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COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Threads merged


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Do we know how quickly the 100 million doses the EU has ordered will be available and how many Ireland will get?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    I’ll probably need Hmmzis or hmmm to confirm this but phase 3 with oxford can’t be far off finishing??
    They were hoping for results in late September/October, but it all depends on how much infection there is in their trial areas. It's really not their timetable to control unfortunately.

    Re the 50% quoted above. The US regulator (FDA) said they wanted vaccines to have a minimum 50% efficiency, but we don't know yet what the vaccines will actually have. I have seen no vaccine developer claim that their vaccine is only going to be 50% effective, and most seem to think it will be considerably higher.

    Fauci was also misquoted repeatedly this weekend by anti-vaxxers jumping on his comment that the vaccine is unlikely to be 100% effective. Few vaccines are - but when they are effective enough, and enough people take them, we get to herd immunity.

    We've always had a problem with anti-vaxxers taking quotes out of context, and using them to justify whatever it is they believe in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    hmmm wrote: »
    They were hoping for results in late September/October, but it all depends on how much infection there is in their trial areas. It's really not their timetable to control unfortunately.

    Re the 50% quoted above. The US regulator (FDA) said they wanted vaccines to have a minimum 50% efficiency, but we don't know yet what the vaccines will actually have. I have seen no vaccine developer claim that their vaccine is only going to be 50% effective, and most seem to think it will be considerably higher.

    Fauci was also misquoted repeatedly this weekend by anti-vaxxers jumping on his comment that the vaccine is unlikely to be 100% effective. Few vaccines are - but when they are effective enough, and enough people take them, we get to herd immunity.

    We've always had a problem with anti-vaxxers taking quotes out of context, and using them to justify whatever it is they believe in.

    Are we looking at phase 2 results by month end?
    Anti vaccine crowd don’t have enough tin foil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Shelflife wrote: »
    Do they stop/slow down testing over the weekend ? Is testing done around the clock or is it just 9-5 ?

    I cant understand how getting the results back from the tests isnt a high priority.
    Laboratory testing is done 24/7.
    But there are many links in the chain. You don't know for sure where the delay is.

    There have been a couple of reports in this thread of tests taking a bit longer than expected lately.
    My guess is that these huge clusters in LOK have caused a backlog and are being prioritised over other community cases at the moment.

    Even when the lab test is complete, there could be delays in the communication of results.

    Ring the NVRL tomorrow for a follow up. They have a result support line.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Fauci's exact quote was "We don't know yet what the efficacy might be. We don't know if it will be 50 percent or 60 percent. I'd like it to be 75 percent or more"

    Surprise surprise people have taken from this that the vaccine will only be 50% effective, they need to read beyond the headline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Northern lassie


    Hi There

    Would anyone know where I could get access to a covid-19 test. Am willing to pay to get it done privately. Its for someone coming from Germany. I'm thinking if he could get a test done, it would remove the need to quarantine for the 14 days ... would quarantine until he gets a (hopefully) negative result.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    Tropical medical bureau does them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    I haven't heard of any private clinics offering it - only the antibody testing. Presumably all testing laboratories have been corralled into the public testing, and don't have any extra capacity to offer private testing? Could he get a private test in Germany and then fly over? Obviously that wouldn't negate the possibility he might catch it on the airplane though, so he might have to isolate anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm


    The private hospital in Waterford does them so I imagine the others countrywide do also.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,356 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    I would imagine that some private hospitals or medical centers would, don't call the HSE, they won't know.

    Costs from €150 to €250 I believe....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭arctictree


    Does a negative result remove the need for quarantine? It would make sense but I dont see it in the legislation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Tig98


    Negative result does not negate the need for quarantine. No one cares if he tests negative when he comes home because he could have caught it in Germany, either airport, on the plane or on the bus in Dublin.

    Hence why you isolate for two weeks. You may not by symptomatic at the time of arrival but you may develop symptoms by the end of the two week period.

    No need for a test, just wait out the two weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,182 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Hi There

    Would anyone know where I could get access to a covid-19 test. Am willing to pay to get it done privately. Its for someone coming from Germany. I'm thinking if he could get a test done, it would remove the need to quarantine for the 14 days ... would quarantine until he gets a (hopefully) negative result.

    Thanks

    There's no get out of the current quarantine. Even getting the test done and passing you can still have the virus and not have any symptoms or you could catch it in transit. You'd need to do the test when they land and a week later, after the person has quarantined, to be certain that they are clear. But currently that's not the procedure from our government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    There's no quarantine, the government says you should 'restrict movement'. So don't work or visit old people, but you can exercise outside etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    Hi There

    Would anyone know where I could get access to a covid-19 test. Am willing to pay to get it done privately. Its for someone coming from Germany. I'm thinking if he could get a test done, it would remove the need to quarantine for the 14 days ... would quarantine until he gets a (hopefully) negative result.

    Thanks

    Isolate them. The test will prove nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Northern lassie


    Tig98 wrote: »
    Negative result does not negate the need for quarantine. No one cares if he tests negative when he comes home because he could have caught it in Germany, either airport, on the plane or on the bus in Dublin.

    Hence why you isolate for two weeks. You may not by symptomatic at the time of arrival but you may develop symptoms by the end of the two week period.

    No need for a test, just wait out the two weeks.

    So what people are saying is that when a person is "cooking" the virus in the early days and they don't have symptoms, and a test is taken it will be negative? Is that right? If so, I didn't know that!!

    Oranage2 There's no quarantine, the government says you should 'restrict movement'. So don't work or visit old people, but you can exercise outside etc

    Surely a person has to quarantine?? So if someone was in my house having just come from Germany, should they not stay in their bedroom for 14 days? That's going to be pretty tough to do .... and stay away from the rest of us in the house?


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Threads merged


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Hi There

    Would anyone know where I could get access to a covid-19 test. Am willing to pay to get it done privately. Its for someone coming from Germany. I'm thinking if he could get a test done, it would remove the need to quarantine for the 14 days ... would quarantine until he gets a (hopefully) negative result.

    Thanks

    Tropical medical Bureau do them for €160 https://www.tmb.ie/coronavirus-self-test-kits

    Germany will be on the green list next week anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


    Hi There

    Would anyone know where I could get access to a covid-19 test. Am willing to pay to get it done privately. Its for someone coming from Germany. I'm thinking if he could get a test done, it would remove the need to quarantine for the 14 days ... would quarantine until he gets a (hopefully) negative result.

    Thanks

    The acting CMO mentioned in this evenings briefing that we shouldn’t be paying for a test and it will discourage people from actually getting tested. If the person is coming from Germany why can’t they get a free test?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    So what people are saying is that when a person is "cooking" the virus in the early days and they don't have symptoms, and a test is taken it will be negative? Is that right? If so, I didn't know that!!

    Oranage2 There's no quarantine, the government says you should 'restrict movement'. So don't work or visit old people, but you can exercise outside etc

    Surely a person has to quarantine?? So if someone was in my house having just come from Germany, should they not stay in their bedroom for 14 days? That's going to be pretty tough to do .... and stay away from the rest of us in the house?

    stay in a bedroom?! lol.

    the HSE site says restrict movement, not be a hermit.

    tests are about 160e and if its for work msot jobs wont accept them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Trump says he expects a vaccine within the next few months and “very likely” by the end of the year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Trump says he expects a vaccine within the next few months and “very likely” by the end of the year

    Is this meant to be encouraging?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Trump says he expects a vaccine within the next few months and “very likely” by the end of the year

    How much does that have to do with reality and how much with his reelection prospects?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Trump says he expects a vaccine within the next few months and “very likely” by the end of the year


    He's not the only one. it will happen sooner rather than later. Need to hang in there for 3 or 4 months more, I believe it's closer than Mcconkey and co would have you believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    How much does that have to do with reality and how much with his reelection prospects?

    I found that he’s fairly tuned in with vaccine/treatment timelines


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    He's not the only one. it will happen sooner rather than later. Need to hang in there for 3 or 4 months more, I believe it's closer than Mcconkey and co would have you believe.

    Kingston Mills is the guy I listen to most intently when he's taking about vaccines or anything else to do with Covid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    Azatadine wrote: »
    Kingston Mills is the guy I listen to most intently when he's taking about vaccines or anything else to do with Covid.

    What is he saying??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,404 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    THere will be a vaccine, but successful stage 3 trials are only one step in the process, it would be 6 months before you could relax restrictions. There is a danger of someone getting a vaccine in early December and party season breaking out over Christmas with many deaths in January.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Trump is right - there likely will be an approved vaccine before the end of the year.

    What there won't be is a vaccinated US with life returned to normal and some of the catastrophic damage the pandemic has done reversed. As per usual, it'll be upto the incoming Democrat to clean up the mess like 2008.

    The vaccine isn't the silver bullet he reckons it is.


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