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Leo States Sinn Fein Want Nothing To Do With Whites or Males

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,290 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    The SF TD local to me has finally decided to get off her arse and do something about the African gangs in the area after they burnt out two houses in Balbriggan over the weekend. Except she hasn't, she just called them youth gangs and blamed the "antisocial" behaviour (2 houses burnt out) on frustration at not having anything to do, due to Covid-19. They are clowns.

    “Initial inspections identified it as an electrical fire, amplified when an oil tank in the back garden also caught fire. However, this has been portrayed on social media as a deliberate arson attack as a result of racially motivated gang violence.”
    https://www.buzz.ie/news/local-volunteer-group-release-statement-after-balbriggan-house-fire-383020

    Oh dear...not marauding gangs of black young lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Leave white men and their fashion shoes alone.

    Fair play to Barry Ward. His rebuttal of the SF senators comment was excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    splashuum wrote:
    A tweet that has shocked many and will likely be spoke about in the dail.


    Oh dear Leo, and you d be wondering why so many are abandoning traditional established parties such as fg for sf!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The same bollox that said the civil service was "too white" weeks ago a complete and utter buffon

    I'll tell you another thing if Sinn Féin are going down the "you have white privilege" road they can kiss their arses goodbye too, most SF voters I know wouldn't be of the woke, hand wringing types either

    There is a massive divide between the activist left and the working class.

    The holy righteous types are increasing their stranglehold on left wing politics across the west.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Oh dear Leo, and you d be wondering why so many are abandoning traditional established parties such as fg for sf!

    It was the SF Senator talking rubbish that is the issue. Id see more of questioning of SF supporters on this one rather than FG supporters. She basiscally stated that white males have no clue what is really happening in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,972 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    When was that?

    Magdalene laundries.

    Never heard of them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Anyone who imports this American Identity Politics race baiting into Irish public life should be shot with balls of their own sh1te.

    It's toxic, divisive and will quickly get away from you and end up in a very ugly place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,187 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Niggaz want that gutter shit, fuck that other shit, that "play it for your mother" shit ain't the rugged shit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    joeguevara wrote:
    It was the SF Senator talking rubbish that is the issue. Id see more of questioning of SF supporters on this one rather than FG supporters. She basiscally stated that white males have no clue what is really happening in the world.


    There's an element of truth to that statement, some white western males have in fact caused some serious damage on this planet, there's an element of arrogance in our more established parties in the western world, they're currently getting their come uppings


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    spurious wrote: »
    “Initial inspections identified it as an electrical fire, amplified when an oil tank in the back garden also caught fire. However, this has been portrayed on social media as a deliberate arson attack as a result of racially motivated gang violence.”
    https://www.buzz.ie/news/local-volunteer-group-release-statement-after-balbriggan-house-fire-383020

    Oh dear...not marauding gangs of black young lads.



    Fingal against Racism! You could set your clock against them judging by their previous statements :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Anyone who imports this American Identity Politics race baiting into Irish public life should be shot with balls of their own sh1te.

    It's toxic, divisive and will quickly get away from you and end up in a very ugly place.

    Emma dabiri, Ebun Joseph, Gemma ODoherty, louise Oneill, Una Mullally are the biggest, loudest voices in trying to import this kind of divisiveness to the irish public. Now SF are in on the racket too.

    It has no place in Ireland, we’re a predominantly white country where the opinions of white men and women still matter and we’re staying that way. White irish people have no privilege, guilt or anything to apologise for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Leave white men and their fashion shoes alone.

    Fair play to Barry Ward. His rebuttal of the SF senators comment was excellent.
    joeguevara wrote: »
    It was the SF Senator talking rubbish that is the issue. Id see more of questioning of SF supporters on this one rather than FG supporters. She basiscally stated that white males have no clue what is really happening in the world.

    Yes and no, yeah Barry Ward basically put it to bed, his rebuttal was adequate, leo dug a hole for himself and then climbed into it with both his feet, there was no need for it.

    This tweet nails it tbh.


    https://twitter.com/shockproofbeats/status/1293690204314886146?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭MFPM


    spurious wrote: »
    “Initial inspections identified it as an electrical fire, amplified when an oil tank in the back garden also caught fire. However, this has been portrayed on social media as a deliberate arson attack as a result of racially motivated gang violence.”
    https://www.buzz.ie/news/local-volunteer-group-release-statement-after-balbriggan-house-fire-383020

    Oh dear...not marauding gangs of black young lads.

    Quite correct....racist clowns everywhere devastated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Fingal against Racism! You could set your clock against them judging by their previous statements :)

    Kero / diesel tanks don’t tend to catch fire, its clear theyre lying through their teeth to try deflect, which makes it obvious that deep down even they know it was the predominantly african gang.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Yes and no, yeah Barry Ward basically put it to bed, his rebuttal was adequate, leo dug a hole for himself and then climbed into it with both his feet, there was no need for it.

    This tweet nails it tbh.


    https://twitter.com/shockproofbeats/status/1293690204314886146?s=19

    Apologies, cant read tweets at work. Only reason i knew about Leos was I saw this thread last night. But I will read it later. The SF senator is equally to blame with her ridiculous comment in my opinion.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Kero / diesel tanks don’t tend to catch fire, its clear theyre lying through their teeth to try deflect, which makes it obvious that deep down even they know it was the predominantly african gang.

    Yes course it was


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭MFPM


    The SF TD local to me has finally decided to get off her arse and do something about the African gangs in the area after they burnt out two houses in Balbriggan over the weekend. Except she hasn't, she just called them youth gangs and blamed the "antisocial" behaviour (2 houses burnt out) on frustration at not having anything to do, due to Covid-19. They are clowns.
    the African gangs in the area after they burnt out two houses in Balbriggan over the weekend.

    Why are you lying?
    them youth gangs

    Are gangs of youth not 'youth gangs' - what exactly is your issue?
    "antisocial" behaviour (2 houses burnt out) on frustration at not having anything to do, due to Covid-19. They are clowns.

    Parking your lies about the house....are you suggesting that anti social behaviour is not linked to frustration and lack of facilities?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    There's an element of truth to that statement, some white western males have in fact caused some serious damage on this planet, there's an element of arrogance in our more established parties in the western world, they're currently getting their come uppings

    So a white male should shut up and have no say in how Ireland is run because some mystical unnamed creature did some bad in the past. Name them and do they have relevance here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,187 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Yes and no, yeah Barry Ward basically put it to bed, his rebuttal was adequate, leo dug a hole for himself and then climbed into it with both his feet, there was no need for it.

    This tweet nails it tbh...

    Well, as a card-carrying massive, crying, Tory dork I don't want SF either, so it would appear that we're all particularly well-adjusted and happy in our respective nappies. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I don't get Varadkar at all. Before he was taoiseach he was saying all of the right things, about welfare fraud, about workers etc. Then when he got into the big seat he became mad Liberal, insufferably so, bumping welfare at every opportunity, gender quotas and punishing the folks that get up early in the morning.

    Now he he isn't in the big seat again he's out giving it to Sinn Fein about how they hate middle class white males, of which they do btw. He's been doing nothing but going after white middle class males for the last 4 years.

    Either the NGO sector has an almost deep state like influence on the department of Taoiseach, or Leo is just a bit of a Sociopath that flips his personality at a moments notice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Kero / diesel tanks don’t tend to catch fire, its clear theyre lying through their teeth to try deflect, which makes it obvious that deep down even they know it was the predominantly african gang.

    Are you suggesting that the owner of a house burned out is lying about how it was burned down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    I don't get Varadkar at all. Before he was taoiseach he was saying all of the right things, about welfare fraud, about workers etc. Then when he got into the big seat he became mad Liberal, insufferably so, bumping welfare at every opportunity, gender quotas and punishing the folks that get up early in the morning.

    Now he he isn't in the big seat again he's out giving it to Sinn Fein about how they hate middle class white males. He's been doing nothing but going after white middle class males for the last 4 years.

    Either the NGO sector has an almost deep state like influence on the department of Taoiseach, or Leo is just a bit of a Sociopath that flips his personality at a moments notice.

    I think both possibilities are correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    MFPM wrote: »
    Are you suggesting that the owner of a house burned out is lying about how it was burned down?

    Im suggesting that kerosene home heating oil tanks don’t catch fire , that house didn’t burn down from a kerosene fire and fingal against racism are the ones telling lies because they want to cover it up.

    I believe the gang burned that house because theyre scrotes, nothing to do with colour, its because theyre a group of scum from a scummy area , but that group was predominantly black.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    joeguevara wrote:
    So a white male should shut up and have no say in how Ireland is run because some mystical unnamed creature did some bad in the past. Name them and do they have relevance here?


    Naming and shaming rarely if ever resolves issues, but us white western males collectively should accept our failures, and try rectify them as best as possible, all humans should have the right to communicate their opinions, freely, but in a respectful manner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Apologies, cant read tweets at work. Only reason i knew about Leos was I saw this thread last night. But I will read it later. The SF senator is equally to blame with her ridiculous comment in my opinion.

    Screenshot attached,

    IMG-20200813-112613.jpg

    Ignoring the "Tory Dork" part, he makes a point (which you alluded to) it was actually an unremarkable point, which Barry Ward had already dealt with.

    Leo can't help himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭MFPM


    I don't get Varadkar at all. Before he was taoiseach he was saying all of the right things, about welfare fraud, about workers etc. Then when he got into the big seat he became mad Liberal, insufferably so, bumping welfare at every opportunity, gender quotas and punishing the folks that get up early in the morning.

    Now he he isn't in the big seat again he's out giving it to Sinn Fein about how they hate middle class white males, of which they do btw. He's been doing nothing but going after white middle class males for the last 4 years.

    Either the NGO sector has an almost deep state like influence on the department of Taoiseach, or Leo is just a bit of a Sociopath that flips his personality at a moments notice.

    Varadakar hasn't changed at all, he is the same right wing, pro neoliberal, class baiting politician he has always been, he had to try and tone it down a little as Taoiseach. He is currently trying to undermine the government and Martin, playing to FG's middle class base readying FG for the next election which will be a battle between them and SF to lead the next gov.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Screenshot attached,

    IMG-20200813-112613.jpg

    Ignoring the "Tory Dork" part, he makes a point (which you alluded to) it was actually an unremarkable point, which Barry Ward had already dealt with.

    Leo can't help himself.

    I agree with that. Leo should have stayed out of it. Just to note, I actually cant stand him as a politician.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Im suggesting that kerosene home heating oil tanks don’t catch fire , that house didn’t burn down from a kerosene fire and fingal against racism are the ones telling lies because they want to cover it up.

    I believe the gang burned that house because theyre scrotes, nothing to do with colour, its because theyre a group of scum from a scummy area , but that group was predominantly black.

    You avoided my question - are you suggesting the owner of the house is telling lies about how his house went up in flames?


  • Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Fred Cryton


    Shinners jumping on the identify politics bandwagon....fine with me as it will lead to their destruction.

    What's more sinister though is the reverse classism...the party clearly has it in for the middle class & professionals. The feeling is mutual of course. Shinners penetrated the lower middle classes at the last election (nurses, primary school teachers, tradesmen etc) as those people are looking for a free gaf off the State....but there's no way they're getting any more voters higher up the spectrum. We have witnessed peak SF in 2020 in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    An inocuous exchange in the Dáil that happens most days of the week and Leo manages to have himself trending for all the wrong reasons.

    They need to hide the man away like Kenny, Harris and Murphy were...he's toxic at this stage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Naming and shaming rarely if ever resolves issues, but us white western males collectively should accept our failures, and try rectify them as best as possible, all humans should have the right to communicate their opinions, freely, but in a respectful manner

    This has to be a spoof


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Naming and shaming rarely if ever resolves issues, but us white western males collectively should accept our failures, and try rectify them as best as possible, all humans should have the right to communicate their opinions, freely, but in a respectful manner

    Hahahaha you are kidding me aren't you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    An inocuous exchange in the Dáil that happens most days of the week and Leo manages to have himself trending for all the wrong reasons.

    They need to hide the man away like Kenny, Harris and Murphy were...he's toxic at this stage.

    His €100k handler is getting money for old rope.


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    Shinners jumping on the identify politics bandwagon....fine with me as it will lead to their destruction.

    What's more sinister though is the reverse classism...the party clearly has it in for the middle class & professionals. The feeling is mutual of course. Shinners penetrated the lower middle classes at the last election (nurses, primary school teachers, tradesmen etc) as those people are looking for a free gaf off the State....but there's no way they're getting any more voters higher up the spectrum. We have witnessed peak SF in 2020 in my opinion.

    You were doing well until you spouted the nonsense about nurses, teachers and tradespeople looking for free gafs. Don't confuse the hard working people in those groups with the dole scroungers and wasters that are traditionally drawn to SF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,509 ✭✭✭tritium


    It’s not that Leos point doesn’t have validity so much as he’s a hypocrite making it given some of the identity politics nonsense he espoused as Taoiseach


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    us white western males collectively should accept our failures

    Careful now.

    If one demographic is expected to accept their collective failures then other demographics will have to do the same.
    Furthermore, if i'm guilty by association, then I can be proud by association ie: proud of the collective achievements of "white western males" and as we know, those achievements are many.

    See where i'm going with this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Fred Cryton


    You were doing well until you spouted the nonsense about nurses, teachers and tradespeople looking for free gafs. Don't confuse the hard working people in those groups with the dole scroungers and wasters that are traditionally drawn to SF.


    I don;t confuse them...they're two different groups. The dole scroungers always voted SF while some of their new voters in 2020 were lower middle class people swallowing the baloney that SF would magic up new cheap gafs for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    most SF voters I know wouldn't be of the woke, hand wringing types either

    Quite the opposite. I imagine a good few of them wouldn't be averse to using the n-word in casual conversation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,662 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Magdalene laundries.

    Never heard of them?

    There are a few contested accounts but women weren't wholesale abducted to be sent to the laundries. They were largely sent there by their parents or committed by the state in lieu of other punishments among many other reasons.

    There was lots wrong about the laundries but you shouldn't rewrite history to suit your narrative.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Niggaz want that gutter shit, fuck that other shit, that "play it for your mother" shit ain't the rugged shit.

    Word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    MFPM wrote: »
    You avoided my question - are you suggesting the owner of the house is telling lies about how his house went up in flames?

    I haven't, the owner of the house hasn't commented, fingal against racism are speaking for the owner. Id also suggest that the owner may be intimidated into not admitting who did it for fear of it re occuring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭MFPM


    I haven't, the owner of the house hasn't commented, fingal against racism are speaking for the owner. Id also suggest that the owner may be intimidated into not admitting who did it for fear of it re occuring

    The owner has spent through a friend as ou are well aware. So you're sticking to the story that the owner, his friend and others are all lying and the owner 'may' be intimiadted' in to lying....Wow, the depths to which you're willing to dive to defend your racial prejudice!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    The civil service was 'very white', SF don't like white people. What a ****ing idiot.
    He's incapable of adult debate.
    He's saying we need more diversity then lying to rouse whitey.
    He made a tit of himself once again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭MFPM


    I don;t confuse them...they're two different groups. The dole scroungers always voted SF while some of their new voters in 2020 were lower middle class people swallowing the baloney that SF would magic up new cheap gafs for them.

    If you want to make a constructive argument, might I suggest you park the idiotic pejorative classist attitudes and go and do some research about facts about voters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    spurious wrote: »
    “Initial inspections identified it as an electrical fire, amplified when an oil tank in the back garden also caught fire. However, this has been portrayed on social media as a deliberate arson attack as a result of racially motivated gang violence.”
    https://www.buzz.ie/news/local-volunteer-group-release-statement-after-balbriggan-house-fire-383020

    Oh dear...not marauding gangs of black young lads.

    A statement from a group of virtue signalling randomers who would be below a local residents committee in pecking order. Case closed. :rolleyes:


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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    There's an element of truth to that statement, some white western males have in fact caused some serious damage on this planet, there's an element of arrogance in our more established parties in the western world, they're currently getting their come uppings

    It's a double standard. Think of all the female leaders who have presided over troubled times, but they're not held up as representative of the gender, except when they do something wonderful. Merkel pushed for multiculturalism, in spite of all the research that showed that it simply didn't work and generated inequalities in the long term.

    Fact is, women have had their fingers in politics for a very long time, and while they might not have had a prominent role, they've influenced others. It's time to drop this divisive gender nonsense and accept that women are just as responsible for the state of the world, as men are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,509 ✭✭✭tritium


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    There's an element of truth to that statement, some white western males have in fact caused some serious damage on this planet, there's an element of arrogance in our more established parties in the western world, they're currently getting their come uppings

    You're on a wind up right?

    The high point of the British Empire was under Queen Victoria. Are you going to ascribe collective guilt for white women there too? Similarly Mao, Pol Pot and Gengis Khan we’re Asian- do you apply collective guilt there to all Asians?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    I hope Leo appreciates all the misogyny he's stirred up trying to be clever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Bowie wrote: »
    I hope Leo appreciates all the misogyny he's stirred up trying to be clever.

    Is there a hatred or prejudice of women being stirred up because of his post? I havent seen it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    MFPM wrote: »
    Why are you lying?



    Are gangs of youth not 'youth gangs' - what exactly is your issue?



    Parking your lies about the house....are you suggesting that anti social behaviour is not linked to frustration and lack of facilities?

    When they threatened to cut the baby out of a pregnant woman in Portmarnock there was no Covid-19 (https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/pregnant-woman-threatened-gang-up-13545298)

    When they stabbed two young lads in Rush there was no Covid-19 (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/teen-boys-15-knifed-by-gang-of-youths-in-vicious-seaside-attacks-36188193.html)

    When they attacked a 12 year old child in Skerries there was no Covid-19 (https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/girl-12-surrounded-gang-teenage-16571226)

    When they attacked and tried to take a detectives gun in Lusk, there was no Covid-19. (https://www.thejournal.ie/violent-disorder-childrens-court-5120506-Jun2020/)

    When they attacked an elderly man and his son in Balbriggan, there was no Covid-19, and SF again played it down as "youth gangs" rather than who it actually was. (https://www.independent.ie/regionals/fingalindependent/news/balbriggan-protest-over-youth-gangs-36377335.html)


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