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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #7892
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    petes wrote: »
    There are cases in sports clubs, literally.

    How many? Life cant stop because a club with 500 members has one case. We need to live with this thing and adapt. We wont learn until we face that fact.


  • #7893
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    I don't understand the shock and uproar that some people have over this.

    It's been happening all over Europe/UK.


  • #7894
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    road_high wrote: »
    Not closing down places where there’s been no spread as I already stated. Not this blunt shut it all down rubbish
    Don't be ridiculous. I'm known as a 'sugarcoater' in here and even your argument sounds silly.


  • #7895
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    froog wrote: »
    they're not punishing anyone ffs, just trying to limit any spread. this isn't nazi germany.

    If they want to limit spread they should probably look into why so many people in mean factories are unwilling to call in sick if they have symptoms of Covid... But that would mean looking into employment rights and that’s too difficult for them.


  • #7896
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    There's an issue in Kildare, Laois and Offaly... It is being dealt with. There's not much else to say. 49% of cases in last 2 weeks from those 3 counties.

    I am saying we should avoid future cases. We have a very very obvious weak point in our system and everyones attitude is its grand? It happened there but can't happen near me?


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  • #7897
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    road_high wrote: »
    Not closing down places where there’s been no spread as I already stated. Not this blunt shut it all down rubbish

    Thankfully you are not in charge.


  • #7898
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    petes wrote: »
    I don't understand the shock and uproar that some people have over this.

    It's been happening all over Europe/UK.
    County pride is playing a part here.
    "My county and our neighbours with 49% of cases in the last 2 weeks? Never!"


  • #7899
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    How will a zero covid approach work? What needs to be done for a zero covid approach?

    Just going to put on the dinner but I’ll point you in right direction.
    It’s by no means an easy option but it works.

    Check this out. Uk will prob go for it soon enough if whack a mole doesn’t work.
    So common travel area and NI border wouldn’t be an issue.

    https://twitter.com/zerocovidisland/status/1291757146955304960?s=21


  • #7900
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,674 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    smelly sock wrote: »
    How many? Life cant stop because a club with 500 members has one case. We need to live with this thing and adapt. We wont learn until we face that fact.

    Try living in other people's shoes?? Vulnerable people for example


  • #7901
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    smelly sock wrote: »
    How many? Life cant stop because a club with 500 members has one case. We need to live with this thing and adapt. We wont learn until we face that fact.

    According to your uninformed nonsense there are literally none, I was just correcting you.


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  • #7902
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    smelly sock wrote: »
    How many? Life cant stop because a club with 500 members has one case. We need to live with this thing and adapt. We wont learn until we face that fact.

    Localised lock downs is living with it and adapting... it means the whole country can get on with things while areas with spikes are dealt with


  • #7903
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Christy42 wrote: »
    I am saying we should avoid future cases. We have a very very obvious weak point in our system and everyones attitude is its grand? It happened there but can't happen near me?
    There's already measures in place in factories. They clearly weren't followed in Kildare, Laois and Offaly.


  • #7904
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    How will a zero covid approach work? What needs to be done for a zero covid approach?
    It's not actually zero COVID at all, that's not really feasible. It's as low as possible, aggressively contact trace, isolate and then do these kinds of shutdowns as required. Very much heading towards the disease being worse than the disease territory though as nobody will say how low or for how long.


  • #7905
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Mental Mickey wrote: »
    Try living in other people's shoes?? Vulnerable people for example

    Can they not lockdown and cocoon though?


  • #7906
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Don't be ridiculous. I'm known as a 'sugarcoater' in here and even your argument sounds silly.

    What’s ridiculous is closing places where there is no spread. On what parallel universe does this not make sense?
    By jaysus there’s a big price to be paid for all this kind of nonsense and it’s going to be severe.


  • #7907
    Mr rebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Mr rebel


    The Virgin Media news map of Ireland with Cork plastered in red and thus marking it as a virus hotspot along with the 3 midland counties is absolutely ridiculous and straight up wrong.


  • #7908
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    smelly sock wrote: »
    GAA amd sports shouldnt be stopped. There are literally no cases in relation to that.

    Whats the plan? Lockdown everytime there is a cluster because of bad practices in a meat factory?

    Ah lad come on, Ireland is a very small place, there's already multiple clubs have suspended activities because a member or their family has had a confirmed case. In Kildare, Offaly and Laois, the likelihood of any member of a club coming into contact with someone from those factories is worryingly likely. There has been no cases YET, don't you think it should be kept that way instead of needlessly creating risk? All for the sake of two weeks without activity. Remember these are AMATEUR players.

    It's an amateur sport, everything needs to be done to suppress risk, for the sake of two weeks until things die down, they can manage just fine.


  • #7909
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    road_high wrote: »
    What’s ridiculous is closing places where there is no spread. On what parallel universe does this not make sense?
    By jaysus there’s a big price to be paid for all this kind of nonsense and it’s going to be severe.
    What county are you from?


  • #7910
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Mr rebel wrote: »
    The Virgin Media news map of Ireland with Cork plastered in red and thus marking it as a virus hotspot along with the 3 midland counties is absolutely ridiculous and straight up wrong.
    I noticed the same tbh


  • #7911
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,164 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Christy42 wrote: »
    I am saying we should avoid future cases. We have a very very obvious weak point in our system and everyones attitude is its grand? It happened there but can't happen near me?

    I think everyone can agree to that. No I don't everyone attitude is its grand. Including myself I've seen many posts last night talking about a need to address the issue in meat factories. I wonder would widespread testing of meat processing plants in the country not be a wise move now to get ahead of any issues elsewhere ?


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  • #7912
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Just going to put on the dinner but I’ll point you in right direction.
    It’s by no means an easy option but it works.

    Check this out. Uk will prob go for it soon enough if whack a mole doesn’t work.
    So common travel area and NI border wouldn’t be an issue.

    https://twitter.com/zerocovidisland/status/1291757146955304960?s=21

    Serious opportunity missed, we could be heading into this weekend with the whole lot open and not a worry in anyone's head. So close to elimination but I wonder how the EU would have taken a decision to go that direction.


  • #7913
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    road_high wrote: »
    It’s reactionary nuts panic. Closing down stiff where there had been no spread whatsoever.
    God help the local social welfare office staff too. They’re going to be swamped again. Utterly crazy blunt instrument. M Martin is an absolute donkey

    There'll also be very poor buy-in from the public this time around. People can see now exactly who the virus affects. They realise that if they aren't very elderly or vulnerable that not only will they not die, they are unlikely to be very sick and they may actually asymptomatic. The failure of this local lockdown could be the beginning of resistance to the restrictions.


  • #7914
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Can they not lockdown and cocoon though?

    No seemingly not these people are incapable of self preservation so everyone else must suffer too. All in it together and all that brainwashing you’ve heard for 6 months


  • #7915
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    smelly sock wrote: »
    GAA amd sports shouldnt be stopped. There are literally no cases in relation to that.

    Whats the plan? Lockdown everytime there is a cluster because of bad practices in a meat factory?

    I cannot fathom at this stage how people still do not understand the mechanics of COVID. Of course GAA and sports in the local are should be stopped.


  • #7916
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    road_high wrote: »
    What’s ridiculous is closing places where there is no spread. On what parallel universe does this not make sense?
    By jaysus there’s a big price to be paid for all this kind of nonsense and it’s going to be severe.

    No spread YET. Don't you think it should be kept that way? You can't just view a cinema for example and say "oh there hasn't been a case in any cinemas yet" but thirty people in a cinema is a gathering of thirty people and I'm sure there has been numerous cases related to thirty people in one place.


  • #7917
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It's not actually zero COVID at all, that's not really feasible. It's as low as possible, aggressively contact trace, isolate and then do these kinds of shutdowns as required. Very much heading towards the disease being worse than the disease territory though as nobody will say how low or for how long.

    Well it isn’t now is it? Nice muddying / confounding.
    You kinda left out travel quarantine.
    Like a real quarantine, not advertising to visit here for most infected place on the planet.
    Or incentivising people to go abroad by not cancelling flights.


  • #7918
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    There's already measures in place in factories. They clearly weren't followed in Kildare, Laois and Offaly.

    Are they being followed elsewhere? Are we checking?

    Because they obviously weren't checking in these 3 counties so why are we so sure about everywhere else?


  • #7919
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    What county are you from?

    I live in Kilkenny. Literally 20 km from the “hotspot”.


  • #7920
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1291779857567932417?s=20


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  • #7921
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Are they being followed elsewhere? Are we checking?

    Because they obviously weren't checking in these 3 counties so why are we so sure about everywhere else?
    They clearly are if there's no issues anywhere else. Why don't you email the HSA instead of asking on here?


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