Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

road_high

Like every thing in life’s you’re better face up to it sooner rather than pretending it’s all ok. The damage has been done really

facehugger99

Idbatterim wrote: »

Roadhigh, cant see them touching the holy grail of the welfare bonus! Last buat, they just decimated capital expenditure, with the greens propping up government, might be harder to do this time... varadkar would no doubt secretly love another election , lets just hope its not until after budget, when the sheeple realise, this wasnt some free meal ...

It would almost be funny to see the Shinners romp home in the next election.

Imagine them trying to deliver their socialist utopia, money-tree policies with a €30bn a year hole in the finances.

I bet they're absolutely sh;tting themselves at the prospect.

Jinglejangle69

Idbatterim wrote: »

Roadhigh, cant see them touching the holy grail of the welfare bonus! Last buat, they just decimated capital expenditure, with the greens propping up government, might be harder to do this time... varadkar would no doubt secretly love another election , lets just hope its not until after budget, when the sheeple realise, this wasnt some free meal ...

Sheeple?

Ah don't tell me people still use this term?

Embarrassing.

John O.Groats

Idbatterim wrote: »

Roadhigh, cant see them touching the holy grail of the welfare bonus! Last buat, they just decimated capital expenditure, with the greens propping up government, might be harder to do this time... varadkar would no doubt secretly love another election , lets just hope its not until after budget, when the sheeple realise, this wasnt some free meal ...

Looks like you yourself are one of the "sheeple" then seeing as you voted for FG and FF previously. Who are you going to vote for next time? It would seem to be SF going by your previous posts. If they get into power you will see a ****ehow right enough.

Idbatterim

facehugger99 wrote: »

It would almost be funny to see the Shinners romp home in the next election.

Imagine them trying to deliver their socialist utopia, money-tree policies with a €30bn a year hole in the finances.

I bet they're absolutely sh;tting themselves at the prospect.

Its speculated sf would be financially incompetent ffg have beyond doubt proved it with their idiotic decision making with covid ... oh i reckon the schadenfreude will be off the wall here, from myself included , when the " tough decisions" have to be made in the months ahead. Didnt even stop to think of a few months down the road!

facehugger99

In 6 months time when we have hundreds of thousands out of work and hundreds of viable businesses gone to the wall, maybe some media outlet will question why a group of single-issue bureaucrats in NHEPT were allowed to dictate Government policy.

They've clucked away to each other in an echo-chamber and their every hysterical proposal has been rubber-stamped by the politicians we pay a king's ransom to represent the interests of the people of the State.

Assetbacked

https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/air-travel-should-resume-opinion-5172205-Aug2020/?utm_source=story

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/moving-in-and-out-of-lockdown-is-a-recipe-for-economic-disaster-1.4327861?mode=amp

Finally starting to see more articles in the main media publications questioning the all or nothing lockdown approach and even noting that NZ may not have taken the best approach, given it now appears they have no real plan other than to lockdown or not. The NZ approach could look very silly when, in the next couple of months, most countries are out the other side and NZ are experiencing their first wave.

Idbatterim

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Sheeple?

Ah don't tell me people still use this term?

Embarrassing.

No... the " new normal" now thats embarrasing! Listen , wheh their entire view of this situation is shaped by rte and they have no critical thinking , they are sheep. Do you think all of the fireign mecua outts are runnimg with the nothing other than covid matters bull****? They arent...

The same fools will be up in arms in the autumn budget, because of actions they supported!!!

Idbatterim

facehugger99 wrote: »

In 6 months time when we have hundreds of thousands out of work and hundreds of viable businesses gone to the wall, maybe some media outlet will question why a group of single-issue bureaucrats in NHEPT were allowed to dictate Government policy.

They've clucked away to each other in an echo-chamber and their every hysterical proposal has been rubber-stamped by the politicians we pay a king's ransom to represent the interests of the people of the State.

Hang on! I agree with you, but nphet arent calling any shots, the spineless politicians just hang off their every word, bevause its the fall back insurance policy for if the **** hit the fan here with covid, like it has in the uk....

dalyboy

Is paschal Donahue still a TD or is he out on an extended 6 month smoke break ?

Has anyone ever witnessed such an absolute dereliction of their duty since the beginning of Irish politics? Pops in every month or so for a sound bite or two and then off again .

Even wags the dog yesterday to let Leo inject some pain via his kite flying performance.
He’s the poster boy of the word “chancer”

Idbatterim

John O.Groats wrote: »

Looks like you yourself are one of the "sheeple" then seeing as you voted for FG and FF previously. Who are you going to vote for next time? It would seem to be SF going by your previous posts. If they get into power you will see a ****ehow right enough.

Listen , ffg are alrea left wing. Id vote sf as they might do something on housing and you know what? If they or ffg all likeky, ruin us financially again, maybe we can get the troika to stick ariund for good next time ..

Ireland... boom , bust... repeat exavrky the same mistakes , made juar a few years before . As soon ad in power , feathwr yiur kwn nest and buy off the peasants, and especislly oap with futher wekfare hokes to an already eye watering , rinse and repeat!

If pay freeze or cuts, healthcare workers wont be expected to take any. Rightfully so you could argue.

Idbatterim

dalyboy wrote: »

Is paschal Donahue still a TD or is he out on an extended 6 month smoke break ?

Has anyone ever witnessed such an absolute dereliction of their duty since the beginning of Irish politics? Pops in every month or so for a sound bite or two and then off again .

Even wags the dog yesterday to let Leo inject some pain via his kite flying performance.
He’s the poster boy of the word “chancer”

Havent heard from or seen the boyscout in months at this stage... probably locked himself in a basement...

John O.Groats

Idbatterim wrote: »

Its speculated sf would be financially incompetent ffg have beyond doubt proved it with their idiotic decision making with covid ... oh i reckon the schadenfreude will be off the wall here, from myself included , when the " tough decisions" have to be made in the months ahead. Didnt even stop to think of a few months down the road!

I have no doubt that will be the case from you anyway. So why did you yourself vote for them previously?

paw patrol

paw patrol wrote: »

I have emailed all my TDs this morning- 3 of the 5 are in government parties. It's time everybody here did the same and encouraged their peers to do likewise.


Also I'll commit to attending any anti lockdown protest (regardless of organiser) cos it's that serious

just as an update.

one TD responded to my email. Gave me the party line , insisted nphet answered to the government and didn't run the show. But they did respond and probably showed their value to my constituency given the others failed too.



They did send this prior to the Indo's expose (of sorts) that senior civil servants were against lockdown - pity I didn't have that for my reply

John O.Groats

dalyboy wrote: »

Is paschal Donahue still a TD or is he out on an extended 6 month smoke break ?

Has anyone ever witnessed such an absolute dereliction of their duty since the beginning of Irish politics? Pops in every month or so for a sound bite or two and then off again .

Even wags the dog yesterday to let Leo inject some pain via his kite flying performance.
He’s the poster boy of the word “chancer”

Idbatterim wrote: »

Havent heard from or seen the boyscout in months at this stage... probably locked himself in a basement...

If either of you bothered to do some basic research you would know that since mid July he has been President of the Euro group of finance ministers. But sure don`t let facts get in the way of an agenda driven insulting rant. Pathetic gibberish.

dalyboy

John O.Groats wrote: »

If either of you bothered to do some basic research you would know that since mid July he has been President of the Euro group of finance ministers But sure don`t let facts get in the way of an agenda driven insulting rant. Pathetic gibberish.

No agenda here. Just calling out incompetence as clear as day.
Where was he in April / May / June / half July ?
Be an apologist as much as you like but if he’s unfit for the job or unable to attend to his duties then he should be replaced.

If it’s not considered “gibberish” by you , But we are in the early days of a financial melt down never seen before and need to have a minister for finance sitting firmly at the helm steering and communicating to us. As tax payers I reckon it’s not too much to ask for.

Idbatterim

Idbatterim wrote: »

Roadhigh, cant see them touching the holy grail of the welfare bonus! Last buat, they just decimated capital expenditure, with the greens propping up government, might be harder to do this time... varadkar would no doubt secretly love another election , lets just hope its not until after budget, when the sheeple realise, this wasnt some free meal ...

Sheeple, good one, come up with it by yourself?

facehugger99

facehugger99 wrote: »

In 6 months time when we have hundreds of thousands out of work and hundreds of viable businesses gone to the wall, maybe some media outlet will question why a group of single-issue bureaucrats in NHEPT were allowed to dictate Government policy.

They've clucked away to each other in an echo-chamber and their every hysterical proposal has been rubber-stamped by the politicians we pay a king's ransom to represent the interests of the people of the State.

Single issue bureaucrats - spoofer:

Member Role
Ronan Glynn Acting Chief Medical Officer, Chair of NPHET[21]
Eibhlin Connolly Deputy Chief Medical Officer of the Department of Health[21]
Alan Smith Deputy Chief Medical Officer of the Department of Health[21]
Paul Bolger Director of the Department of Health Resources Division[21]
Colm Bergin Consultant Infectious Diseases, St. James's Hospital and Professor of Medicine, Trinity College Dublin[21]
Tracey Conroy Acute Hospitals Division of the Department of Health[21]
John Cuddihy Interim Director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC)[21]
Cillian de Gascun Director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory, Chair of the Coronavirus Expert Advisory Group[21]
Colm Desmond Corporate Legislation, Mental Health, Drugs Policy and Food Safety Division of the Department of Health[21]
Colm Henry Chief Clinical Officer of the Health Service Executive (HSE)[21]
Lorraine Doherty National Clinical Director for Health Protection of the HPSC and HSE[21]
Mary Favier President of the Irish College of General Practitioners (ICGP)[21]
Fergal Goodman Primary Care Division of the Department of Health[21]
Kevin Kelleher Assistant National Director of the HSE[21]
Marita Kinsella Director of the National Patient Safety Office at the Department of Health[21]
Kathleen Mac Lellan Social Care Division of the Department of Health[21]
Jeanette Mc Callion Medical Assessor of the Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA)[21]
Tom McGuinness Assistant National Director at the Office of Emergency Planning at the HSE[21]
Siobhán Ní Bhrian Lead for Integrated Care of the HSE[21]
Philip Nolan President of Maynooth University[21]
Kate O'Flaherty Head of Health and Wellbeing at the Department of Health[21]
Darina O'Flanagan Special Advisor to NPHET and the Department of Health[21]
Siobhan O'Sullivan Chief Bioethics Officer of the Department of Health[21]
Michael Power National Clinical Lead, Critical Care Programme, HSE Consultant in Anaesthetics and Intensive Care Medicine at Beaumont Hospital, Dublin[21]
Phelim Quinn Chief Executive Officer of the Health Information and Quality Authority (HIQA)[21]
Máirín Ryan Deputy Chief Executive and Director of Health Technology Assessment of HIQA[21]
Breda Smyth Director of Public Health Medicine of the HSE[21]
Deirdre Watters Head of Communications of the Department of Health[21]
Liam Woods National Director of Acute Operations of the HSE[21]
David Walsh National Director of Community Operations of the HSE[21]
David Leach Deputy National Director of Communications of the HSE[21]

Downlinz

facehugger99 wrote: »

In 6 months time when we have hundreds of thousands out of work and hundreds of viable businesses gone to the wall, maybe some media outlet will question why a group of single-issue bureaucrats in NHEPT were allowed to dictate Government policy.

They've clucked away to each other in an echo-chamber and their every hysterical proposal has been rubber-stamped by the politicians we pay a king's ransom to represent the interests of the people of the State.

What a disgusting post. You can't even spell NPHET correctly yet you're denigrating them for doing their job as medical experts giving medical advice.

facehugger99

Deleted User wrote: »

Single issue bureaucrats - spoofer:

You've literally proved my point - well done.

John O.Groats

Downlinz wrote: »

What a disgusting post. You can't even spell NPHET correctly yet you're denigrating them for doing their job as medical experts giving medical advice.

The latest in a long list of them actually.

John O.Groats

dalyboy wrote: »

No agenda here. Just calling out incompetence as clear as day.
Where was he in April / May / June / half July ?
Be an apologist as much as you like but if he’s unfit for the job or unable to attend to his duties then he should be replaced.

If it’s not considered “gibberish” by you , But we are in the early days of a financial melt down never seen before and need to have a minister for finance sitting firmly at the helm steering and communicating to us. As tax payers I reckon it’s not too much to ask for.

If it is as clear as day that he is so incompetent how come he was elected President of the Euro group of finance ministers? Or are they all incompetent too?

facehugger99

facehugger99 wrote: »

You've literally proved my point - well done.

I suppose you think having medical experts across a broad range of disciplines and areas of practice are not the appropriate people to advise on a medical issue.

facehugger99

Deleted User wrote: »

I suppose you think having medical experts across a broad range of disciplines and areas of practice are not the appropriate people to advise on a medical issue.

Less than a dozen people in hospital while hundreds of thousands are out of work, thousands of viable business are going to the wall and multiple billions are being borrowed every month.

It ain't a medical issue.



You'll find out soon enough.

John O.Groats

facehugger99 wrote: »

Less than a dozen people in hospital while hundreds of thousands are out of work, thousands of viable business are going to the wall and multiple billions are being borrowed every month.

It ain't a medical issue.



You'll find out soon enough.

"It ain't a medical issue"

Jesus Christ.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

FintanMcluskey

John O.Groats wrote: »

"It ain't a medical issue"

Jesus Christ.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

The hysteria is a mental health issue, from which many wont recover, (god bless) so I suppose technically it is a "health" issue as such.

John O.Groats

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The hysteria is a mental health issue, from which many wont recover, (god bless) so I suppose technically it is a "health" issue as such.

The only hysteria I see is coming from the constant flow of anti government, anti authority, anti public service, anti teacher etc.etc.etc. ranting from certain quarters. Plenty of examples of it on this forum and this thread in particular.

facehugger99

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The hysteria is a mental health issue, from which many wont recover, (god bless) so I suppose technically it is a "health" issue as such.

Sure, not to mention the billions that are going to be cut from our heath budget in the coming years.

Somehow I doubt we'll have the 'granny-saviours' crying their crocodile tears on social-media for the thousands that will suffer from that - not enough 'likes' for them

Pitch n Putt

Member Role
Ronan Glynn Acting Chief Medical Officer, Chair of NPHET[21]
Eibhlin Connolly Deputy Chief Medical Officer of the Department of Health[21]
Alan Smith Deputy Chief Medical Officer of the Department of Health[21]
Paul Bolger Director of the Department of Health Resources Division[21]
Colm Bergin Consultant Infectious Diseases, St. James's Hospital and Professor of Medicine, Trinity College Dublin[21]
Tracey Conroy Acute Hospitals Division of the Department of Health[21]
John Cuddihy Interim Director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC)[21]
Cillian de Gascun Director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory, Chair of the Coronavirus Expert Advisory Group[21]
Colm Desmond Corporate Legislation, Mental Health, Drugs Policy and Food Safety Division of the Department of Health[21]
Colm Henry Chief Clinical Officer of the Health Service Executive (HSE)[21]
Lorraine Doherty National Clinical Director for Health Protection of the HPSC and HSE[21]
Mary Favier President of the Irish College of General Practitioners (ICGP)[21]
Fergal Goodman Primary Care Division of the Department of Health[21]
Kevin Kelleher Assistant National Director of the HSE[21]
Marita Kinsella Director of the National Patient Safety Office at the Department of Health[21]
Kathleen Mac Lellan Social Care Division of the Department of Health[21]
Jeanette Mc Callion Medical Assessor of the Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA)[21]
Tom McGuinness Assistant National Director at the Office of Emergency Planning at the HSE[21]
Siobhán Ní Bhrian Lead for Integrated Care of the HSE[21]
Philip Nolan President of Maynooth University[21]
Kate O'Flaherty Head of Health and Wellbeing at the Department of Health[21]
Darina O'Flanagan Special Advisor to NPHET and the Department of Health[21]
Siobhan O'Sullivan Chief Bioethics Officer of the Department of Health[21]
Michael Power National Clinical Lead, Critical Care Programme, HSE Consultant in Anaesthetics and Intensive Care Medicine at Beaumont Hospital, Dublin[21]
Phelim Quinn Chief Executive Officer of the Health Information and Quality Authority (HIQA)[21]
Máirín Ryan Deputy Chief Executive and Director of Health Technology Assessment of HIQA[21]
Breda Smyth Director of Public Health Medicine of the HSE[21]
Deirdre Watters Head of Communications of the Department of Health[21]
Liam Woods National Director of Acute Operations of the HSE[21]
David Walsh National Director of Community Operations of the HSE[21]
David Leach Deputy National Director of Communications of the HSE[21]



Easy to see how their is no danger of our Health service been overrun (exposed) with this virus

John O.Groats

facehugger99 wrote: »

Sure, not to mention the billions that are going to be cut from our heath budget in the coming years.

Somehow I doubt we'll have the 'granny-saviours' crying their crocodile tears on social-media for the thousands that will suffer from that - not enough 'likes' for them

For someone who constantly rants against people on social media you seem to spend plenty of time on it yourself. The rest of your post that I highlighted is the usual hysterical gibberish from you.