Is it just me or have SF vanished?

jm08 · 11-08-2020 12:20PM

seamus wrote: »

The mistake you're making is thinking that this has anything to do with what he was buying or where he was buying it. It was a pathetic attempt at a potshot.

If he went to Cripp's he'd be accused of pandering to Leafy South Dublin FG voters.

If he went out to a shop in Blanchardstown village he'd be accused of playing local politics.

There was no substance to this tweet. It was bitching for the sake of bitching. SF special.

Actually, I think it was just a stupid idea in the first place to have Leo buying shoes anywhere. Leo is meant to be government minister for the whole country and he shouldn't be doing stupid photoshoots like this that are divisive.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 12:21PM

jh79 wrote: »

Buying a pair of shoes and going for dinner with his partner shows a lack of empathy? Jaysus.

Did you just ignore what I claimed was the most serious instance of his coldness and lack of empathy? Jaysus, that takes the biscuit.

If you are cold and lack empathy it will reveal itself in various levels. Varadkar has now done it, revealed his lack, at various levels.

seamus · 11-08-2020 12:23PM

jm08 wrote: »

he shouldn't be doing stupid photoshoots like this that are divisive.

The photoshoot was certainly pointless and perhaps frivilous.

But divisive?

The only person who made any noise about it, quickly slunk off into the darkness after realising how ridiculous they were being.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 12:25PM

seamus wrote: »

See you're out and out a SF supporter. Whereas you won't find any indication here that I'm a FG supporter. I'll support any valid criticism of any politician. A man choosing to spend his own money on a mid-range pair of shoes, is not valid criticism.

This is not about Varadkar. This is about Cullinane and how he's an ignoramus that's completely unsuitable for public office. The childishness of a 46 year old man shouting "up the RA" was just the beginning, but he's maintained this nonsense throughout.

And the support he maintains within SF displays the wider contagion. O'Broin and Doherty are just as prolific with the invented outrage, but they're a little more savvy than Cullinane and aren't quite as easiy caught out.

I think Cullinane is making very valid points about the new lockdown and meat plants in his role as opposition spokesman.
Which is maybe why he deleted this tweet...because the huffy indignant..'don't dare criticise Leo' brigade were in full flow and distracting from the more important issues. Maybe that is why they are out in force today...what do you think?

11-08-2020 12:25PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

After all, 'We are all in this together loike'.

Shop local. Support the local economy.
Would you have our taoisigh go around looking like Wallace, Murphy or Boy Barrett?

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 12:26PM

seamus wrote: »

The photoshoot was certainly pointless and perhaps frivilous.

But divisive?

The only person who made any noise about it, quickly slunk off into the darkness after realising how ridiculous they were being.

Loads of people commented on the PR stunt yesterday on Twitter...not just Cullinane.

Nice spinning there Seamus.

Truthvader · 11-08-2020 12:26PM

smurgen wrote: »

People droning on about SF online supporter yet dehumanising language like this gets totally ignored.

Not referring to online supporters here. Referring to thug behaviour of Heffernan (if you are looking for dehumanising language) and eejit behaviour of the moron who ran the "shoe" story.

People can make their own minds up about the Sinn Fein cheerleaders here themselves

11-08-2020 12:27PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Did you just ignore what I claimed was the most serious instance of his coldness and lack of empathy? Jaysus, that takes the biscuit.

If you are cold and lack empathy it will reveal itself in various levels. Varadkar has now done it, revealed his lack, at various levels.

But throwing in buying shoes and having a dinner with your partner is ridiculous.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 12:29PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Shop local. Support the local economy.
Would you have our taoisigh go around looking like Wallace, Murphy or Boy Barrett?

Totally agree Maryanne....in all of these shoots he is promoting an image.

JohnnyFlash · 11-08-2020 12:32PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Totally agree Maryanne....in all of these shoots he is promoting an image.

What image?

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 12:36PM

jh79 wrote: »

But throwing in buying shoes and having a dinner with your partner is ridiculous.

Not when you are attempting to criticise a pattern of behaviour that shows somebody as being cold, and lacking in empathy.

I don't like making claims without backing it up with evidence and I am not the only one who has observed this in Varadkar.

Right across journalism and politics he has been called on this.

11-08-2020 12:42PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not when you are attempting to criticise a pattern of behaviour that shows somebody as being cold, and lacking in empathy.

I don't like making claims without backing it up with evidence and I am not the only one who has observed this in Varadkar.

Right across journalism and politics he has been called on this.

So how does these two examples show lack of empathy? Encouraging people to spend in the local economy helps with the COVID recover from a financial perspective.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 12:48PM

jh79 wrote: »

So how does these two examples show lack of empathy? Encouraging people to spend in the local economy helps with the COVID recover from a financial perspective.

So, somebody says that there is a 'pattern of behaviour here' and you are going to insist on picking out the behaviour that are least serious and DEMAND explanations?

There are and were many other ways to support local business.

As part of the image conscious obsession of the man it was worthy of note...the shoe PR shoot.
The huffy over reaction to somebody in particular commenting on it (a Shinner surprise surprise) and nobody else who commented on it, is funny at this stage.

JohnnyFlash · 11-08-2020 12:49PM

jh79 wrote: »

So how does these two examples show lack of empathy? Encouraging people to spend in the local economy helps with the COVID recover from a financial perspective.

The funny thing is Francie is a passionate supporter of a party who had Gerry Adams as leader. A man who doesn’t even understand the concept of empathy. Not a trace of it in him. As off a human being as you’d meet in a long month.

jm08 · 11-08-2020 12:51PM

seamus wrote: »

The photoshoot was certainly pointless and perhaps frivilous.

But divisive?

The only person who made any noise about it, quickly slunk off into the darkness after realising how ridiculous they were being.

The timing was poor from the point of view of the lockdown in the country (Kildare, Laois and Offaly), while city slicker Government Minister goes shopping on one of Ireland most expensive streets in the capital to buy a pair of shoes.

A touch of the Marie Antoinette's about it.

11-08-2020 12:55PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So, somebody says that there is a 'pattern of behaviour here' and you are going to insist on picking out the behaviour that are least serious and DEMAND explanations?

There are and were many other ways to support local business.

As part of the image conscious obsession of the man it was worthy of note...the shoe PR shoot.
The huffy over reaction to somebody in particular commenting on it (a Shinner surprise surprise) and nobody else who commented on it, is funny at this stage.

A bit rich for a Shinner claiming someone lacks empathy to be fair.

Members of FG have done lots of bad things but none have ever murdered people or turned a blind eye to murder.

11-08-2020 12:56PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So, somebody says that there is a 'pattern of behaviour here' and you are going to insist on picking out the behaviour that are least serious and DEMAND explanations?

There are and were many other ways to support local business.

As part of the image conscious obsession of the man it was worthy of note...the shoe PR shoot.
The huffy over reaction to somebody in particular commenting on it (a Shinner surprise surprise) and nobody else who commented on it, is funny at this stage.

A bit rich for a Shinner claiming someone lacks empathy to be fair.

Members of FG have done lots of bad things but none have ever murdered people or turned a blind eye to murder.

Niallof9 · 11-08-2020 01:03PM

jm08 wrote: »

The timing was poor from the point of view of the lockdown in the country (Kildare, Laois and Offaly), while city slicker Government Minister goes shopping on one of Ireland most expensive streets in the capital to buy a pair of shoes.

A touch of the Marie Antoinette's about it.

Yep cause thats what he was doing there, he was off shopping rather than acting in his role as Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment.

ffs i'm so sick and tired of this ****e at this stage.

and yeah Francie John Brady was going on about it as well. Kittie Holland and on and on.

Its populist bull****.

I imagine the shop was chosen due to its central location and the government have a pr and taoiseachs/tainaste department who run it. People seriously think Leo is the one who is the man who directs all this stuff?

people haven't got a clue how government and these things are done.

i will agree there is an argument they should be a little smarter about it. and i'm sure somebody would mention going to a cheaper shop but you can be gauranteed the same ****e would be spun. but calling him out for anything is absolute bull****. who said he even bought any ****ing shoes?

Proof of Leo's lack of empathy. Yeah right. For all we know he could be an autistic, awkward, anti social person. I'm no real fan of his but the criticism he gets is stupid just as it was with Enda, who was universally respected and liked in Europe.

markodaly · 11-08-2020 01:06PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I don't think the tweet was about money, it was about Leo's coldness, lack of empathy and insensitivity,

For buying a pair of trainers? Next time out, Leo gets criticised because he shops in Supervalu rather than Lidl.

Rodney Bathgate · 11-08-2020 01:09PM

jm08 wrote: »

Its owned by the Canadian Weston family. Mrs Weston is Irish and they are Ireland's richest family (they own BTs as well).

Read the name again. Penneys. Not Arnotts.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 01:10PM

jh79 wrote: »

A bit rich for a Shinner claiming someone lacks empathy to be fair.

Members of FG have done lots of bad things but none have ever murdered people or turned a blind eye to murder.

What?

FF and FG spent most of the last 100 yrs turning a blind eye to what was going on in NI when Irish people were getting beaten of the streets and shot. (call it killing or murder, whatever)

Still do unless there is political gain for them in something that has gone on.

Niallof9 · 11-08-2020 01:11PM

yeah sure they did. all those talks and diplomacy and Haughey's gun running are imagined. jesus is this the level we are dealing with? deal in ****ing realities man

Rodney Bathgate · 11-08-2020 01:12PM

joeguevara wrote: »

Shaws.

Are they still ‘almost nationwide’?

joeguevara · 11-08-2020 01:15PM

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Are they still ‘almost nationwide’?

Love that phrase.

11-08-2020 01:18PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What?

FF and FG spent most of the last 100 yrs turning a blind eye to what was going on in NI when Irish people were getting beaten of the streets and shot. (call it killing or murder, whatever)

Still do unless there is political gain for them in something that has gone on.

What should they have done, declared war on the UK?

Did SF members show empathy to the family of Robert McCartney?

smurgen · 11-08-2020 01:23PM

jh79 wrote: »

What should they have done, declared war on the UK?

Did SF members show empathy to the family of Robert McCartney?

Did Vardkar show sympathy to Ruth Morrissey's husband? No he had his spokes person refute the details of the widow's public statement on the day of her death.

https://twitter.com/PhelanVicky/status/1286648467956224001?s=19

markodaly · 11-08-2020 01:23PM

joeguevara wrote: »

Is there really nothing better to discuss than a tweet about a pair of 'fashion shoes'. He tweeted it, regretted it and deleted it. Same as members of all parties have done. Anything I have missed?

Has any FG TD tweeted about another TD's fashion choice?
The equivalence would be someone like Eoghan Murphy tweeting about some blouse MLMD wore or bought. Yet, this never happened, but sure.. 'everyone' does it ... right?

The usual SF excuse when they are caught with the fingers in the cookie jar?

joeguevara · 11-08-2020 01:25PM

markodaly wrote: »

Has any FG TD tweeted about another TD's fashion choice?
The equivalence would be someone like Eoghan Murphy tweeting about some blouse MLMD wore or bought. Yet, this never happened, but sure.. 'everyone' does it ... right?

The usual SF excuse when they are caught with the fingers in the cookie jar?

I meant regretting a tweet and deleting it. I have no love of sinn fein.

This is a ridiculous thing to discuss though. I think Cullinane is a liability though.

11-08-2020 01:26PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

What image?

An image of a hard working politician taking time out of his busy schedule to promote and support local businesses. Neatly dressed. Shoes polished. Well groomed. A credit to his country.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 01:37PM

jh79 wrote: »

What should they have done, declared war on the UK?

Did SF members show empathy to the family of Robert McCartney?

Political parties can all be accused of failure to show empathy at times...every single one of them.
Even individuals can too...YES even Gurry and Mary Lou.

the point being made here is that Leo is a serial 'dis player' of these traits, and the evidence is there across a wide range of levels and over a wide range of issues.

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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