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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    I'd imagine Kildare, Laois and Offaly will be placed on a regional lockdown with the hope of getting things sorted before schools reopen. The real disaster would be if schools couldn't open. The decision really needs to be made today.

    Problem with government is it changes tack like an oil tanker.
    3 months to even say face masks won't kill you.
    4 to say we should wear them.
    Doubt the ship will turn enough before September.

    If I lived there I wouldn't be waiting to be told to lockdown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    I sense panic in the government tbh like a deer in the headlights.

    Right now i'd say it's 50/50 if the schools open at all this year. They had a chance yesterday to show real leadership and lock down the areas with clusters but they failed to act swiftly in fact they decided to go on holidays last week.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    I'd imagine Kildare, Laois and Offaly will be placed on a regional lockdown with the hope of getting things sorted before schools reopen. The real disaster would be if schools couldn't open. The decision really needs to be made today.

    If schools couldn't open for a year for kids, what's the impact really in the long term in terms of education? I would certainly have sympathy for the parents though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    I wonder where we are getting this sporadic community transmission?
    I mean where is it coming from?
    Staycations?

    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1291479357358247936?s=20


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    If schools couldn't open for a year for kids, what's the impact really in the long term in terms of education? I would certainly have sympathy for the parents though!

    Really huge impact, particularly for kids from less privileged backgrounds.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    If schools couldn't open for a year for kids, what's the impact really in the long term in terms of education? I would certainly have sympathy for the parents though!

    The impact on their social skills as well as their education will be huge. I'm a parent of a 13yo and believe it or not they are moving into portacabins at the end of the month because they've no other place to teach the kids. We can't even get any information on the size of the portacabins and neither can the teachers so right now talk of social distancing in the school is farcical.

    My young one is fine and coping alright but other kids her age are struggling big time and i pity the ones who's parents in reality don't give a hoot about them and just want them out of their hair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    To inject some sense of optimism, the worldwide case numbers are on a downward trend. From a peak of 290k cases/day last week it's at 280k as of yesterday and the trend is downward.

    Given that it's now virtually everywhere on the planet and everyone is testing to beat the band, this gives me quiet optimism that we're passed the global peak. This one anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    I wonder where we are getting this sporadic community transmission?
    I mean where is it coming from?
    Staycations?

    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1291479357358247936?s=20

    Aside the 28K from the UK, there’s 43K per week from non green list countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    seamus wrote: »
    To inject some sense of optimism, the worldwide case numbers are on a downward trend. From a peak of 290k cases/day last week it's at 280k as of yesterday and the trend is downward.

    Given that it's now virtually everywhere on the planet and everyone is testing to beat the band, this gives me quiet optimism that we're passed the global peak. This one anyway.

    Optimism is always welcome, that is some good news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    seamus wrote: »
    To inject some sense of optimism, the worldwide case numbers are on a downward trend. From a peak of 290k cases/day last week it's at 280k as of yesterday and the trend is downward.

    Given that it's now virtually everywhere on the planet and everyone is testing to beat the band, this gives me quiet optimism that we're passed the global peak. This one anyway.

    I hope you are right.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,880 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I sense panic in the government tbh like a deer in the headlights.

    Right now i'd say it's 50/50 if the schools open at all this year. They had a chance yesterday to show real leadership and lock down the areas with clusters but they failed to act swiftly in fact they decided to go on holidays last week.

    No leadership because the political decision makers don’t have and never had the stones to stand up to business, EU and other vested interests in this country. They are not all of a sudden just going to grow a pair.

    The ordinary, IRISH person, the ordinary tax payers whose country this is... this is OUR country and we are about third in terms of thought and consideration and action from our own so called elected representatives... the ordinary citizen must wait in line behind...

    Big business.

    People seeking to immigrate here.


    Then we can think about what’s best for the honest Irish person. We have seen the behavior of big business, refusing to be part of a solution...only interested in profit.

    Immigration is still happening,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,525 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    spookwoman wrote: »
    In general, you have no legal right to be paid while you are on sick leave from work. However, employers can decide their own policy on sick leave and may decide to pay you while you are off sick. Your employer must give you written information about their sick leave policy.

    there are other options though and to be honest during a pandemic it's pretty selfish to continue working if there is a chance you are infected.

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/leave_and_holidays/sick_leave.html


    it is and yet people still do it so that's why you create situation where money isn't an issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    seamus wrote: »
    To inject some sense of optimism, the worldwide case numbers are on a downward trend. From a peak of 290k cases/day last week it's at 280k as of yesterday and the trend is downward.

    Given that it's now virtually everywhere on the planet and everyone is testing to beat the band, this gives me quiet optimism that we're passed the global peak. This one anyway.

    I know the US have reduced their testing capacity in the last few weeks. Could be part of that downward trend...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    94 positive swabs yesterday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE

    Tests conducted last 24 hours: 4980
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 25043
    Additional positive tests: 94
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 1.6%


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Boggles wrote: »
    The conditions at direct provision have been flagged for years.

    Farmers have flagged the race to the bottom in meat pricing for years.

    All ignored.

    Chickens are coming home to roost.

    The fumbling and fúcking around for decades is going to cost us.

    Overcrowded schools back next. Flagged for fúcking years.

    But shure who could have seen it coming.

    The schools are going to be a fcuking nightmare because of parents making up their own rules. I was reading a different forum and children are coming home from nursery with colds. Some parents are witnessing colds and temperatures and sending their children in regardless. They don't care. They just want to offload their children.

    Tony said the days of going to work and school with colds are over. Make no mistake about it. When schools open colds are going to spread and also this virus will probably spread alongside it too. Parents will be rewriting the rules to suit themselves and sending their kids into school with 'just a little cold'. My understanding is that covid can start of as a cold.

    The message needs to be hammered home now - do not go to work or school with a cold. Yesterdays meeting and Philip Nolan said we all bear a responsibility going forward to suppress this virus or something on them words.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    If asymptomatic is so prevalent, presumably it is in the community a fair bit more than figures suggest? What % of the population has got it since it started do people think (or know)? And is any testing done on positive cases for antibodies etc. as a formal process to see how this works?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,323 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is racing back at the Curragh? I thought it was being used for testing and care hospital for isolating, the army barracks?


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    owlbethere wrote: »
    The schools are going to be a fcuking nightmare because of parents making up their own rules. I was reading a different forum and children are coming home from nursery with colds. Some parents are witnessing colds and temperatures and sending their children in regardless. They don't care. They just want to offload their children.

    Tony said the days of going to work and school with colds are over. Make no mistake about it. When schools open colds are going to spread and also this virus will probably spread alongside it too. Parents will be rewriting the rules to suit themselves and sending their kids into school with 'just a little cold'. My understanding is that covid can start of as a cold.

    The message needs to be hammered home now - do not go to work or school with a cold. Yesterdays meeting and Philip Nolan said we all bear a responsibility going forward to suppress this virus or something on them words.

    Have to agree with this. Fretting about an extra hour in the pub from 11pm, while being ok with regular meetings of numbers of people in relatively confined spaces....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    owlbethere wrote: »
    The schools are going to be a fcuking nightmare because of parents making up their own rules. I was reading a different forum and children are coming home from nursery with colds. Some parents are witnessing colds and temperatures and sending their children in regardless. They don't care. They just want to offload their children.

    Tony said the days of going to work and school with colds are over. Make no mistake about it. When schools open colds are going to spread and also this virus will probably spread alongside it too. Parents will be rewriting the rules to suit themselves and sending their kids into school with 'just a little cold'. My understanding is that covid can start of as a cold.

    The message needs to be hammered home now - do not go to work or school with a cold. Yesterdays meeting and Philip Nolan said we all bear a responsibility going forward to suppress this virus or something on them words.

    Crèches around us are sending teething children home and are being told to keep them out for 14 days plus a Negative covid test results is needed before they’ll be let back again. Will be a nightmare for working parents but what can be done. Depends on how strict your crèche/ school is in enforcing the rules but I can foresee crèches outright refusing to take kids who are being sent in regularly sick and TBH that should always have been the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭techdiver


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE

    Tests conducted last 24 hours: 4980
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 25043
    Additional positive tests: 94
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 1.6%

    Where do you find these figures?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    techdiver wrote: »
    Where do you find these figures?

    Covid dashboard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Tonight's figures are going to be astronomical based on the 60 from yesterday and the information from ACE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE

    Tests conducted last 24 hours: 4980
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 25043
    Additional positive tests: 94
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 1.6%

    So out of 25k tested 1.6 percent have it. And of that 1.6 % 1% will die.

    Clown world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭scargill


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is racing back at the Curragh? I thought it was being used for testing and care hospital for isolating, the army barracks?

    Racing is on at the Curragh - wasn't used as a test centre.

    There was a test centre at Newbridge Community College - but that closed a few months ago....might need to open it up again soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Tonight's figures are going to be astronomical based on the 60 from yesterday and the information from ACE.

    60 is included in the positive swabs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    60 is included in the positive swabs.

    My bad! Even still looks like we're going to creep over the 100 pretty soom


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Onesea wrote: »
    So out of 25k tested 1.6 percent have it. And of that 1.6 % 1% will die.

    Clown world

    What's it to you anyway if you live in Norway or wherever it is?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    How did we not see this coming. Oh yeah we did. IN MAY!!!!!
    He got shot down as doom monger.
    Accused of smearing.
    That minister needs to be held to account if we can't send kids to school.
    Integrity called into question.
    Who's integrity is intact now?

    Where have I seen this type of interaction before?

    https://twitter.com/paulmurphy_TD/status/1256904837763002370?s=20


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