Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

ShineOn7 · 04-08-2020 08:33PM

prunudo wrote: »

The best way for shops to police mandatory face coverings is to offer 10% discount to all wearers. Be quick enough to get people to be compliant.

That's a great idea actually

More savvy businesses will go 20% and get some positive free PR on Socail Media, local press etc

I can see this happening with businesses who really need people back in their doors and who already had strong enough margins that they can take a 10-20% hit

Speak Now · 04-08-2020 08:33PM

Gibraltar, Monaco and San Marino being on and off of green lists shows what clowns are running this country.

thelad95 · 04-08-2020 08:34PM

harr wrote: »

The government advisory was to wear masks two weeks ago while they drafted up the legal stuff, that normally takes a few weeks the same as masks on all public transport it’s was only advised at first till it became legal.
So for this Monday the 10th the wearing of masks is legally enforceable in all shop and shopping centres .
So that means if you are in shop for 5 minutes or 5 hours a mask has to be worn and like the public transport I am sure they will be doing spot checks.

Who exactly is going to police this? Probably an increased Garda presence at first with some ridiculous operation name stamped on it but then what after that?

04-08-2020 08:34PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

That's a great idea actually

More savvy businesses will go 20% and get some positive free PR on Socail Media, local press etc

I can see this happening with businesses who really need people back in their doors and who already had strong enough margins that they can take a 10-20% hit

Not many businesses have 10 to 20% margins that they can play with

ACitizenErased · 04-08-2020 08:35PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

A huge amount of people are completely in denial about this situation, including the sugarcoaters in this thread

Sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la! la! la!" is the behavior of a child

You love to talk about sugarcoaters yet couldn't back up any of your claims earlier today....

Onesea · 04-08-2020 08:36PM

What was the fate of the construction workers who tested positive a few weeks back? I think there was a few different building sites that had issues.

Can't help but worry. Things are going to go haywire.
Anyone with a brain in their head could see right through this "government"

ACitizenErased · 04-08-2020 08:36PM

Speak Now wrote: »

Gibraltar, Monaco and San Marino being on and off of green lists shows what clowns are running this country.

Today's cases:
Gibraltar +1
Monaco +2
Malta +16

Whopping figures

KaneToad · 04-08-2020 08:37PM

harr wrote: »

The government advisory was to wear masks two weeks ago while they drafted up the legal stuff, that normally takes a few weeks the same as masks on all public transport it’s was only advised at first till it became legal.
So for this Monday the 10th the wearing of masks is legally enforceable in all shop and shopping centres .
So that means if you are in shop for 5 minutes or 5 hours a mask has to be worn and like the public transport I am sure they will be doing spot checks.

A mask or a face covering?

ShineOn7 · 04-08-2020 08:37PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

You know it’s a lot cheaper to buy alcohol outside of pubs, in supermarkets etc?

Of course. But the point remains that people are caring more about pubs than schools

There isn't enough room in the R0 number for both. NPHT ran the numbers and they didn't like what they saw

I don't think non restaurant pubs are opening in 2020, and people should start accepting that and look for social outlets elsewhere

04-08-2020 08:38PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

That's a great idea actually

More savvy businesses will go 20% and get some positive free PR on Socail Media, local press etc

I can see this happening with businesses who really need people back in their doors and who already had strong enough margins that they can take a 10-20% hit

You're actually mental. No business is going to do that. I don't know where you've been but mask compliance is 80%+ in all the stores I've been to, why in the world would they start giving a discount for it?

Speak Now · 04-08-2020 08:38PM

prunudo wrote: »

The best way for shops to police mandatory face coverings is to offer 10% discount to all wearers. Be quick enough to get people to be compliant.

Are masks still subject to VAT?? Because if they are it shows how our government are only going through the motions. Big Bad pubs, how about they close the factories with clusters. Our factory is so stringent, had 1 case and even though we had strict social distancing in every operation every potential close contact was tested. Not one more positive test when results returned!

ACitizenErased · 04-08-2020 08:39PM

People who think the pubs being closed will have a positive impact on schools are delusional. The plan for opening schools looks like it was written by a 12 year old. It's a shambles.

niallo27 · 04-08-2020 08:39PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Of course. But the point remains that people are caring more about pubs than schools

There isn't enough room in the R0 number for both. NPHT ran the numbers and they didn't like what they saw

I don't think non restaurant pubs are opening in 2020, and people should start accepting that and look for social outlets elsewhere

House parties baby!!!!!!! Great idea

ShineOn7 · 04-08-2020 08:39PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You love to talk about sugarcoaters yet couldn't back up any of your claims earlier today....

Ah, tis the chief sugarcoater himself

What are you on about now?

What claims?

JTMan · 04-08-2020 08:40PM

Has EVERYTHING in Phase 4 been pushed back to 1 September?

- The reopening of offices was supposed to be allowed from 10 August. Is that pushed back?
- The reopening of colleges was supposed to be allowed from 10 August. Is that pushed back?
- The reopening of schools was supposed to be allowed from 10 August. Is that pushed back?

Thanks.

ShineOn7 · 04-08-2020 08:41PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

People who think the pubs being closed will have a positive impact on schools are delusional. The plan for opening schools looks like it was written by a 12 year old. It's a shambles.

Aren't you only 19 years old yourself though?

Hardly in the position of life experience to pontificate on here the way you do day in, day out

Widdensushi · 04-08-2020 08:41PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Of course. But the point remains that people are caring more about pubs than schools

There isn't enough room in the R0 number for both. NPHT ran the numbers and they didn't like what they saw

I don't think non restaurant pubs are opening in 2020, and people should start accepting that and look for social outlets elsewhere

I could see a good few opening doing food now, it's one thing saying we can hang on a month to open, it's another thinking this will last till next year so we need to find a way to open or shut permanently

hmmm · 04-08-2020 08:41PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I don't think non restaurant pubs are opening in 2020, and people should start accepting that and look for social outlets elsewhere

Agreed, that's the unfortunate reality. Government needs to stop promising what it knows it can't deliver (pubs, nightclubs, big weddings, large outdoor events), and start working on how we can help those industries out until we get control of the virus, presumably helped by a vaccine.

ACitizenErased · 04-08-2020 08:42PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Ah, tis the chief sugarcoater himself

What are you on about now?

What claims?

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I hope I'm very wrong but I think we'll see near 100 cases tomorrow

The only question is how many of them are from the Kildare factory and how many are from community transmission

It's a rise in community transmission I'm worried about

You never answered any of the replies as to what you're basing that on.

Muscles Schultz · 04-08-2020 08:43PM

froog wrote: »

we need to go back to full lockdown for a few weeks at least to nip this in the bud.

#lockdownharder

Speak Now · 04-08-2020 08:43PM

JTMan wrote: »

Has EVERYTHING in Phase 4 been pushed back to 1 September?

- The reopening of offices was supposed to be allowed from 10 August. Is that pushed back?
- The reopening of colleges was supposed to be allowed from 10 August. Is that pushed back?
- The reopening of schools was supposed to be allowed from 10 August. Is that pushed back?

Thanks.

Offices haven't been closed have they?

fr336 · 04-08-2020 08:46PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Could you not just let it go after the mod posted? Everyone else has managed to.

No i wont let it go as it irritates me in real life when people make a massive drama when they gang up on you but when theyre the ones being called out its all lets move on its dealt with etc. Hypocrites everwhere. I will say no more and keep reporting. Tbh i missed all the drama in recent days, been busy getting my hair cut, down the gym and socialising. Pretty good for a curtain twitcher eh

Rebelbrowser · 04-08-2020 08:47PM

Speak Now wrote: »

Offices haven't been closed have they?

Well they weren't supposed to open unless work couldn't be done remotely. That was to ease in phase 4. Small offices are fully open but all the big accountants and law offices are working from home save for essential staff (finance dept, IT dept, etc).

Kh1993 · 04-08-2020 08:47PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Aren't you only 19 years old yourself though?

Hardly in the position of life experience to pontificate on here the way you do day in, day out

Ask any teacher or education worker in any of the Covid threads and they’ll tell you it’s a sh*tshow.

It’s a big messy mix of some rules apply, some don’t. But in some situations then the rules do apply. But in some, they don’t.

growleaves · 04-08-2020 08:49PM

Ah, tis the chief sugarcoater himself

The restrictions are themselves sugarcoated. Like a comment earlier that said society could function long-term without pubs re-opening and people could meet acquaintances in gardens and parks (thanked by 13 posters).

Newsflash: if you demolish social structures by fiat and don't replace them with anything, you have a disintegrating society. These restrictions have taken all the worst trends in social atomisation, accelerated them, and made them sacrosanct. Anyone trying to make this unsustainable state of affairs permanent, in the name of public health, must have a black and bleak sense of humour. Lots of people with a weird grudge against alcohol and the Vintners have decided they're along for the ride.

Covid has all-but disappeared and we are now holding our foot on the neck of civil society to prevent a hypothetical resurgence.

Beasty · 04-08-2020 08:49PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Aren't you only 19 years old yourself though?

Hardly in the position of life experience to pontificate on here the way you do day in, day out

Threadbanned again - and this time don't think you can start threads that really belong in here to circumvent it

JTMan · 04-08-2020 08:50PM

Speak Now wrote: »

Offices haven't been closed have they?

Offices were not allowed reopen until 10 August unless staff were essential workers AND could not work from home. (Bar some small exceptions). It always made sense that reopening offices was the last phase. If people can work from home they should work from home and responsible good employers should insist on it.

Anyone know if office reopenings (and college and schools) are pushed back to 1 September?

fritzelly · 04-08-2020 08:52PM

JTMan wrote: »

Offices were not allowed reopen until 10 August unless staff were essential workers AND could not work from home. (Bar some small exceptions). It always made sense that reopening offices was the last phase. If people can work from home they should work from home and responsible good employers should insist on it.

Anyone know if office reopenings (and college and schools) are pushed back to 1 September?

It was never mentioned in the press briefing - probably didn't even look at it, but seeing as everything else in Phase 4 is delayed...

ACitizenErased · 04-08-2020 08:53PM

Did they say that the masks in shops were going into law? I missed the press conference. Who's enforcing it?

Renjit · 04-08-2020 08:55PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Meanwhile in Europe, Danes have stalled Phase 4 , German cases up, Greece highest cases in weeks and French on the verge of losing control again.

What the doom meerkat merchant :pac:

Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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