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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #5222
    [Deleted User]
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    That’s good news. I’ll edit my post


  • #5223
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Polar101 wrote: »
    According to their Facebook page it is not true.

    https://www.facebook.com/flanneryshotel/

    "Contrary to recent fake news,
    Flannery’s Hotel Galway is OPEN,
    has been OPEN and will remain OPEN!
    There has been NO outbreak of Covid-19
    and all our hardworking staff are safe."

    Just goes to show - when you get dodgy information on Whatsapp, its not difficult to take a couple of minutes to verify


  • #5224
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Ce he sin wrote: »
    Hopefully they will continue so but you do realise that there's a lag between a person becoming infected and being hospitalised, right? It will take a while for the recent upsurge in infections to be reflected in hospitalisation numbers.

    The median age of the recent cases are a lot lower than previously, which should translate to less hospitalisation.


  • #5225
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,720 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    schmoo2k wrote:
    The median age of the recent cases are a lot lower than previously, which should translate to less hospitalisation.

    You hope.


  • #5226
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,720 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    So whose sending their kids back to school?
    I'm definitely not. I'll wait 8 weeks and see how things are going.


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  • #5227
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    The median age of the recent cases are a lot lower than previously, which should translate to less hospitalisation.

    Not to sound like an evil mad scientist or anything but I think this will be interesting/informative to watch in the shorter term. The older demographic seem to be maintaining a precautionary approach. This is like when unofficial lockdowns happened in populations 2 weeks in advance of govt lockdowns as studies showed. It is similar I think in Sweden whereby certain populations unofficially "mind themselves".
    Anyway numbers have been higher for a couple of weeks in younger demographic - I think not just in Ireland. From what I have seen increase in hospitalisation is more than 2 weeks post increase in cases. People fight with the disease for a few weeks and it either is beat or worsens. So I think it will be over the next while that we will know more.

    Also re people saying it is meat plants or construction sites or DP Centres etc that are problems, I think it is just going to keep on being something. Clusters will keep on emerging. Pubs. Creches. Schools. Parties. Funerals. The only thing the virus needs is people. It is not fussy about venue.

    The well run testing and tracing is a great advantage we have now over earlier times.


  • #5228
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    eagle eye wrote: »
    So whose sending their kids back to school?
    I'm definitely not. I'll wait 8 weeks and see how things are going.

    You'll find yourself in trouble in the law if you don't send your kids to school for 8 weeks.


  • #5229
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You hope.

    We all hope it leads to less hospitalization,who wouldn't?


  • #5230
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    No you won't.

    Article 42 of the Constitution of Ireland:

    "1: The State acknowledges that the primary and natural educator of the child is the Family and guarantees to respect the inalienable right and duty of parents to provide, according to their means, for the religious and moral, intellectual, physical and social education of their children.

    2: Parents shall be free to provide this education in their homes or in private schools or in schools recognised or established by the State.


  • #5231
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You hope.

    Hope, Really? Actually its based on previous age profiles of those who needed hospitalisation (and subsequently ICU).


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  • #5232
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    eagle eye wrote: »
    So whose sending their kids back to school?
    I'm definitely not. I'll wait 8 weeks and see how things are going.

    Actually now that you mention this, if they made it voluntary initially it would allow for a "gradual" reopening of schools which will be easier to handle and monitor.

    The onus will be on the home schoolers to keep up with the class curriculum though.


  • #5233
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    I possibly might if my red meat supply dries up.

    We export 80% of all meat processed here. We'll be grand shutting down a factory here or there for a few weeks.


  • #5234
    the corpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭the corpo


    Mike Ryan on Sarah McInerney just now, acknowledging that kids from 10+ are definitely as virulent as adults, but also being quite sobering about the health effects. Saying we just don't know yet about children and long term effects on their hearts etc.


  • #5235
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,531 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Deisekickboxing wrote: »
    2nd surge in Auz our new surge is only 2 weeks behind them ,schools having to close we need to nip this in n the bud..
    https://www.9news.com.au/national/two-sydney-schools-closed-after-students-test-positive-for-coronavirus-nsw/a903c328-ac35-46a9-be7f-889bffbb6028


    This is a good example of what we do not want to have, since not only were the schools closed but the parents weren't even told that it was closed never mind whether they needed to isolate children or not.

    We need clear principles, e.g. if case arises, the children in pod are all isolated and tested and other parents are advised to closely watch other children for symptoms, and that anyone with symptoms is tested. These should be set out before term starts so everyone knows where they stand. It should not be a case of "we'll figure it out when it happens"?


  • #5236
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    US2 wrote: »
    You'll find yourself in trouble in the law if you don't send your kids to school for 8 weeks.

    Reaper vs law. Who wins?


  • #5237
    Hrududu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Just goes to show - when you get dodgy information on Whatsapp, its not difficult to take a couple of minutes to verify
    Especially when people choose their wording. Saying “My friend got a whatsapp saying...” vs saying “My friend got a notification on their phone...”

    One sound like the usual rumour mongering that’s been going on for months. The other has the air of being official. But both are about the same thing.


  • #5238
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    So you've registered to homeschool?

    Registration. If you wish to try homeschooling in Ireland the first thing to do is register with the National Education Welfare Board (NEWB). This needs to be done when the child turns six, or you remove them from school, whichever applies.


  • #5239
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Hrududu wrote: »
    Especially when people choose their wording. Saying “My friend got a whatsapp saying...” vs saying “My friend got a notification on their phone...”

    One sound like the usual rumour mongering that’s been going on for months. The other has the air of being official. But both are about the same thing.

    Both should be result in a ban from boards.ie


  • #5240
    Mr rebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Mr rebel


    How awful that people are spreading vicious rumours.
    Hotels are struggling enough as it is.


  • #5241
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    So you've registered to homeschool?

    Registration. If you wish to try homeschooling in Ireland the first thing to do is register with the National Education Welfare Board (NEWB). This needs to be done when the child turns six, or you remove them from school, whichever applies.

    Surely a parent who isn't confident sending their children back to school can continue to keep them at home, these are unique times so the past process might not be fully applicable. Obviously they have to go back to school eventually but I wouldn't blame any parent who is apprehensive given how up in the air everything is at the minute.


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  • #5242
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    It'll be very very interesting to see what is done about parents who refuse to send their children back to school. I doubt any of them will be pro-active enough to register as home schoolers, however the legal ramifications for not sending a child to school are wishy washy at best.


  • #5243
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Surely a parent who isn't confident sending their children back to school can continue to keep them at home, these are unique times so the pass process might not be fully applicable. Obviously they have to go back to school eventually but I wouldn't blame any parent who is apprehensive given how up in the air everything is at the minute.

    It's "the plan" to get children back to schools which are making parents less confident.

    And to be honest anyone who has even glanced at "the plan" has a right to be somewhat nervous.

    The usual platitudes of "children need an education" and "children need social interaction" which are extremely valid points does not negate the fact "the plan" is completely unworkable in a large bulk of schools in this country, primarily because of existing over crowding and lack of proper and suitable infrastructure.

    Our schools have the potential to reseed the virus in the community at least on par with pubs if not actually more.

    But the next press conference will be all about pubs and very little about schools, like they have been previously.

    Pure Paddywhackery!


  • #5244
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,583 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Surely a parent who isn't confident sending their children back to school can continue to keep them at home, these are unique times so the past process might not be fully applicable. Obviously they have to go back to school eventually but I wouldn't blame any parent who is apprehensive given how up in the air everything is at the minute.

    It wouldn't be very fair on the teachers and students who are there if they go back in a few months and are away behind the rest of the class, keeping kids back a year should be an option, as it is I think if a child misses more than 20 school days you will find yourself in trouble, maybe social workers etc.


  • #5245
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    No you won't.

    Article 42 of the Constitution of Ireland:

    "1: The State acknowledges that the primary and natural educator of the child is the Family and guarantees to respect the inalienable right and duty of parents to provide, according to their means, for the religious and moral, intellectual, physical and social education of their children.

    2: Parents shall be free to provide this education in their homes or in private schools or in schools recognised or established by the State.

    How does that align with those reports you read about parents getting summons's for their children missing school days etc?

    edit: Seen posts about registering for home schooling.


  • #5246
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    And this is why I'm only dipping in and out now of this thread but not bothering posting anymore.

    Glad to see I'm on your mind, yup I went to the pub over the weekend and your point is ? More ranting no discussion.

    This thread since last week has been far too personal.

    Good luck.

    Edit: After seeing the mod post replying to quoted poster

    Pretty predictable. Its been far too personal for months, but it was okay when one side was making terible comments towards the other. Now the boots on the other foot you dont like it. Im glad the mods agreed about a certain poster and it wasnt ln my head. Anyway yes good luck, fresh start, lets all disagree profoundly but not make personal digs because our argument is rubbish eh?


  • #5247
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    And this is why I'm only dipping in and out now of this thread but not bothering posting anymore.

    Glad to see I'm on your mind, yup I went to the pub over the weekend and your point is ? More ranting no discussion.

    This thread since last week has been far too personal.

    Good luck.

    Edit: After seeing the mod post replying to quoted poster

    Pretty predictable. Its been far too personal for months, but it was okay when one side was making terible comments towards the other. Now the boots on the other foot you dont like it. Im glad the mods agreed about a certain poster and it wasnt ln my head. Anyway yes good luck, fresh start, lets all disagree profoundly but not make personal digs because our argument is rubbish eh?


  • #5248
    the corpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭the corpo


    Schools thread closed or another boards glitch?


  • #5249
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,842 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the corpo wrote: »
    Schools thread closed or another boards glitch?

    Old one reached the limit. New thread started

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058101870/1/#post114213811


  • #5250
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,236 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Update on hospitalisations

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0804/1157226-covid19-coronavirus-ireland/


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  • #5251
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    fr336 wrote: »
    Pretty predictable. Its been far too personal for months, but it was okay when one side was making terible comments towards the other. Now the boots on the other foot you dont like it. Im glad the mods agreed about a certain poster and it wasnt ln my head. Anyway yes good luck, fresh start, lets all disagree profoundly but not make personal digs because our argument is rubbish eh?

    Could you not just let it go after the mod posted? Everyone else has managed to.


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