Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

https://www.newstalk.com/news/varadkar-economic-impact-covid-19-lot-worse-thought-1058486

Laughable, shows you how deluded the band of fools are !

JRant wrote: »

So, it looks like what we have in terms of opening up will be all we get for the foreseeable future.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0811/1158457-cabinet-sub-committee-on-covid-19/

MM mentioning a 6 month timeframe for the current measures and no reintroduction of new opening up phases. To me, that reads that, pubs, nightclubs, sporting events, concerts and everything else currently on hold will be that way we'll into 2021.

ffs joke

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Tax rises, reduction of benefits, no more housing, and so on.

But in you come to Direct Provision, no worries. You are welcome.

Normally I dont agree with you, but on this post we are in complete agreement.

Feels weird tbh

Idbatterim wrote: »

Not saint varadkar and co anyway! And they said sf would be a danger to the economy.... listen, back to square one though, its all about covid, forget the real world :rolleyes:

In typical Leo doublespeak he's softening up the people for the coming taxes and cuts.

Non essential dental visits to stop. WHO.

Looney1 wrote: »

Non essential dental visits to stop. WHO.

How do they define what's non-essential?
Most people don't pop into their dentist for an aul chat and a bit of a browse.

JRant wrote: »

How do they define what's non-essential?
Most people don't pop into their dentist for an aul chat and a bit of a browse.

Treatment of pain only

road_high wrote: »

Absolutely took the words out of my mouth...been in the back of my mind for months but a “Covid Solidarity levy” sounds exactly the kind of crap they would introduce as a “temporary” desperate measure.
We are absolutely fcuked from a public finance POV and I expect that to be reflected strongly in the upcoming budget. If not an emergency one which may be brought forward.
Time to snap out of la la land this all has to be paid for

I don't see how they can't introduce another tax along with increasing the ones we already have. That will be dressed up in a lovely altruistic message of "those who can pay, should pay". The estimates already released showed a 30 billion hole in the finances. They have since pledged another 30 billion to help businesses. Yet the estimates seem to have been completely underestimated.

Couple that to the fact that banks are going to take an absolute paddling in the next 12/18 months when a large proportion of SME's start defaulting on loans through no fault of their own. Then we'll have another round of non-performing mortgages as well.

JRant wrote: »

I mean, who could have foreseen such a huge economic impact.

Walking around Dublin city centre looking at all the businesses and hotels closed is scary and that’s just the obvious destruction. Aer Lingus, Ryanair and DAA are haemorrhaging money but how many hundreds of smaller businesses supply and service them and are at risk?

This wilful destruction just has to stop but as another poster said, they’ve invested so much in it now, they can’t pull back.

hamburgham wrote: »

Walking around Dublin city centre looking at all the businesses and hotels closed is scary and that’s just the obvious destruction. Aer Lingus, Ryanair and DAA are haemorrhaging money but how many hundreds of smaller businesses supply and service them and are at risk?

This wilful destruction just has to stop but as another poster said, they’ve invested so much in it now, they can’t pull back.

Indeed, it's way worse than 2008 IMO. I travelled through a few small villages over the weekend and the scale of closures is beyond anything I've seen before. A lot of places would have just about been hanging on but they are gone to the wall now and won't be reopening any time soon.

JRant wrote: »

The USC will be bumped back up and I wouldn't be one bit surprised to see another "emergency" tax being introduced, a sort of COVID cover charge.

You can also be sure that just like in 2008 the low hanging fruit of after school clubs and schemes for disadvantaged areas will be immediately cut.

2021 is going to be grim financially for the country.

Well given that we contribute the guts of a BILLION euro to the Foreign Aid fund, we should just decide to kick out the dodgy ones who have been trafficked and hold our heads up for deciding that.

But no, houses and social supports for every entrant, asylum seekers, DP residents, and genuine refugees last. Honestly.

If we got our Billion back from Foreign Aid I could think again, but no, there are far too many scammers, and far too little action by Gov about it. Best in class again.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Anyone that claims they didn't know there would be economic pain coming in the form of tax rises and service cuts is a bloody idiot.

I’d say a good 80% of the populace. Very clearly evident on here. “Ah sure we’ll keep borrowing, it’s practically free money...”. That’s a very dangerous place to be.
Plus you’ve a huge proportion that contribute nothing to the pot so for them there’s no appreciation of the value of money and just an assumption “the government “ will keep paying.
That’s the start of it. The next few weeks you’ll see the start of a “we may need to cut” conversation after Leo starting the ball rolling there today