Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I thought every county was meant to have a testing centre

They closed down a fair few of them AFAIK.

Either way they need to get one back up and running there.

Also a swift ban on all nursing home visits.

Should also get the testing teams in to do a sweep of them.

Boggles wrote: »

I may have identified a problem in Kildare.

If this is true a it’s crazy situation, they had a huge one on the grounds of a hospital in Portlaoise and I don’t think they used it ( now taken down) .
If people in kildare are expected to travel into Dublin City for a test they are definitely going to get a large number not going for testing or people who just can’t go ..
curragh camp is plenty big why not set up a test centre in there?

harr wrote: »

If this is true a it’s crazy situation, they had a huge one on the grounds of a hospital in Portlaoise and I don’t think they used it ( now taken down) .
If people in kildare are expected to travel into Dublin City for a test they are definitely going to get a large number not going for testing or people who just can’t go ..
curragh camp is plenty big why not set up a test centre in there?

That would require effort on the HSEs part

Christy42 wrote: »

Is there actually an issue in Kildare or are they just trying to be seen to do something but don't want to treat people in direct provision like people?

Like really. There have been clusters so they are just going to force people involved to stay at home in cramped conditions meanwhile the rest of kildare gets shut down for no reason. Deal with the clusters. Put in place policies that allow sick people to separate and cases can be contained without shutting the place down. This will shut the place down and let the virus hit more people.

It won't let the virus hit more people, they'll all be expected to stay at home so no movement unless essential.

The virus can spread beyong initial clusters and I think the cat is already out of the bag. These workers didn't live in these factories, they did live lives outside.

Christy42 wrote: »

Is there actually an issue in Kildare or are they just trying to be seen to do something but don't want to treat people in direct provision like people?

The issue is as they said at the press conference yesterday, that there is a large reservoir of disease in certain areas, and a large number of infected people being detected. It's more than just the direct provision centres involved, and they may even be the easier places to deal with.

When you have hundreds of people with the disease, there is no way the contact tracers can trace everyone they have had contact with. Maybe they've been to pubs, restaurants, shops etc.

The whole point of the strategy was to find clusters fast, contact trace and suppress the virus that way. It sounds like these particular clusters may have got too big too fast, and that strategy might not work in this case.

Beanybabog wrote: »

A local lockdown sounds a bit pointless- lock down counties of people where there’s no community transmission, but force the sick people to stay in direct provision centres and infect everyone else?

I believe the sick people in the direct provision centres were moved elsewhere.

Christy42 wrote: »

I believe they do have lives outside the factories. For instance families and neighbours. Especially those living in direct provision who have less space to properly isolate. Will anything be done about that or are we avoiding that question?

The conditions at direct provision centres is another topic of conversation altogether. I was only giving reasoning for local lockdown.

The conditions are as they are now and that's something we have to deal with but the task at hand now is limiting this outbreak.

Not everyone working in these meat factories are from direct provision centres.. a lot are living local or in neighbouring towns and all were mingling in what ever communities they were living in.
I personally know 3 or 4 lads working in kildare town all married men with extended families locally.
So this definitely could a big community transmission if a lot of the workers had no symptoms.

harr wrote: »

Not everyone working in these meat factories are from direct provision centres.. a lot are living local or in neighbouring towns and all were mingling in what ever communities they were living in.
I personally know 3 or 4 lads working in kildare town all married men with extended families locally.
So this definitely could a big community transmission if a lot of the workers had no symptoms.

They could have been in the shops in Dublin to. Get testing relatives and see if there is any. Meanwhile until we put money into the actual issue of the factories and direct provision centers this will just get worse.

Not like we can say we had no warning on the issue.

But sure lock down the County and forget about the rest and you damn well know that will happen.

Boggles wrote: »

The conditions at direct provision have been flagged for years.

Farmers have flagged the race to the bottom in meat pricing for years.

All ignored.

Chickens are coming home to roost.

The fumbling and fúcking around for decades is going to cost us.

Overcrowded schools back next. Flagged for fúcking years.

But shure who could have seen it coming.

The mind boggles Boggles

D.Q wrote: »

The mind boggles Boggles

A truly original statement.

Fair play to you.

Cabinet meeting 3pm, NPHET has made recommendations to be considered

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Good question! It's from a little known process which involves talking to other members of the public, socialising with them occasionally, and hearing that some people are doing it.



How do you 'know' that the Brady's ham is not safe?

I was joking. I wipe supermarket purchases down anyway...