I still don't understand why FG supporters still look up to Leo even though he led them to their worst election results in decades, and then just to stay in some kind of power (he thinks he's too dog still) jumped into Govt with FF who he abused for weeks leading upto the election

    That's Ireland I suppose


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    I still don't understand why FG supporters still look up to Leo even though he led them to their worst election results in decades, and then just to stay in some kind of power (he thinks he's too dog still) jumped into Govt with FF who he abused for weeks leading upto the election

    That's Ireland I suppose

    The only thing I can think of it's like Trump and the GOP. The republican party members hitched their wagon to a racist crook and now they have to follow him off the cliff rather than concede to the democrats. It's more that they oppose the other side than like him, surpressing their own beliefs and values to support the head of the party.An Irish version of this;

    https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1026150926271143936?s=19


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Not at all, i don’t really take sides. The other SF thread is hard work though.

    I'm banned. Too handsome they said ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Bowie wrote: »
    She defo made a balls if it. All she had to say was these people are vulnerable or something.

    "these people"....THESE PEOPLE?!?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,511 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    This is so hilarious.

    BUT, I think that tweet was a genuine one. And I desperately hope it was.

    It's funny how when you're not PM anymore you talk some sense.


    edit: anyone see his outburst in the covid Dail, where he complained that the socialists were given too much speech time. I thought that was brilliant. Actually warmed to him for once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    The statement doesn't really stand up to scrutiny when measured against reality - most of the provos are white males..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Good to hear the truth. Am not on any SM for my sanity apart from here. But the Vlad is correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Leo's an opportunist, and I don't care.

    He might see the value in sticking to some of his campaign promises next time around unlike the FG leadership election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    ZeroThreat wrote: »
    The statement doesn't really stand up to scrutiny when measured against reality - most of the provos are white males..


    provos aren't the new SF anymore.


    the working class/ provo type of the past is sidelined now.
    in 10 years or when Adams kicks the bucket , republicanism will be dead in SF and they'll just be another trendy left party.
    Michelle o'Neill & mary Lou will see to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    paw patrol wrote: »
    provos aren't the new SF anymore.


    the working class/ provo type of the past is sidelined now.
    in 10 years or when Adams kicks the bucket , republicanism will be dead in SF and they'll just be another trendy left party.
    Michelle o'Neill & mary Lou will see to that.

    The Worker's Party.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    Danzy wrote: »
    The Worker's Party.

    That represents people who don’t want to work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    ZeroThreat wrote: »
    The statement doesn't really stand up to scrutiny when measured against reality - most of the provos are white males..

    In the world of Boylan the "proto Provos" were backward reactionaries and SF was only saved and made cool when people like draft dodgers such as herself and former members of FF, Labour, SDLP, Communist Party came along to save it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    In the world of Boylan the "proto Provos" were backward reactionaries and SF was only saved and made cool when people like draft dodgers such as herself and former members of FF, Labour, SDLP, Communist Party came along to save it :)

    This is it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Good to hear the truth. Am not on any SM for my sanity apart from here. But the Vlad is correct.

    When did Russia get involved?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,873 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    FG wants nothing to do with young people who don't own their own homes. I'd rather take my chances with a party that doesn't tell young people desperate for housing to go f*ck themselves at every single opportunity.

    Rip off housing costs, while he doles out free houding for others.... that dont work... a marginal tax rate of over fifty percent over a pittance! He seemingly has more in common with the alphabet parties and paul murphy, than representing those paying for everything! The country could do with saint patrick again for a few days ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,168 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Yes, considering Africans make up such a tiny % of people in Ireland. I’ve never seen Polish gangs terrorising people, or Spanish or German.

    Did you only join boards yesterday?

    I remember the days when after hours would have a daily session on spanish student gangs, hanging around. taking up paths, being rude and ignorant on public transport etc etc.

    Gas that those same threads were started and cheer-led be the very same imbeciles giving out in here. Like a broken record, must have a really sorry sad existence if your only option is popping on to the internet daily giving out about other people, and id put money down complaining about things that youve never seen, never experienced and only read about on a crap website like dub live or the likes . Click bait central.


    It doesnt matter what it is or who it is. its ALWAYS someone elses fault............................................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    ^^^^ youre really trying to paint annoying Spanish students blocking the footpaths as "gangs"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,168 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ^^^^ youre really trying to paint annoying Spanish students blocking the footpaths as "gangs"?

    You missed the point of the hyperbole that the exact same posters deploy.


    Its not me painting anyone as gangs.


    :rolleyes:


    Othering and projection, common amongst plebs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    listermint wrote: »
    Did you only join boards yesterday?

    I remember the days when after hours would have a daily session on spanish student gangs, hanging around. taking up paths, being rude and ignorant on public transport etc etc.

    Gas that those same threads were started and cheer-led be the very same imbeciles giving out in here. Like a broken record, must have a really sorry sad existence if your only option is popping on to the internet daily giving out about other people, and id put money down complaining about things that youve never seen, never experienced and only read about on a crap website like dub live or the likes . Click bait central.


    It doesnt matter what it is or who it is. its ALWAYS someone elses fault............................................

    Unfortunately I live in North Co Dublin, of course I've seen them in action. One of the 2 kids stabbed in Rush is a good friends nephew.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    ^^^^ youre really trying to paint annoying Spanish students blocking the footpaths as "gangs"?

    That's the cognitive dissonance these people actually have.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    That represents people who don’t want to work.

    The Civil Service? Like the labour party of yore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    I hate all this American BS coming into Irish politics, we are not white we are Irish. I blame twitter and its weird echo chambers that make people think like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    I hate all this American BS coming into Irish politics, we are not white we are Irish. I blame twitter and its weird echo chambers that make people think like this.

    Everyone is Irish? Ok.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    I hate all this American BS coming into Irish politics, we are not white we are Irish. I blame twitter and its weird echo chambers that make people think like this.

    I remember telling a rabid leftist poster on here 2 years or so ago not bother using the term "white male", as it's importing American problems that we don't need. He was the only poster at the time using the term, now it's incredibly widespread, with even our own political class using said term. We're most definitely in the process of ideological acceleration.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Unfortunately I live in North Co Dublin, of course I've seen them in action. One of the 2 kids stabbed in Rush is a good friends nephew.

    I was stabbed 5 years ago, guess what they were a group of Irish scumbags after my phone.

    When I talk about it, I say I was stabbed don't say I was stabbed by white Irish lads

    Now enough with the racism on this thread. It's a ****ing disgrace some of the posts.

    I'm friends with loads people, white, Spanish, African and you know what each race has their sections of scumbags


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    markodaly wrote: »
    Says you.... but all recent pollings suggests he is the most popular politican in the country.

    Toxic to the general Irish person he ain't, but he sure does seem to rub the SF Twitterati up the wrong way! :pac:

    Leo at 76%
    Mary Lou at 49%

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/poll

    You do know that polls aren't reliable, they will only call once if they don't get the answer they want, will call every other week if you have the views they want to push


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    I was stabbed 5 years ago, guess what they were a group of Irish scumbags after my phone.

    When I talk about it, I say I was stabbed don't say I was stabbed by white Irish lads

    Now enough with the racism on this thread. It's a ****ing disgrace some of the posts.

    I'm friends with loads people, white, Spanish, African and you know what each race has their sections of scumbags

    Just so you know I pressed 'like' on this post not because you were stabbed but for the message in it. Hope you are ok. Being stabbed is one of the most awful things that can happen to a person.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Just so you know I pressed 'like' on this post not because you were stabbed but for the message in it. Hope you are ok. Being stabbed is one of the most awful things that can happen to a person.

    Ah it just required stitches thankfully.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    I was stabbed 5 years ago, guess what they were a group of Irish scumbags after my phone.

    When I talk about it, I say I was stabbed don't say I was stabbed by white Irish lads

    Now enough with the racism on this thread. It's a ****ing disgrace some of the posts.

    I'm friends with loads people, white, Spanish, African and you know what each race has their sections of scumbags

    Facts don't have a race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭utyh2ikcq9z76b


    I was stabbed 5 years ago, guess what they were a group of Irish scumbags after my phone.

    When I talk about it, I say I was stabbed don't say I was stabbed by white Irish lads

    Now enough with the racism on this thread. It's a ****ing disgrace some of the posts.

    I'm friends with loads people, white, Spanish, African and you know what each race has their sections of scumbags

    if 5 black lads stabbed you surely you would at least tell the Garda they were black. It's hardly racism to factually describe an event


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Imagine getting this upset when someone doesn't worship blacks as much as you do...

    Are you talking about Leo standing up for whitey or Leo saying the civil service was 'very white'? Do you think he followed that up with, '..as it should be.'?

    Seems he'll use anything to make a fool of himself.


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